1945 GB

Moff

At least WWII movies have the correct vehicular accoutrements these days...even if nothing else is correct about them! 

 

Well, i think in most cases, they are able to dress up other vehicles to actually look like the real thing, especially German armour. Off the top of my head, Fury is the only movie that has used a genuine German tank.

At least WWII movies have the correct vehicular accoutrements these days...even if nothing else is correct about them! 

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Moff wrote the following post 2 hours ago:

 

stikpusher

It's too bad that the real ones did not last in flying condition long enough for movie use in "The Longest Day" in 1962 instead of the Bf-108s or whatever they used for the Priller scene.

 

 

 

 

It's not as bad as that 1970 Patton movie, where they substituted different-colored M47s for every single tank in the movie. Well, actually, I think they used Walker Bulldogs as substitutes for light tanks too.

 

I just watched Battle of the Bulge the other day and started wondering what they used for the King Tiger tanks. They were 1951 Chrysler M47's  And I noticed the Germans using American half tracks in this movie as well The Battle of Britain. sheesh

 

The German's seem to have had an abundance of those M3 halftracks, its a wounder the Allies had any themselves.

At least in a Bridge to Far the German tanks were actually German, and Big cats at that.

stikpusher

Patton had M47s, M48, and M41s at various times in the movie. With the M41s playing Shermans, and the M47s and M48s playing Panzers. As well as various post war 105mm SPs (not sure what they were, but they were NOT M7s) But in all respect to the film makers of the time, in Western Europe where those movies were made, (Spain mostly) there were not many other AFV types to choose from. It would not be until later on that folks started restoring actual WWII vehicles to running condition for use on film or TV. The only other choice was in Yugoslavia where film makers could get T-34s and immediate post WWII stuff like you saw in Kelly's Heroes.

 

Patton had M47s, M48, and M41s at various times in the movie. With the M41s playing Shermans, and the M47s and M48s playing Panzers. As well as various post war 105mm SPs (not sure what they were, but they were NOT M7s) But in all respect to the film makers of the time, in Western Europe where those movies were made, (Spain mostly) there were not many other AFV types to choose from. It would not be until later on that folks started restoring actual WWII vehicles to running condition for use on film or TV. The only other choice was in Yugoslavia where film makers could get T-34s and immediate post WWII stuff like you saw in Kelly's Heroes.

Lol. I got to the Battle of Kasserine Pass in Patton, and then I gave up trying to watch it. Other people thought I was being anal retentive, but then, they don't build scale models.

Moff wrote the following post 2 hours ago:

stikpusher

It's too bad that the real ones did not last in flying condition long enough for movie use in "The Longest Day" in 1962 instead of the Bf-108s or whatever they used for the Priller scene.

 

Thnaks for doing the front page Stik. And ye, it is a real shame they could not use real 190's in that scene. And i think your right, i am sure they were 108's in the movie.

Josiah, those are some choppy seas indeed! Nice look there. 

Ken, those cork cobblestones really nail the look. It may be tedious work, but that really looks sharp. 

Tax, your 190 has been added to the finished officla roster. Very nice work sir. I'm not used to seeing a 190 in French colors. It's too bad that the real ones did not last in flying condition long enough for movie use in "The Longest Day" in 1962 instead of the Bf-108s or whatever they used for the Priller scene.

Ken, thats a lot of work still to do there, but i think you have a nice effect, look forward to see how it looks painted.

Josiah, i do like the choppy look you have there, nice effect.

Okay, here are some cobblestones layed down. Also some greenery has been added Hope you all like it These cobbles are about 3 houirs work

Nice work on the water, Josiah.  You captured the choppy effect very well.  Water-making is something I need to spend some time on.  Thanks for the information you've provided.  I've only done some messing around with aluminum foil water.

Josiah , good job on the water and I think you've captured the choppy look, it definitely isn't calm.  As for the shade of blue, if you google images of ocean seascapes, that colour does happen.

regards,

Jack

Joe Thanks, I know it will be tedious. But cutting them down to this I think is worse. All I have to do know is glue them down and hope I have enough cut LOL

Josiah, your MO looks great, I think the water/waves/wake looks good

Moff- I'm sorry I missed your question earlier, the article is from Scale Modeling Quarterly, Fall 2015 issue (the one with an AH-1Z on the cover).

Here is how it turned out....first I painted the lentils once they dried...the blue here is a lot "brighter" than how it dried. Unfortunately I did not take a picture of the color when it dried, but it was a nice dark blue, I liked it.

Next I applied the first coat of Acrylic gel medium. Now I tried looking at pictures of the Mo underway, there isn't that many, at least not a whole lot I could find, but I did find one in relatively calm waters so I tried to make the waves like that but more intense. Anyways, sure enough it dried pretty transparent and I could see that some of the lentils were unpainted in some spots so put on a second coat. On the second coat I put some of the blue in the medium with some white (too much so) and then put it on, I wanted to add some "depth" to the water. I only have a picture of the first coat going on, so here is that one.

Once the second coat dried, I could tell that I added too much white, the blue is very bright, probably to much so. Here is the second coat right after I brushed it on/before it dried.

I tried dry brushing the top of the waves white and painting the wake of the ship next to it white to cover up the unpainted gel medium. The article I referenced had the ship at rest in calmer sea. Because this was a full hull I wanted to make the waves a little rougher and make it seem like it was moving to help get the waterline more where it should be. I'm pretty sure it's still a "low" waterline compared to what it should be but I think it is ok. Still not sure about the final product color wise. I think the pictures look ok, in person is kinda meh. I like the texture of the sea, that part turned out well IMO, but I'm not much of a painter/blender (hence why I'm not great at figures) so it'll take a lot more practice to make seascapes as well as a lot of you on here. Here is the final product as it stands now, I'm going to need to paint the pine base since I got a little sloppy.

Oh Man Ken, I sure hope that all your tedious work pays off. It looks like it will be awesome to me.

Thanks guys, I seen the cork cobblestones on You Tube. So I'm interested to see how they turn out too. I think i have the hardest part done already. cutting each individual stone out. I should be able to get on it tonight or tomorrow.

Good to see you back at it Ken, be interested to see how this cork works out.

Hi everyone, My apologies for my absence. I've had the flu/cold. I couldn't seem to shake it off. Well I'm feeling somewhat human now. I should be getting back to the swing of things tomorrow or the next day

I have a lot cobblestones cut from the cork

I wounder what the problem is with masking Alclad. What coat did you apply underneath it.

Edit, cancel that, just gone back and read it. Well, if Alclads own primer won't hold it, not sure what to use.

Thank You Bish, Check and Josiah.

Copy that, Bish, on the masking. I did a small test on an obscure area with Tamiya tape and the Aclad came right off. It appears that I will have to apply a clear coat and then paint over that. Namely the OD anti glare panel forward and back and the blue ID strip on the tail.

Look forward to seeing that Mo. As with Joes build, if you have not finished by the end of the month when i do the round up, i can add yours once you are done.

Somehow I missed your FW last week, Tony. You produced a very appealing plane. Nice work!

Joe: remarkable job on the NMF! Very smooth and realistic!

Nice to see the paint on Joe. I have had mixed results masking alclad, so good luck with that bit.

I'll hang on until the end of the month before i do the round up anyway, thn if you are not finihsed by then, i can just add yours once its done.

Bish, I appreciate the grace period in order to finish my P-47. I'm afraid that I've got at least a month or more's worth of work to do. It is alright with me if you do not wait on me and go ahead and close out the GB.

With that said, I had a monumental moment. I managed to get the Aclad on without mishap. Hallalujah!! What a relief to get this far.

My next step will be to mask of some panels and spray them with Duraluminum. Although I'm a bit nervous about trying that.