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  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 11:30 AM

goldhammer

The deck hardware just arrived....the 4"/50 is a work of art in it's own right. The 20's are beauties as well. but have to cut off the shields and see about straightening a couple of the barrels.

The 5"/51 isn't bad either, but the 4" knocks it out of the park.

Will get some pics today and get them up.

 

Cool! I can't wait to see them.

  • Member since
    August 2014
  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 11:39 AM

A little teaser for what's coming.... Here is the deck hardware for the Gato...

4"/50cal.

The 20mm's.  Going to have to cut off the shields and straighten the barrels, but they are nice ones...

From Shapeways

 

And the kicker is when I put the chip back in the camera it now won't extend the lens out.  Going to have to replace the little thing, or send it in to Fuji for repairs....

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 11:46 AM

GH, youre not kidding! Those look great! 

Ugh, about the camera. Try pulling the battery and putting it back in and retry. Just maybe it will reset things. 

  • Member since
    August 2014
  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 11:52 AM

I did that, along with the chip as well.  Lens only extends about half way, and get an occasional grind of the gears jumping.  Tells me to turn off and back on, but won't retract lens when you turn it off, and get the same message when turned back on.

The 20's were around $12 each and the 4" was about $28.  Well worth it to me for what the boat will represent.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 12:26 PM

Sounds like a freshly charged battery would be the next thing to try.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 12:39 PM

Wow, those are great GH, be careful of streightening those barrels, the plastic they use can be brittle.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • Member since
    August 2014
  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 12:47 PM

Full fresh bats in just in the past few days, only about 6 pics on them.  Showing full charge on the indicator.

I know they harden up with UV in the sunlight, don't know if I should try hairdryer or warm water......open to suggestions from anyone who has messed with that material.

  • Member since
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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 1:05 PM

Wow GH, those printed guns look amazing!!! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    August 2014
  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 1:17 PM

They are ready for paint and will look even better then.  You can't really see the detail in the clear.  I've got his 1/144 versions for another Gato and they are the same quality.  PJ used them on a 1/144 build (the submarine GB awhile back) he did and they were just beautiful when painted.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 1:45 PM

Do you have the link to that GB? I can't find it. There was a useful conversation about Wahoo, the Revell kit and the differences between Government boats and Private Shipyard boats.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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    May 2013
  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 1:48 PM

GH,

Those guns look fantastic! Do you know what plastic Shapeway uses for their prints? PLA? ABS? PLA can warp when it's printed at too high a temperature, so I imagine it can be reshaped by heating it up. 

I bought a 3D printer, so, I'm going to be doing more experimenting soon! 

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

  • Member since
    August 2014
  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 1:52 PM

GM:  look on page 3 of the GB's...official submarine warfare GB.

HF: no idea what he uses for material...kind of looks like a nylon type stuff.  Going to message him and see what he suggests.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 2:01 PM

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/29/t/171539.aspx

Thank you, Goldhammer. I just remembered that I have the Trumpeter 1/144 Gato kit from the build which I never got around to. I had lost track of all of the research that was done. I look forward to your BIG build.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Saturday, July 20, 2019 12:30 PM

Heard back from the man who makes the 20's.  He didn't give any suggestions for trying to straighten.  Said to send pics to Shapeways service center and they would send replacements.

Now that's taking care of his buyers!!

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, July 20, 2019 11:57 PM

I'm adding a model which will come first. Details to follow.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, July 21, 2019 9:38 AM

Yes

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 21, 2019 10:04 AM

goldhammer

Heard back from the man who makes the 20's.  He didn't give any suggestions for trying to straighten.  Said to send pics to Shapeways service center and they would send replacements.

Now that's taking care of his buyers!!

 
 

If they don't make you send the old ones back, you should try heating them and see if you can bend them back. I'd bet you can straighten them out. Then you'd have an extra set, and we'd know if it's fixable. 

Glad they'll send a new set, it is the right thing to do.

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, July 21, 2019 11:06 AM

Hoping to do that, just to see if it's possible.  Besides, old fumble fingers will prob break 2 of them getting the shields off. Embarrassed  Going on a week's trip today so will have to wait till I get back.  My lady's buss driver retirees bunch do a 10 day RV campout every year.  Taking the coach this time around.  

Taking the Santa and Airfix GB projects with me to fill in dead time.

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 21, 2019 11:34 AM

goldhammer

Hoping to do that, just to see if it's possible.  Besides, old fumble fingers will prob break 2 of them getting the shields off. Embarrassed  Going on a week's trip today so will have to wait till I get back.  My lady's buss driver retirees bunch do a 10 day RV campout every year.  Taking the coach this time around.  

Taking the Santa and Airfix GB projects with me to fill in dead time.

 

It sounds like the trip could be fun! Enjoy!

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, July 22, 2019 12:49 AM

GMorrison

I'm adding a model which will come first. Details to follow.

 

So what's here? Morrison's Third Law of Modeling:

"No matter the size of the bench, the available work space will always be exactly two square feet"

Beyond that, and ignoring the CL hull at the top;

A glue bomb  from eBay, Revell kit of a supercarrier hull.

A Revell flatbottom carrier from the mid fifties (both the kit and the ship).

What could he have in mind?

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, July 22, 2019 8:57 AM

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

http://www.spamodeler.com/forum/

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  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Monday, July 22, 2019 9:04 AM

GMorrison

A glue bomb  from eBay, Revell kit of a supercarrier hull.

A Revell flatbottom carrier from the mid fifties (both the kit and the ship).

What could he have in mind?

 

 

 

Umm, Star Blazers: Space Carrier Midway 2199?  Big Smile

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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    July 2014
Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, July 22, 2019 3:36 PM

Speaking of changing the first kit, I have decided to swith from the NC to the 1/350 Dragon Spruance. I have PE for it and it shouldn't take too long, realtively speaking, to complete.

It's actually a replacement for a kit I started 20 years ago but didn't have the skillset to complete.

And yes, it will have a water base.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

http://www.spamodeler.com/forum/

  • Member since
    March 2010
  • From: Boston
Posted by mach71 on Monday, July 22, 2019 8:09 PM

Hmm, I don't build ship models. Well except for the H.L. Hunley I built for the submarine GB, but that could hardly be called a ship.

 

A friend sent me a hat from the USS Blueback, SS-581 from the '60s and I've been doing some reading about her. But there is no kit of the Barbel class. 

Then I got to thinking, Never a good idea, It's a contemporary of the USS Skipjack. Both hulls are based on the USS Albercor reaserch submarine.

So I posed the question over at the ship section.

Could the Blueback be bashed from a Skipjack kit? The consensus was yes! 

 

If I start with the old Aurora 1/230 scale Skipjack (13in) It will scale out very close to a 1/200 Blueback. The sail and tailfins will need to be reworked, but it might be doable. 

 

So all this is a longwinded way of asking. Please sir, may I join the group build?

I thought of building the same kit as Mach1, but thats probably putting too much strain on the space/time contimuum. 

 

 

  • Member since
    January 2019
  • From: Southeast Kentucky
Posted by The Drifter on Monday, July 22, 2019 8:35 PM

modelcrazy

Speaking of changing the first kit, I have decided to swith from the NC to the 1/350 Dragon Spruance. I have PE for it and it shouldn't take too long, realtively speaking, to complete.

It's actually a replacement for a kit I started 20 years ago but didn't have the skillset to complete.

And yes, it will have a water base.

 

Oh boy Steve...That is a nice kit, and I am going to enjoy watching you build her, and a water diorama...boy oh boy!! 

Jeff

  • Member since
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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 22, 2019 9:06 PM

Gentlemen, help a novice ship builder out. What PE would you recommend i get for my USS Wisconsin 1:700? At this scale, what would make sense to get? If anything, or is it not worth the effort?

  • Member since
    August 2014
  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Monday, July 22, 2019 10:00 PM

At that scale I'd probably call it good with railings, but maybe radar antennas if available.  But those are going to be a bear if your fingers, eyes and coordination is anything like mine...blind as a bat and 15 thumbs in place of fingers.  

Tweezers will be your best buddy in either case

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    July 2014
Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, July 22, 2019 10:36 PM

PE really makes a 1/700 pop, but like GH said at that scale they do get tiny. If you go with it, railing would be the least. Radars, ladders and even wood decks can really make a diffrence. If your intrested I'd look for the Missouri, Iowa etc for PE sets or they make generic rails, US radars and such.

BTW, I measured the ohms on a 1/350 5" barrel. Not the same as a 1/700 16" but it might give an idea. It ohmed out at .4 ohms. I think GM's idea of using the barrels as a conductor is certantly worth a try.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

http://www.spamodeler.com/forum/

  • Member since
    July 2014
Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, July 22, 2019 10:44 PM

Mach71, that sounds great. Your Hunley turned out great and was a fun entry to the sub build.

I got you down for a scratchbuild.

I does look like most of the Space Race GB is over here now.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

http://www.spamodeler.com/forum/

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Monday, July 22, 2019 10:49 PM

See what comes in your kit. Reviews suggest there is no PE in the kit, which is a little unusual but it's an older kit.

Yes, it's important to consider adding.

Probably any set for Iowas will be fine. The thing would be WW2 era versus modern refit, there's a lot of difference of course in the electronics. If you are building the "1991" kit, it can't easily be backdated ot earlier period as the weapons other than the big rifles are all pretty different. So look for what you need in terms of era.

I'm no expert let alone knowledgable about the Iowas. I built a bunch of them as a kid, the old Revell kit. 

But I always like Gold Medal sets for their workability or Tom's for the price.

It would seem (pun intended) that decks are available too.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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