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Russian Armor Group Build November 2017 - November 2018

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Posted by Kien on Tuesday, April 10, 2018 10:27 PM

DasBeav: I am looking forward to seeing that T35, I’ve never seen a model of one before. 

I am about ready to paint the IS2 I have been working on, what tamiya color would you all recommend for the Russian green on the is2? I stopped working on the is2 for awhile since my last post a month ago or longer, but I have just started again this past week and have finished the building. I will try to get some pictures up soon. 

Kien 

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Posted by ManCityFan on Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:41 AM

Kien

DasBeav: I am looking forward to seeing that T35, I’ve never seen a model of one before. 

I am about ready to paint the IS2 I have been working on, what tamiya color would you all recommend for the Russian green on the is2? I stopped working on the is2 for awhile since my last post a month ago or longer, but I have just started again this past week and have finished the building. I will try to get some pictures up soon. 

Kien 

 

Hey Kien, I asked this very question in a different GB when doing a T-34.  The responses were that XF-58 Olive Green was probably the closest, although you could also go with XF-61 Dark Green.  I don't think the base color for Russian tanks changed much during the time between when the T-34 and the IS2 rolled out. 

I actually ended up going with Mission Models paints for the build to try something new, and was pretty pleased.

Dwayne or Dman or just D.  All comments are welcome on my builds. 

 

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Posted by Kien on Wednesday, April 11, 2018 1:30 PM

Thanks for mentioning mission models. Now that I remember, I think I may have a mission models Russian green which I ordered awhile back when I got an assortment of mm paints. Otherwise, I may just get the olive green tamiya. 

Which mm paint did you use? the 4bo or faded Russian green ones? 

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Posted by ManCityFan on Wednesday, April 11, 2018 4:54 PM

T-34 with Russian Dark Olive.  Obviously, this tank has been weathered.

 IMG_0686 by Dwayne Munk, on Flickr

KV-1 with Faded Russian Dark Olive with no weathering:

 IMG_0750 by Dwayne Munk, on Flickr

I think both colors are spot on, and I really like the paint.  Follow their recommendations for thinner and poly additive, and I think you will be pleased.

Dwayne or Dman or just D.  All comments are welcome on my builds. 

 

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Posted by taxtp on Thursday, April 12, 2018 8:56 PM

They both look excellent Dwayne.

Cheers

Tony

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, April 13, 2018 11:30 AM

Dwayne: Sharp work, and the T-34 ain't too shabby either. Yes

 

I've been told that the Soviets didn't have a great degree of quality control on the paint and almost any dark green would be suitable. Nevertheless; I really like what Dwayne used here.  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by DasBeav on Friday, April 13, 2018 2:21 PM

I finished the ICM T-35 last night and it turned out okay. Not the greatest kit in the world but I got it for $15 and have always wanted to build this tank. Just has a certain "Je ne sais quoi". It was not the easiest build in the world with its faults and my numerous self-inflicted mistakes. "Endeavor to Persevere" Lone Watie said. I wish I built dios because this would be the perfect tank for that. Still might do some more weathering and scratchbuild a new ladder which I over "battledamaged". Might also add a Cyrillic profanity on the side, which I don't think will get past the FSM censors, for realism. And yes that is a MG34 with a Lewis gun drum magazine. MGs that came with kit were not good.

The paint I used was VJ Model Air Russian Green 4BO.

Overall, a fun build of a big, ugly tank.

Thanks for letting me in this GB, D-man. Finally, gave me an excuse to do this kit. Not afraid of track links anymore.  

 Sooner Born...Buckeye Bred.

 

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Posted by DasBeav on Friday, April 13, 2018 2:23 PM

 Sooner Born...Buckeye Bred.

 

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Posted by DasBeav on Friday, April 13, 2018 2:24 PM

 Sooner Born...Buckeye Bred.

 

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Posted by DasBeav on Friday, April 13, 2018 2:27 PM

Sorry the pics are not the greatest, I must work on lighting!Smile

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Posted by Griffin25 on Friday, April 13, 2018 2:44 PM

That looks awesome man! Great color shading and details. It would look great in a dio, although it would take up a bit of room.    It's a land ship!

 

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Posted by ManCityFan on Friday, April 13, 2018 3:07 PM

Hey DasBeav, the first page of the GB has been updated.

That is an excellent job on a difficult kit.  Glad someone made that tank!  Colors look great, and the tracks came out looking fantastic!

Thanks for being part of the GB. 

Keep a look out this November for another armor GB.  Not sure if it will be German or British yet.

Doing decals on the Wildcat, so I will be back at the KV-1 soon....I swear! 

Dwayne or Dman or just D.  All comments are welcome on my builds. 

 

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Posted by DasBeav on Saturday, April 14, 2018 10:12 AM

Thanks for the nice comments Griff and D-man.

The pics hide many of my mistakes. If I told you how I many things I screwed up you would laugh.

I definitely will check back in November. Taking the Spring/summer off from GBing.

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Posted by bufflehead on Saturday, April 14, 2018 12:21 PM

DasBeav, the T-35 came out great!  You created a beauty despite all the kit and self inflicted problems (TBH I don't see anything)!  Love the color you used.  One thing I noticed is that the secondary turrets on the T-35 are basically the same as the turret on the T-26 (minus the rear overhang).  The ICM turrets look more detailed than the turret on my Zvezda T-26 kit.....not bad for a $15 kit!

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, April 14, 2018 1:23 PM

DasBeav: Looks perfect to me!!! I wouldn't call her a beautiful tank but that's a beautiful model!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Kien on Saturday, April 14, 2018 10:19 PM

I have just finished priming the model with a gloss black base. It's ready for painting now, I will be using the XF-58 olive green which seems to be a good shade. Then will ad the white stripes on the turret for the berlin IS2 markings. 

Kien

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Posted by Griffin25 on Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:16 AM

Kien that is coming along nicely. What is the purpose of priming in gloss black? I've seen it for planes and aluminum finishes but not armor. I could learn something. 

 

Griffin

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Posted by route62 on Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:21 PM

Almost done on this T-34.  I decided to go for winter war weary weathering.  Ordered some better tracks since the kit tracks were not worth using.  Once I get the tracks installed, some mud and dirt on the lower hull and pigment powders to finish it up.

 

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Posted by Griffin25 on Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:52 PM

Holy smokes that looks great! However you did the white wash technique, if came out aces. You definitely have to put aftermarket tracks on that beauty!

 

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Posted by route62 on Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:15 PM

The winter camo was done using the hair spray technique, cheap dollar store hair spray with tamiya acrylic white on top.  Sealed it and went to town using several techniques both with oil and enamel paints to create all the weathering. 

I am a big advocate about using common art supplies for weathering.  I did not use any name brand weathering products from Mig or the like.  All the same effects can be acomplished with stuff found at arts/craft stores for a fraction of price and a ton more product.

Here is a little photo time line of the progress:

Assembly

Paint

Winter Camo

Weathering

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Posted by ManCityFan on Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:19 PM

Hey Kien, that IS2 is coming along well.  Looking forward to the base coat.

Route, that white wash came out fantastic!!  Really nice job there.

 

Dwayne or Dman or just D.  All comments are welcome on my builds. 

 

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Posted by Kien on Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:24 PM

Griffin25

Kien that is coming along nicely. What is the purpose of priming in gloss black? I've seen it for planes and aluminum finishes but not armor. I could learn something. 

 

Well I usually use a regular primer, but I don't really like the vallejo primer I have. So instead I just used an Alclad gloss black primer, which is the only one I have right now. I will probably buy a proper primer, most likely the Mr. Surfacer 1500 grey or black. 

Kien 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 16, 2018 11:40 AM

Kien: Looks good! She looks very sinister in all black.

Route62: Great job, love the whitewash! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Sailing_Dutchman on Saturday, April 21, 2018 7:47 PM

I have not been able to post for the past few weeks as I have been busy switching from postimage to flickr. As that is now about finished I can now post again, so here is an update on what I have been doing:

I replaced the supplied gun bearing with one I 3D printed:

The finished build:

After that I primed with Tamiya Liquid Surface Primer G cut 50:50 with Tamiya Laquer Thinner:

 

 

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Posted by Griffin25 on Saturday, April 21, 2018 10:59 PM

That is a great looking build Dutch. 3d printed parts are out of my realm but that is cool! 

 

Griffin

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Posted by ManCityFan on Sunday, April 22, 2018 2:49 PM

Hey Dutch, that SU is looking great.  Excellent construction work.  I am a little jealous of the 3d printer.....maybe, some day.  Looking forward to seeing paint on that kit.  Really nice work there.

Dwayne or Dman or just D.  All comments are welcome on my builds. 

 

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Posted by Sailing_Dutchman on Sunday, April 22, 2018 3:18 PM
I don't have a printer myself, but our library has one that prints on commission, so I use that.

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Posted by bufflehead on Sunday, April 22, 2018 3:24 PM

Been busy and missed some of the great work here!

Kien - never saw a gloss black primer before, but the JS-2 is looking good!  What a beast that tank is!

route62 - sweet winter camo job on the Alanger T-34!!  Its going to look fantastic when done!  BTW,  I love your salad tong model holder for painting!!

Dutch - all right!  Great work on the SU-85!  3D printing?  That's a whole new realm of model building!  Would have been handy for all the parts I've lost/destroyed over the years!

I was rear-ended in a car accident a couple of weeks ago and bench time was very limited due to strained back muscles, but its much better now and I've been able to finally complete assembly of all three models for this GB and primer them:

First, I found this awesome Mr. Hobby primer at the Ace Hardware in downtown Berkeley (yep, not far from famed UC Berkeley).  I normally use Mr. Surfacer 1200 which is the finest primer I've ever used, but this 1500 is crazy fine!  Cut with Mr. Hobby Color Thinner it layed down the smoothest, finest, tightest coat of primer I've seen.  It almost looks like bare plastic, except for the matte finish.

I used this primer on the Tamiya JS-3, but primered the tracks with a mix of Tamiya Acrylic Nato Black and Red Brown.  I don't like using lacquer or enamel based paints on workable tracks with tiny plastic pins...sometimes the paint is too "hot" and can weaken the pins causing them to break.  Never had this problem with acrylic paint.

Same deal with the Tamiya T-62:

Oh, I also found this at that Ace Hardware and couldn't resist:

Now, I have to say that if you ever need the most detailed aftermarket Soviet DShK 12.7MM Mg then get this little kit!  But if you're not into tiny, finicky, multi-part assemblies, then skip it!!  Here's the assembled/primered mg compared with the kit MG:

Can you believe that this little MG has 27 individual parts??  Some of them are very tiny PE parts that are almost impossible not to bend out of shape or accidentally fling them into oblivion.  One of the PE parts just broke in half and I had to scratchbuild a replacement (which turned out MUCH sturdier than the PE part!).  The glued attachment points of many of the parts are quite miniscule which makes the whole assembly VERY fragile!

Gamera, apparently this is the exact same MG assembly in your MiniArt T-44 kit...I trust your eyesight and patience are better than mine!!

Finally, the Zvezda T-26.  I decided to add the turret antenna and instead of a gray primer, this one is primered with Tamiya Nato Black thinned with their lacquer thinner.  I am going to use the "black & white" method with this paint job and see how it compares with my usual method.

Let the base coloring begin!

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Posted by Kien on Sunday, April 22, 2018 5:53 PM

I have some more progress on the IS-2. Used tamiya olive green as the base color and then white with little buff for the turret stripes. 

I also have some value gear stowage but wasn’t sure whether to add it or not, I don’t really see many Russian tanks with stowage. I was thinking of adding a tarp or two, maybe a box, and the little potato crates. What would you all do? 

The model is ready for weathering now. 

Kien 

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Posted by Kien on Sunday, April 22, 2018 5:58 PM

Bufflehead, 

The gloss black primer is actually the exact same primer you used, but in gloss black. I like grey though, and will probably buy the same you have. Is using the gunze leveling thinner better than using any other lacquer thinner? 

Kien 

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