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Beginners welcome?
Posted by Yimkin on Sunday, March 8, 2009 7:43 PM
Hi all,

With regard to group builds, are complete beginners welcome?

I've only built 2 kits so far (not including childhood), had loads of problems, but am learning. Just don't want any 'that is bl**dy awful' comments, because I know they are! (in comparison to the stuff people post here!).

I'd just like to join in to something that gives me some impetus towards non-achievable perfection I guess, along with a load of handy tips!

Chris

Oh, and 'edit' - is there any mileage in a 'complete beginners' GB?
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Posted by New Hampshire on Sunday, March 8, 2009 7:53 PM

Hey Yimkin,

Can't speak for ALL the group builds, but I think they are all pretty much of the same mind that YES beginners are welcome.  I am currently almost finished my second airplane build (an F4F Wildcat) for the Navy Wing Group Build, and the folks there welcomed me in warmly.  Many skill levels are represented here, but we all have one thing in common...we like having fun building with plastic!!!

Brian

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  • From: back seat of your car with duct tape streched out
Posted by soulcrusher on Sunday, March 8, 2009 8:25 PM

Chris I think  you will find if you join a GB your skills will accelerate at a much faster rate. Every forum  member that I have every participated in a GB with has been great. Some of us even enjoy helping others turn out a better model by teaching less experienced modelers the techniques we use to obtain our results. Just make sure you let everyone know at the start of the GB you are a begginer and are looking for input. I think you will find that you will be overwhelmed by the options you are given my many different builders on how to do any one task. The best part of all if you participate seriously I guarentee you will make many new freinds so jump on it. I am willing to bet you will never regret it amd once you start you will never be able to stop joining GB!

                                                                                              SoulcrusherPirate [oX)]

 

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  • From: Central CA
Posted by Division 6 on Sunday, March 8, 2009 8:31 PM

I'd have to agree with Brian.

I signed up on the forum just to get in on a group build as an incentive just to build a model.

I've been away from models for well over 10+ years.


 

I've had a very warm welcome.

 

Eric... 

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  • From: Bridgeview, Illinois
Posted by mg.mikael on Sunday, March 8, 2009 8:59 PM

Yimkin, I hope you do decide to join a GB. By the way, hope you check out the Lend-Lease GB we'd love to have you over there.Cool [8D]

Here's the link to the official Lend-Lease GB thread....../forums/1/1011459/ShowPost.aspx#1011459

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, March 8, 2009 9:11 PM

Chris- Soulcrusher said it better than I could, and I agree with his comments to the letter.  Pick a GB you are interested in, and sign up!  You will be amazed at how fast your skills improve.

The style of the GB's here are as diverse as the modelers building in them.  My best advice is to pick out a couple you like, and read through some pages to see if it's what you are looking for.  Then, when you find one that fits, sign up!

Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to the forums, and I look forward to seeing you around! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:50 PM

All good advice so far, and I 'll add only one thing. Don't be afraid of negative critism, because you aren't going to get any here, at least at first. That's actually been an issue of discussion, but there just isn't much of it. I remember one where the guy put the wings on upside down, and after a while someone filnally mentioned it, nicely. The negatives start when you get to a point where someone sees something specific that you did that they know a way to do better, so they'll tell you. Or someone gets full of themselves, or tries to pass off pro work as their own. BTW I'm not even there yet after 1/2 dozen or so posted builds. And I've probably increased my skills one major level each time, like first how to do a clean glue job, then how to do a decent paint job, then decals and weathering. Practice makes better...

 

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Posted by Yimkin on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:23 PM
Thanks guys, that's very encouraging!

Did my first varnish job tonight to avoid silvering, and saving for an airbrush and compressor. Kit I'm on now (3rd) was the first I used filler on, and it seemed to go well - now I need to learn about rescribing!

Chris
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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:02 PM

There's the spirit! Save for that airbrush because it's a purchase you only want/ need to make once, or maybe twice. Cheapos are a waste of money, but a good one is indispensable. Read all about it in the airbrush threads,and hang in there till you have enough to get a compressor too. Meanwhile I sprayed with shaker cans for years and still do, often.

Rescribing, well to me it's like learning to use a bottleneck once you've mastered the Telecaster. Which BTW I have neither. I don't, most don't, the good modelers do in the larger scales, but don't let that hang you up.

I'd recommend a first good skill is to learn to put things together straight, without glue showing, all lined up. As you get into older and less known kits, these are great skills because you often have to overcome crud from the manufacturers. It's what will get you out of the "shake and bake" type of kit, which is the more expensive kind, I mean you can't build $ 50 Tamiya Me-109s all your life, right.

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Posted by dostacos on Friday, March 13, 2009 7:39 PM

 Yimkin wrote:
Hi all,

With regard to group builds, are complete beginners welcome?

I've only built 2 kits so far (not including childhood), had loads of problems, but am learning. Just don't want any 'that is bl**dy awful' comments, because I know they are! (in comparison to the stuff people post here!).

I'd just like to join in to something that gives me some impetus towards non-achievable perfection I guess, along with a load of handy tips!

Chris

Oh, and 'edit' - is there any mileage in a 'complete beginners' GB?

I am a little late to this party, but as a modeler who is NOT up the the skill of most of these guys, I would like to point out that their comments are helpful well thought out and given with the intent of making you {or me :)} a better modeler.

they also have an hug amount of info so if you don't know the proper area your kit was used {as an example} they will have the answer.

 You might also wander around in the older threads there are many good tutorials on finishing armor

Dan support your 2nd amendment rights to keep and arm bears!
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Posted by Mobious on Sunday, March 15, 2009 10:19 AM

 Hey Yimkin, I've been in several GB's with some very talented folk who have not only helped with tips, but also with photo's of WIP's and completed builds that inspire. Joining GB's, posting your work, and sharing tips helps us all no matter what the level be it beginner, pro or somewhere in between. Pick a GB that interest you and get started. Be careful GB's can become habbit forming.Wink [;)]

 Mo

 

"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

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Posted by Yimkin on Monday, March 16, 2009 7:08 PM
I'll definitely do that, thanks!

Just finished a horrible airfix mirage, main problem apart from awful kit fit (learnt a lot about filling though!) was my brush painting, which resulted in terrible silvering, mostly due to the semi gloss of one of the colours. Nonetheless, I'm learning, and I'm still proud of what I produced! I just hope I look back on it some day and think 'my god, I was terrible then, but wow, how I have learnt!'

Searching for a suitable GB now, looking for 70's / 80's jets, so any recommendations welcome! Have a couple of harriers sat waiting, plus a major job, a Pucara! Would prefer to join a GB early on so I can get the most from the tips.

Thanks for all the friendly and helpfuul replies!
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