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Weathering GB - 2/1/2011 - 1/31/2012

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  • Member since
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  • From: Smithers, BC, Canada
Posted by ruddratt on Monday, January 10, 2011 7:58 PM

Excellent progress guys!

So, Doogs does armor too!? Surprise Stunning work on the Sherman, and the Emil is off to a fine start too. I'll be watching that one closely.

Dave, that jeep is mindblowing! Looks like I could just hop right in and drive 'er away. Yes

Hutch, very nice work on the 'pit. The 109 offices are amongst my favorites to model - there's a whole lot going on in a very small space, and the subtle differences between variants really keeps us on our toes. Keep up the great work! Yes

 

Made steady progress this past weekend on the 'pit for the (it's called a Pfalz, doogs  Wink ). Should have some pics up within the next few days.

In the mean time, keep those great WIP pics a comin'!

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, January 10, 2011 8:08 PM

Robert92562

If its not to late can i get in on this GB. I'm not sure what I will build but im sure that it will be weathered.

Bob

Won't be too late for another year or so yet! Welcome aboard!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Monday, January 10, 2011 8:12 PM

Dave - the Jeep continues to look more and more amazing with every update! 

ruddratt - I don't do armor, exactly. The Sherman's actually my first armor kit of any kind in something like 17 years. But it's a fantastic diversion! Figured it'd be something relatively easy to tackle before I move on to some of the other armor in my stash and things like indy links...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Monday, January 10, 2011 8:18 PM

Indy links!? You are a brave man, Doogs. Those things scare me more than the 50-odd 1/32 turnbuckles I need to scratchbuild for my bipes!

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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  • From: Springfield, MA
Posted by TigerEP1 on Monday, January 10, 2011 9:04 PM

Aww thanks people, I am humbled by all your praise of possibly the smallest vehicle i have ever built...lol. I am really happy it's coming out as nice as it is and yet there is so much more to do and it has had its harrowing experiences and lost parts..lol

Doogs i went back and had not realized that the pic of the Sherman was yours its looking mighty fine =)

ruddratt looking forward to the pics of your Pfalz and i don;t envy your 1/32 turnbuckles...lol

Pepper thank you , i hope my rust technique works out for ya =D

I think the thing that surprises people the most is that the whole thing has been hand painted, even my friends that come by are like really? lol I'll have more by tomorrow  have a great night!

Thanks,

Dave

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1/35th Tamiya Willi's MB

 

 

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Monday, January 10, 2011 10:21 PM

Ok, after sealing up the Zero and Millputing and such I gave her a base coat of Tamiya Flat Aluminium. My plan is to heavily chip and flake the upper paint work. The photos I've seen seem to suggest the insignia, especially the Sun were well maintained on these birds even though the paint fell off everywhere else.

On the drop tank and the wheel flaps I also used Aluminum base coat and will probably finely sand away some of the upper paint to get back to the metal finish. So far this is the easiest kit I have ever built and my hat goes off to Tamiya.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by TigerEP1 on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:06 AM

Looking great Casper! Tamiya kits really do go together well =)

Ok so small update, glued the seats in painted the "box" added some weathering and added the rear tire.  Still tons more to do but it's coming along =D Sorry for the dust on the bottom of the wheels, i placed on the CD tower and there was unseen dust waiting to pounce...lol





Thanks,

Dave

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1/35th Tamiya Willi's MB

 

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:15 AM

ruddratt

Indy links!? You are a brave man, Doogs. Those things scare me more than the 50-odd 1/32 turnbuckles I need to scratchbuild for my bipes!

It's funny...I built a few tanks as a kid. All Tamiya with the rubber bands. Then I got it in my head that I wanted to build an M113 or something of the sort. Got a kit that wasn't a Tamiya, and it came with all these individual tread links. I gave it three days, but it turned me off indy links from then on.

These days, though, friuls exist! Looking forward to trying my first set...maybe with the BT-7 I got for my birthday.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:27 AM

Dave - man, that Jeep is coming along nicely! I can't believe it's all hand-painted!

Casper - the Zero's looking very nice! I'm curious, have you tried Tamiya's AS-12 bare-metal silver? It's rattlecan only (speaking of which...what's up with Tamiya offering so many rattlecan-only colors lately?), but it looks great and as far as I can tell it goes on super-tough.

I'm planning on using it as a primer for the 109 so I can sand and chip through the paint. Decanted, of course, since I'm pretty terrible when it comes to wielding rattlecans with anything like proficiency...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:31 AM

A bit more progress on the 109's pit last night...

I'm reaching a point where I think I need to pick up a Detail and Scale or something...the Eduard pit is both really well detailed and really spartan at the same time, so I need some ideas for adding detail.

Also, not for the GB but weathering-related, I've been adding successive raw umber filters to the P-47 I'm building for the 8th AAF GB:

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by TigerEP1 on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:05 PM

Doogs,

The pit and the P-47 are looking fantastic, tho i do agree on the PIT it needs more oomph! I am sure whatever you do to it will make it look even better.

Thanks for the comp on the jeep, its moving along so much faster than i expected..lol Ill have more pics up today :)

Dave

On the bench:

1/35th Tamiya Willi's MB

 

 

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:48 PM

DoogsATX

Casper - the Zero's looking very nice! I'm curious, have you tried Tamiya's AS-12 bare-metal silver?

Hey Doogs, no I'm not a fan of the rattlecans. I find they too easily give that orange peel effect on the surface. I've just been airbrushing Tamiya XF-16 Flat Aluminium thinned about 20% and this seems to work very nicely.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:49 PM

TigerEP1

Doogs,

The pit and the P-47 are looking fantastic, tho i do agree on the PIT it needs more oomph! I am sure whatever you do to it will make it look even better.

Thanks for the comp on the jeep, its moving along so much faster than i expected..lol Ill have more pics up today :)

Dave

yeah the Eduard instructions basically just say "paint everything RLM 02", which I didn't think could be right.

Picked up a 109E reference book at the LHS today...already got ideas. The big wheel thing (technical term) seems like it was actually painted black. The oxygen tank housing was metallic. Several little bits to add here and there to liven things up.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:53 PM

Doogs I'm also sure with some sliver drybrushing and a dirty wash your pit will look outstanding. It's whetting my appetite to start my Eduard Bf-109 but I have a Zero to finish and then do a MIrage 2000C for the NMF II GB.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:57 PM

Damn. I have got a book from the Osprey masterclass on modelling German fighters. It lists all the colours for various items around cockpits. But it is back in camp and i won't be back there till next Wed. If you haven't done the pit by then, i will see what it says.

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by TigerEP1 on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:59 PM

Casper,

the tamiya rattle cans are far from yor ordinary can , they spray so smooth its silly.

Doogs,

Can you first explain the RLM thing, i have no idea what it is..lol

Second, looking forward to the 109E build. I have one here I started on for a buddy but i'll tell you me + anything with wings usually ends in a mess..lol There are just soooo many seams (i have the hasagawa kit and the fitment is abysmal to say the least) plus i literally no almost nothing about planes..lol

Anywho keep up the good work on the Messy I am sure it will turn out awesome =D

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1/35th Tamiya Willi's MB

 

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:05 PM

Casper the Chihuahua

 

 DoogsATX:

 

Casper - the Zero's looking very nice! I'm curious, have you tried Tamiya's AS-12 bare-metal silver?

 

 

Hey Doogs, no I'm not a fan of the rattlecans. I find they too easily give that orange peel effect on the surface. I've just been airbrushing Tamiya XF-16 Flat Aluminium thinned about 20% and this seems to work very nicely.

Cheers

I'm not either...but I was so impressed with the finish, even with my shoddy spraying, that I'm going to try decanting it and spraying it through the Iwata. The finish is literally so tough that I scraped a fingernail across it with a good degree of force and didn't leave a mark.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:12 PM

TigerEP1

Doogs,

Can you first explain the RLM thing, i have no idea what it is..lol

Basically, RLM is the German equivalent of FS numbers (or the ANA codes that preceded FS). RLM 02 is a shade of gray that was used in German aircraft much the way interior green was used in US planes. It actually strikes me as more of a brown-gray, but whatever.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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  • From: Hobart, Australia
Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:21 PM

I've seen a couple of builds of Bf-109's that use RLM66 or german grey inside the cockpit. I think the later aircraft such as the ME262 and later 109's may have used this instead of RLM02. I think of RLM02 as being slightly a green-grey myself Smile

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:23 PM

RLM stands for Reichsluftfahrt Ministerium, or State Ministry for Aviation. they desiganted what colours would be used, how markings would be applied, what aircraft were needed, whcih designes to operate and so on. As far as the colours go, its as Doogs descrided it.

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:29 PM

RLM 02 was used in cockpits in the early stages of the war. After that it was mostly used on wheel bays and other areas not seen when in flight. Cockpits were mostly RLM 66.

This should help.

http://www.swannysmodels.com/Painting.html

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by hutchdh on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:24 PM

DoogsATX

 

hutch - It's funny, I started painting the cockpit and other bits of the E-7 with RLM 02 the other night, and thought "this doesn't look right at all". Guess I'm so used to seeing the darker grey of the later war aircraft. The G-10 is looking good so far, but I have you down for a G-6 on the roster page. Do I need to correct?

 

Doogs, it is a G-6 vice a 10...typo!!!!

Hutch

 On the Bench: 1:48 HobbyBoss Ta152-C; 1:48 & 1:72 Hasegawa F-104G NATO Bavaria

In queue: 1:48 Academy F-4B & a TBD Eric Hartmann bird

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:37 PM

DoogsATX

Also, to make this official so everyone can stop asking - YOU ARE FREE TO START YOUR BUILDS AND POST WIP PICS. I'm going to keep Feb. 1 as the official start date since, but there's nothing wrong with a little preseason fun! 

I should finally have some E-7 cockpit pics to post after tonight, too!

Sorry to ask again Doogs, but does this mean we can show weathering WIP or you still want that to wait for Feb 1 even though we can show build WIP?

Hope this question is not too dumb and makes sense! Tongue Tied

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by TigerEP1 on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:25 PM

I hope we can...lol

So another update, i am joined today by Mr. Steering Wheel, Mr. Side Mirror and, Mrs. Taillights Wink

Got a bit more down on the weathering front, still a ways to go on this but i am happy how its coming along.








Tank parts have not arrived yet, so this is getting all my attention.

Comments, questions, tips always welcome Smile

Thanks,

Dave

On the bench:

1/35th Tamiya Willi's MB

 

 

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:24 PM

Spayed the upper surface of the plane, varied slightly different shades of the Dark Green adding little bits of white, randomly applied these different shades to try and get variation and fading effect in different areas. Also as the paint was drying started to chip it away in places.

I want so show a lot of wear and tear on this bird.

Now to let the paint dry, coat of Future tomorrow in prep for the decals.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:16 AM

Alright, after the Future dried it started to look better. Decaling done, I think I've scratched away and dry brushed enough chipped paint effect. Once the decals are fully dry tomorrow I will try to work some of the paint chip into some of the decals. Another seal and then the really dirty wash and exhaust stains etc.

BTW there were some long thin yellow decals that are meant to adhere around the gun ports but I tried one and the stupid thing ripped and the bit that didn't looked really bad around the contours of the wing. I'll mask that section off and airbrush on yellow and I think it will look much better.

Cheers

On the bench: A-4F 1/32 Hasegawa

Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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Posted by TigerEP1 on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 2:33 PM

Looking great Casper!

So i added another detail today and then had a minor mishap with the angle iron on the front  meaning i re snapped it in half =( 2 times i put it back on i think i finally got it where i want!

You can see it here, still needs to cleaned up ...again

Added valve stems to the wheels, and then noticed a few mold lines i missed :(

 

Anywho more to come, still gotta finish the painting of the valve stems, more detailing and i still need to hit it with a dull coat, plus i think i am gonna redo my windshield.

 

 

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1/35th Tamiya Willi's MB

 

 

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Posted by oddmanrush on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 2:46 PM

Hey Doogs, I hadn't thought to ask this but I just wanted to make sure...The Fw 190 I'm planning on building is going to be modeled as a wreck that has been sitting on a forest floor for a very long time. So obviously, extreme weathering techniques would be called for...however, I wasn't sure if your build here called for us to model subjects that were still 'functional' but had just seen lots of wear and tear. Judging by the Badge, I'd say mine would fit in but I just wanted to make sure.

Jon

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Posted by TigerEP1 on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:01 PM

Pretty sure even destroyed vehicles are weathered =)

FW 190 in the woods, did you get that idea from this:

 

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:12 PM

Yes, it doesn't have to be functional.

Just has to have had the elements take their toll.

So I guess you could even build Lindsay Lohan if you were up to it...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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