AS this one is now officially closed, I have to ask everyone, who wasn't able to complete his/her project in this round, to move up to part 5.

Everyone else interested is of course also very welcome!

Here's a link to it: cs.finescale.com/.../154399.aspx

I wish all of you who take part in part 5 much fun!

Your new host, Clemens

I wasn't participating in parts 1-4, but I want to thank you as well for setting this awesome GB up, Randy! And thank you very much for being my co-host in the 5th round of this!

Just dropping by to thank you Vetteman!. It has been four years of amazing fun and good times. This is without a shadow of a doubt one of the most succesful Group builds FSM has ever seen. You have been an awesome host!

Richard

I think the time had come to close this build. Guys if you would check the front page to make sure I havent missed any completed builds and the build information is right it would be a huge help.

GT68 Like em both I especially like the first one the shading really makes is stand out. Love the base idea on the second one too. 

Seen a few pp, not impressed with alclads own black gloss basecoat, me included. I now use humbrol gloss black enamel instead under the alclad highshine finishes and am much happier with it.

Ive tried C1 metaliser powder and find it only seems to work on enamel paint properly too

tried clearcoat to seal it and it just ended up looking like shiny grey paint instead of metal :-(

Believe me, you don't want to see my first NMF bird (a Thunderbol). The pantjob is not perfect at all and it was my first plane model ever, so the model itself aint that good either...

Clemens

Thanks,

Those were my 1st and 2nd NMF models in a real long time (20+ years).

That are some really awsome looking planes you got there, 68!

Thanks for the help,

A while back I used the MM n0n-buff aluminum on the one below.  It has a base coat of gull gray with different panels being painted Testors rubber and a few a mix of the two.  I lucked out on it.

This one has a straight black lacquer base coat with the same top coat of MM.

Kermit: I can only tell you about Alclad paints: If you spray a flat black base coat (I used the Alclad primer) and polish it a little bit with a soft cloth, you get a very dull look. I tried to paint my Thunderbolt (first plane mdel ever) this way and I think it turned out pretty nice. I used Alclad's Aluminum paint and painted some panels in other colors (Airframe Aluminum, Chrome, Dark Aluminum). There is nothing "shiny-shiny" about it, but it looks not that bad on a Thunderbolt.

Clemens

Kermit as I recall someone tried using flat black and it didnt work as planned. Someone else tried using flat black and shooting future over it to get a smoother finish as well and that didnt work very well either.

I really like the Talon paints too. Hope someone buys the line and restarts selling it again.

I am so glad i still got a full bottle of the Talon paint..... Absolutely love the stuff and it is a shame it is no longer available.

I am not sure but i wonder if you would have a flatter NMF if you used flat black as basecoat as opposed to gloss black...

GT68 I went on a hunting mission for ya but didnt find the test spoons I told you about, I did however find a couple pages that might help you from round II. Heres a link to round II.

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/29/t/127602.aspx

On page 14 about half way down Ibuild148 did a test panel with a few primer colors under an NMF finish and on page 3 Jmart offers a bunch of sites doing how to's for NMF finishes. Hope they help you out.

SchattenSpartan  the page is up so yeah I would call it offical

I'd be happy to have you in the new round as well, Randy. This series was your idea anyway...

Well, looks like me being the new host is now officially approved

Cheers, Clemens

Thanks guys for your kind words and understanding.

68GT good progress on the F-105 I too like the look of MM metal finishes but find them way delicate for masking and such. I have seen very good results with Tamiya flat aluminum paint as well and it doesnt seem to lift as easily. as the metalizers do. A suggestion might be a base color of metalizers then seal it with future as some of the panels look shiny then use a low tack mask and paint some of the panels with the Tamiya paint for the flat looking panels. I have also seen a few guys use  black and darker shades of gray paints under metalizers to create differant shades of aluminum. Near the beginning of this group someone did a bunch of test shots using plastic spoons with black and gray base coats and differant paints that might help you.

SchattenSpartan thanks for carring on the group for round V. If there is anything I can do to help you just let me know. Oh and if I may I will be entering my unfinished B-29 if you dont mind. Hopefully I can get it finished this time.

As I mentioned already, I am the new host for round 5!

Here is the link to it: cs.finescale.com/.../154399.aspx

It would be nice, if some of you guys in here would join the next round as well!

Oh, before I forget about it: Everyone who hasn't finished his project for this one, please move to the 5th round after July 2nd!

Clemens

Thank you for your offer, Gamera! Now I have two guys I can talk to about GB problems. (Bish is the other one) YAY!

Cheers, Clemens

68GT: Polyscale is out of production and will probably be hard to find. Most railroad shops I've been in carry Floquil products, if you can't find one near you I'm not sure where else to look other than on-line.

I like the Metalizer, works well as long as you don't try to mask over it. Frankly I use Alclad for pretty much all metallic surfaces these days.

Clemens: Good luck with NM GB V - I'd like to support but I'm swamped by stuff now and after building three P-47s and a P-51 need a little break from NM subjects! I was pretty new to the whole GB thing too when I started my two GBs so if you need any advice give me a yell.

Thanks, the mold is showing its age with a lot of flash but the fit isn't all that bad.

I cant help you out on this at all. Sorry.

Nice looking plane btw.

Clemens

I have the MM Metalizer non-buffing aluminum that is close to what I'm looking for but some people suggested Floquil old silver or Polyscale flat aluminum is what I might want.  I cant find any of those locally..

If you can't devide on the paint yet, you should continue in the next round. I don't think you will finish your model before June 2nd. It's only one week untill then. Just a little hint: Alclad paints are a bit tricky to use, but look awesome!

Clemens

I haven't progressed any further since I'm trying to decide what paint to use so should I just continue in Round 5?

It will be exactly the same rules as for this round, so yes, every project started in round 4 can be entered in round 5 as well!

I'll open the new thread tomorrow evening (Austrian time, should be early afternoon in the states), so stay tuned!

I'll throw my 1/32 Mustang (the awesome Tamiya kit) in there as well! I just have to decide if I should build "glengary Guy" or "Feeble Eagle"...

Cheers, Clemens

Randy, sorry to hear about your troubles, it must be so difficult especially when its family. I am sure you have the best wishes from al here and hopes that things can get sorted soon. And you haven't let anyone down. You have been a valued member for a long time now, and when life throws these things at you, other things have to be put to one side.

Clemens, your certainly diving in the deep end there hosting 2 GB's already. I had to miss out on this round, but I will try my best to come in on round V. Would I be right is thinking that any unfinished builds from Round IV can be carried over to round V.

Hi guys!

I'm sorry to hear that, Randy I hope things change to the better in the future...

I think I could help you guys out on this one! I am already hosting the Carrier GB, BUT! I can host part V of this one as well! It would be an honor for me to do so!

I need a nice mellow place for my 1/32 Thunderbolt anyway (with lots of AM stuff) and it looks like I found one!

My only problem: This GB will end on June 1st and there is no way I can get this big bird even 50% finished untill then

Here is the list of stuff I'd be using:

• Hasegawa P-47D
• Quickboost engine
• Aires wheel bays
• Eduard Big Ed
• Master barrels
• Barracuda wheels
• Kits-world Decals "Eight Nifties"

In short: I could host part 5 and if you guys don't want that, I am begging you for an extention!

Please answer me asap.

Cheers, Clemens 

Clemens

Thanks, I didn't click the notice box and misplace this one.  I have made some good progress so far and hope to put a base coat down soon.  What do you think my best option is to get this look?  Testors silver?

A couple of progress shots.

Mighty kind of you sir....Thanx :-)

Theuns