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75th Anniversary of 1944 Group Build (World at War)

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, September 16, 2019 4:51 PM

I've added your Mustang to the build roster, 68GT.  It fits right in.  Very colorful aircraft.

  

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, September 16, 2019 4:46 PM

Quite a kit, Bish.  It's a lot more involved and complicated than the old '60's era kit of the Condor.  It's a good looking interior.  Looks like it's moving along really well.

  

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, September 16, 2019 4:43 PM

Nice going, Eric.  That NMF does look more varied than a lot I've seen.  It'll make for an eye catching presentation.

  

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, September 16, 2019 4:41 PM

Looking good, Scott.  I haven't built a full hull version of anything yet.  It's good to see how it's done.

  

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, September 16, 2019 4:39 PM

Nice looking vehicle, AA.  I'll fix up the front page build roster.  It'll be an interesting build to watch developing.

  

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Monday, September 16, 2019 4:37 PM

First WIP pic of the Greyhound, assembling the undercarriage:

 

 

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Posted by EBergerud on Sunday, September 15, 2019 7:46 PM
Looking good Bish. I think the Condor is on my "to do" list - but I'm not sure how long that should be. (It sure includes the spanking new Tamiya 1/48 P-38G - the best possible addition to the aircraft model market. Be in the US for Xmas.) It was an important plane (being used against the Finns? Did the LW attack the Finns after their pact with Stalin in late 44?) in the Battle of the Atlantic. Some wise heads have speculated that the Germans should have figured out that the Battle of Britain was not going work (that uses a lot of hindsight - nobody knew how hard it was to knock out air bases - I wrote about the subject at great length concerning our campaign against Rabaul - one base, not a country.). Anyway, in the summer of 1940 they could have used their bombers against English shipping - Condors alone did serious damage before 1942. Might have been right.

 

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Posted by 68GT on Sunday, September 15, 2019 12:41 PM

I have a Revell P-51D (1/48) that should fit in.  Flew with the 356FG from 1944-45.  Its the one with the blue spinner and tail.  I'll start this up when my Airfix Eagle is done.

On Ed's bench, ???

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, September 15, 2019 8:36 AM

Time to get going on my second entry, the Revell 1/72nd Fw 200C-8.

I'll be adding an Eduard Big Ed Pe set for this. And i will be useing Xtradecal Am decals. I got the decal set for the Trump C-3 kit but it included a C-8 which, like the one in the kit thats featured on the box art was used against the Finn's in 1944. But unlike the one in the kit the AM set does not have the wave pattern scheme which i am not ready to do just yet, so i took the easy route.

The kit has quite a nice interiour for the front and rear areas and the eduard set adds quite a bit of extra detail.

The radio compartment won't be seen at all once doen but i put it all in anyway.

I got the fuselage closed up and that went well. Then in my haste i got the wings on before taking pics. The fit is very good and there was not much to clean up on the fuselage seams.

The forward gun position was then fitted along with the horizontal tail surfaces.

And i primes and painted the underside where the gondala will go along with the wheel wells. The Eduard set includes PE flaps. I have been at these for about 2 nights, its a lot of work but worth it. The upper sets are fitted, i stil have a bit to do on the lower flaps and will leave those off for painting.

Thats it for now. Going to get the flaps wrapped up then i can finish off the final bits before masking and painting.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

On the bench: Revell 1/72nd Fw 200C-8

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Posted by EBergerud on Tuesday, September 10, 2019 2:20 AM

Got the base coat down of Vallejo Metal Color Aluminum. There are some errors - but I always make some. For a first try, I'd give it good marks. It lays down very nicely - no thinning, used my main club the Iwata Eclipse HPC (.3mm) at about 12psi. Seems to level well. A lot more to do.

Eric

 painted by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

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Posted by EBergerud on Monday, September 09, 2019 3:29 AM

AA: the M8 is a very nice build. I did a winter version and bought (rare for me) resin wheels with chains on them from Verlindin.

 

Ki-61 is mostly assembled and primed. I've used the Vallejo Metal Colors on a paint mule and I am "hopefully optimistic" (how's that for a 1980's non sequitur?). This has been an education. Tamiya makes better kits than anyone else - period. (Heard about their new tool 1/48 P-38F/G? I know what my Xmas present will be.) I decided to use gloss black stynelrez. I had good luck with it when I primed my SU-76. But I had not heard their recommendations of 20-30 psi with a .5 needle. Well, had I looked at my Paul Budzik (one of the two or three best YT modelers I think) video on nozzles, I would have remembered that .5 can mean a lot bigger or smaller depending upon the complexity of the needle. The Harder Steenbeck .5 I used is complex - a very shallow slope - which means a whopping big hole. Had this been a Paasche Talon, .5 would have been right. Stynelrez is "self-leveling" which means it should clean up when laid on thick, which you'll do with a .5 at 25psi. It didn't altogether - there were some streaks that I may or may not fix. Stylnelrez did follow the scratches on the surface too well - I had the whole fuselage very smooth but there were some very light scratches on the side - and the primer pooled on top of them. OK - time for surgery. I sanded the primer off and worked more on the scratches. Then I found out that despite claims of glory from other quarters, Stylnelrez does not sand off like a lacquer - it peels around the edges. (I've heard that a coat of future will allow Vallejo primer - famous for peeling - sand solid. That wasn't what I wanted here with NMF coming.) So, after trying to reapply the primer with a slower build up (think .20mm Harder Steenbeck at 20psi) it still didn't look right. So off it came and on went my Duplicolor Hot Rod Black Lacquer Primer. Duplicolor - being a no joke lacquer, grasps plastic like glue (but it does not damage it at all - zero). But Duplicolor is both "fillable" and "sandable" - which means small scratches disappear and you can sand the primer very nicely to give it a very smooth sating finish. I'm guessing that the Vallejo Metal Colors are opaque enough that it won't matter a bit. Anyway, stylnelrez is now for armor only - aircraft will get Duplicolor - it's great for black basing and I'm guessing it will work perfectly well for an opaque NMF. We'll see.

 

I've also researched some pics of the NMF Ki-61s. It looks to me that the NMF finish is more irregular than I've seen on US planes. Below are a wartime photo and one contemporary museum pic which is no doubt pitted, but still shows sign of an irregular finish. Many other photos show the same I think. (Yell if you think I'm wrong.)

 

Eric

 

 primed by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 MetFlight by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 metal2016 by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 

 

 

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Posted by scottrc on Sunday, September 08, 2019 9:25 AM

I decided to make this a full hull and am now mating the lower hull to the assembly.

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Friday, September 06, 2019 10:32 AM

Alright, I'm finally no longer "TBA," having decided on THIS for my entry:

 

Tamiya 1/35 scale M8 Greyhound

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Posted by John 3:16 KJV on Wednesday, September 04, 2019 2:50 PM

Nice that it served with the DEA. :)

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Posted by EBergerud on Tuesday, September 03, 2019 10:08 PM
Nope - I never flew in the Cub - not sure I'd have fit in it, very small. He rented it to the DEA working in the lower Mississippi Delta near New Orleans (the plane had floats) - it had such a low stall speed that they could fly very slowly and look for small traces of bad guys. DEA couldn't get the funds to buy the plane. That was okay - it was painted yellow with a red stripe - sort of 1950s classic Cub - and he sold it a fat profit a couple of years later.

 

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Posted by John 3:16 KJV on Tuesday, September 03, 2019 7:59 PM

Thanks, EB! Did you get to fly the real deal before your brother sold it? :)

Check: No problem, and thank you! Big Smile

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, September 03, 2019 6:59 PM

Nice-looking plane, Eric.  Certainly has sleek line.  It'll be instructive watching the painting and weathering!

  

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, September 03, 2019 6:52 PM

Great job, KJV!  Quite an eye-catcher with the invasion stripes.  I'll pick a photo that shows them off to good advantage.  And the tile looks like it might be sitting in a sandy environment--maybe the invasion beach?

Thanks for taking part in the GB.  It was a pleasure having your involvement!

  

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Posted by EBergerud on Tuesday, September 03, 2019 4:05 PM

Very cute Cub. I helped my brother repaint one that he restored and almost died of the fumes. Bro made good money on that deal. Almost the perfect plane for its time - almost a pity they aren't still in production - more air worthy than one of these powered hang gliders.

The Ki-61 was based on the engine and plans for the BF-109E. Instead of simply copying the 109 the Japanese completed work on their own airframe. The plane was deployed in late 42 but was always hampered by it's dicey build quality, especially of the engine. The IJAAF wanted to build a much more powerful version (the Ki-61-II) but it was a design debacle. Ironically the best of the breed were a small number of Ki-61s that were fitted with a functional radial engine and redesignated the Ki-100. BTW: Japan's obsession with build quality in all things after WWII was very much a "lesson learned" from being taught the problems of a second rate manufacturing base during WWII: in 1945 Oscars were fighting Mustangs - ouch.

Speaking of Japanese quality, I've finished the basic assembly of the Tamiya Ki-61-Id. If anyone doubts the superiority of Tamiya in the plastic modeling world, they have to build this kit. It's not simple - the part count is too high. But the fit is simply excellent. You install the cockpit by pushing it up through the bottom of the fuselage: sounds like trouble but "click" and it's in perfectly. The entire wing assembly is one piece and it is also kind of maneuvered into the right angle for - another click and zero gaps anywhere. I've only used a tiny bit of filler on one small error on the wing, and a couple of really small seams underneath. I think I'll be able to have a very clean model to apply NMF on.

 Assembled by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

Obviously there are some pieces missing - not sure what I'll leave off during priming and painting. Also, as this is the first crack at Vallejo's newish Metal Color paints, I'm going to be assaulting a paint mule (get this - an ancient 1/72 model of the A7M - a neat plane not modeled today at all) with primers, clear coats and the paints. I don't want a bright and shinny fighter - I doubt those existed in WWII. So figuring out how to paint and weather this project will take some time.

Eric

 

 

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Posted by John 3:16 KJV on Tuesday, September 03, 2019 2:55 PM

So, I’ve decided to not give the Piper a display base for right now. However, here are the photos I’ll have be my finish-line pictures for this GB. (A piece of tile was my photo shoot base.)

Thank you for entering me into this GB, check; and here is my Smer 1/48 Piper L4 Cub! You can choose whichever picture you prefer for the completed model photos list. Big Smile

But first,

...and model:

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Sunday, September 01, 2019 5:51 PM

Yeah, that's a great photo showing the ship to major advantage.  I'll swap out the front page.

Thanks, Nuckss, for taking part in the build.  

  

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Posted by Nuckss on Saturday, August 31, 2019 11:12 PM

Hi Guys,

Here is a better photo of my final Trumpeter 1/700 HMCS Huron as she was in 1944.

Cheers,

Nuckss

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, August 30, 2019 5:42 PM

Looking good, Scott.  I use coffee cups filled with water to weight down flightdecks while the glue dries.  

I've had Iowa unmasked for a while.  It's the touch-up-by-hand-with-a-paint-brush that's taking so long.

However, I think I finished yesterday, and will apply a clear coat of semi-matte as soon as I get some time freed up

  

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Posted by scottrc on Friday, August 30, 2019 9:21 AM

Hi Check,

I cannot wait to see your Iowa with all the masks off it.  I do admire your 1/700 work.  My 5N seemed to went on thick and uneven.  I thought I had the ratio correct.  Coulorcoats are a fine paint, but like other fine brands, seem to be finiky with the type of thinner or reducer and the ratio to use.  I think much of my problem is humidity.  It has been over 80% at night.

I did manage to get the flighdeck secured.  Now to start the detailing.

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Posted by EBergerud on Monday, August 26, 2019 11:34 PM
Strictly speaking acrylic/lacquer and lacquer paints are not (necessarily) the same. They are both solvent based - but a true lacquer may have a different solvent than an acrylic lacquer. The best example of acrylic lacquer is regular Tamiya. Check on the bottle - it's flammable and poisonous - sure sign of a solvent base. However Tamiya is just now bringing in a line of "lacquer" paints. These could have a more aggressive solvent of the kind you'd run into with Alclad. Lacquers have a big advantage - they slightly bond to the plastic which makes them extremely durable. (Metallic paints are different birds because of their odd pigments - no metallic paint can be masked roughly without paint loss. You must get some sticky off the tape and apply it very carefully and remove it slowly. That might work, but metallics are their own world.) I haven't received any of the AK Real Color paints yet, so I don't know if they will be closer to standard Tamiya (pretty easy on the odor) or Alclad (very pungent stuff). On almost all aircraft I use a rattlecan of Duplicolor 1698 Black Hot Rod lacquer primer - and I do it outside. It's sandable and covers scratches like no other - it's great stuff. However, it's not gloss so I won't be using it on the Natural Metal Finish I intend here - although I probably could. This stuff means nothing to some people, a lot to others like yours truly - I will never use an enamel product and acrylic lacquers only very rarely. Luckily good water based acrylics are available and have advantages beyond not having any odor. BTW: I do not consider any modeling paint unsafe - unless you drink it. Eric

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, August 26, 2019 10:52 PM

I've added your Tony to the build roster, Eric.

Sleek looking craft!  

Great job on the cockpit.

Thanks for the information about AK paint.  I hadn't known about acrylic lacquer paint.

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

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Posted by EBergerud on Monday, August 26, 2019 4:14 AM

 

As threatened I'm building the new Tamiya 1/48 Ki-61d. This is a 1944 rendition of the Tony with twin canon - one of the few planes that had some success against B-29s (until Mustangs started flying from Iwo anyway). It's new Tamiya - Tamiya makes the world's best models - I like it. It's not a simple build though and I've found you have to watch what you're doing and not expect everything to build itself. (Andy at Andy's Hobby Shop on YouTube got his mits on the spanking new Tamiya 1/48 P-38F/G: he says he often wouldn't need glue. About time someone made a good P-38 - a real challenge for a model maker.)

 

This proves that I bought the kit - doubt that's needed although I've been on GBs that required it.

 

 kit by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

I've spent a week or so building the cockpit - it wouldn't take that long but there's a lot of small parts and a lot of painting to do. Should note that I obsessed over the interior color and leaned on uber-meister Japanese color guru Nick Millman who runs the terrific web site "Aviation of Japan." Tamiya calls for an interior of "Desert Yellow" - Millman say that's out. He forwarded color chips of the three candidates (all would have been used in 1944). One looks a lot like Olive Drab. A second is kind of a dark green/yellow: I'm sure this was the color Tamiya hinted at. I had what Millman thought was a perfect match - Vallejo Dark Yellow: okay, but it's a dorky color. The third choice is a kind of light green gray with just a hint of blue. Nick was an adviser to the AK Real Color project and claims their paint Hairyokushoku (Grey-Green) Real Color RC238 is "spot on." (Look up this color or any of the other AK Real Color line on Scale Hobbyist - the best online site in the US. The colors are very good) The problem is that AK Real Color are lacquers and I don't use lacquers. However I was able to use the online color samples as a guide to my brew. I used Vallejo's rendition (they call it Interior Grey Green) and cut it with Vallejo Model Color Green Gray (much darker and less blue/green) and some Golden High Flow White. My brew will do just nicely, and I do like the color.

 

Interiors bore me: this pic is the done deal (minus a wash) under strong light.

 

 cockpit by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

I took another couple of pics under a lesser but cool light and got a much better rendition of the color - although not perfect. I'll do better when the kit nears completion. The other pic shows the interior color sprayed onto the fuselage halves:

 

 cockpit2 by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 color by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

More later

 

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Posted by Nuckss on Friday, August 23, 2019 5:50 PM

scottrc
Speaking from experience about aircraft carriers, they are the most challenging in this scale. Many small caliber guns, multiple radars, and all the details to put on the planes.

 

Good point!

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Posted by John 3:16 KJV on Friday, August 23, 2019 11:46 AM

Est.1961

Thanks Guys, I've traditionally been an oob modeler. Seeing the effort and results of members on this Forum has been an inspiration to try different methods and I did enjoy the PE that comes with this kit.

Joe

 

No problem, Joe! It is good to expand one’s skills! Big Smile 

Thank you, check!

 

 

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     For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.“  - John 3:16-17

 

 

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