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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 2, 2019 11:11 AM

Bill & Steve: Those look awesome guys! My kit is still buried in the stash and I haven't even dug it out yet... Embarrassed

 

What kind of loser plays with a ship model on the carpet??? I always played out my battles in the bathtub or the kiddie pool... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, August 2, 2019 10:56 AM

LOL cartpet battle hulls. Big Smile

I started the Spruance hull last night. There were some gaps but I don't care since it will be in a seascape. The hull halves didn't have any aligning pins which is a little odd but it went together fine. The rest of the build looks pretty easy even with the PE.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, August 1, 2019 10:00 PM

modelcrazy

 

 
GAF
Great modification!  Just takes some ingenuity and a bit of elbow grease. 

 

Ditto

I don't know that artical, I'd check out the link if you posted it.

I've heard, I don't know it's correct or not, that Revel molded the Arizona, Missouri, Franklin D, ETC. with a flat bottom so that kids could play with them on the floor.

That be an old wife's tale, or in this case an old modlers tale.

 

That could be, as the Essex models were not popular carpet sea battle craft as they had a full hull.

Also an old story is that Revell just didn't have access to the hull lines.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:38 PM

Crown,

We were issued two pills before getting underway. A red pill and a blue pill and no the red pill didn't reveal the Matrix. The red one was for the seasickness and the blue was to counteract the red. I don't know what they were but they worked. After about 24 hours I didn't have a problem, no matter what the sea state was.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Thursday, August 1, 2019 5:35 PM

Got my sea legs now.Ick! will start the PT boat soon.

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, August 1, 2019 3:42 PM

GAF
Great modification!  Just takes some ingenuity and a bit of elbow grease. 

Ditto

I don't know that artical, I'd check out the link if you posted it.

I've heard, I don't know it's correct or not, that Revel molded the Arizona, Missouri, Franklin D, ETC. with a flat bottom so that kids could play with them on the floor.

That be an old wife's tale, or in this case an old modlers tale.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Thursday, August 1, 2019 3:35 PM

GM,

Very well done and thought out.

I love seeing how modelers perform "surgery" to solve a problem! 

 

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

GAF
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  • From: Anniston, AL
Posted by GAF on Thursday, August 1, 2019 3:18 PM

GM,

Great modification!  Just takes some ingenuity and a bit of elbow grease.  Smile

As for me, nothing to report on my end.  Decided I needed some inspiration, so I dug out my copy of "Victory at Sea". 

I'll get a prospectus up soon on plans.

Gary

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, August 1, 2019 2:55 PM

Casting off, headed into the fairway.

I'm generally following an old Mike Ashey article back in 2002 that was in FSM.

The second plastic ship kit Revell ever marketed was the 1/540 scale CV-42 U.S.S. Franklin D. Roosevelt, second ship of the Midway Class. That ship was to be named Coral Sea, but when the President passed away that was changed. CV-43 became the Coral Sea.

The model is very good, the mold maker was one of the best in his time. It stands up well today. I've had this kit for a very long time but was put off by the flat bottom hull.

Not long ago Bill Morrison pointed out the article to me. Mike Ashey took the FDR, and grafted the below waterline hull of a Revell Forrestal to it. As the kits are the same scale, and although a little longer and a little wider, the Forrestal hull is the next class after the Midways and is very similar. I won't summarize the article, and I hesitate to post the link, but it's in the July 2002 issue of FSM.

I bought an old Saratoga glue bomb on eBay for shipping. Here are the two hulls side-by-side.

I cut each one at the waterline after checking to see that each was correct in terms of Sara's draft and Rosie's freeboard.

Before cutting the bottom out of the Midway class ship I installed cross braces to maintain the planform so that the deck will fit. 

That's it for today. I've ordered Star Fighter CV-41 Midway decals, and probably will get some better 40mms. The kit has those funny 20mms molded to the decks that look like a "Y", ala the Iowas models that came before. I'll be using some 1/700 ones I have- those things are always grossy overscale.

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, August 1, 2019 11:43 AM

OK captains, cast off all lines and get underway at your descretion.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:03 PM

Drabix, welcome aboard Captain Welcome Sign

You have been pipped aboard as Massachusetts ariving...Massachusetts aboard, with bells of course.

My group builds are pretty easy and slack. Just post when you do something of note on your build or want to ask a question or just chase a rabbit down the hole.

As you probably read in the rules, the GB starts on Thursday, or whenever it's midnight on the Aug 1st in your part of the world and will last until said world ends....or I do. Well for that last part, the GB will still go on, I just won't answer.

Good to have you John.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 8:55 PM

Sorry Mach I though I answred you.

That looks like fun and that finished build looks outstanding.

You can always use the reactor to power something at your house....like the house.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by Drabix on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:50 PM

New to this Group Build stuff, so here goes...

Put me down for BB-2 USS Massachusetts, 1/700 Blue Ridge kit.  It's been on the shelf far too long waiting for me to dust off my modelling skills.

 BB-2 Box upload by John Coleman, on Flickr

 

On the bench:  1/350 Tamiya DD445 Fletcher

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  • From: Boston
Posted by mach71 on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:00 PM

This arrived the other day.

 

 

It's an old kit. Not bad. Kind of simple. It does come with a nuclear reactor which I wont 

be using.

 

Some research shows the USS Blueback has a conventional tailplane set up. 

I'll have to figure out the limber hole trench and modifie the sail. At least the rear extension has to go.

 

Some photos I've found:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, July 26, 2019 3:20 PM

Oh, I'd love to have that kit.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Friday, July 26, 2019 2:45 PM

Dragon's Smart Kit, 1/350.  '43 version,IIRC.   So plenty of PE to swear at.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, July 26, 2019 11:34 AM

Ooo the Scharnhorst sounds great, 350 or 700?

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Friday, July 26, 2019 9:57 AM

I'll pass on the British....Have Scharnhorst for the German GB, and itching to do the F6F-5 Airfix 1/24 that latched onto my ankle and woouldn't let go last night at the LHS.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, July 26, 2019 9:19 AM

Steve, the Airazona would work just fine, let me know if you wanted to add it. The GGM PE does look daunting but after some study it's not as bad as it looks. GGM doesn't have the best instructions.

GH, the British ships GB is open ended like this one, you have forever to finish it.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, July 25, 2019 11:49 PM

BB 39 will be a great one.  Very similar to the old Revell offering.

Snowberry would be a good one for MC's British build.

MC... That one may never get built, at least for the next couple of years.

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Posted by steve5 on Thursday, July 25, 2019 11:27 PM

cheers gentlemen , I have the hobby boss 1/350 arizona started , just a bit skittish with the PE , have to practice a bit first , I've also got the revell 1/144HMCS snowberry started too . I might finish it first , then jump into your group build .

steve5

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, July 25, 2019 10:40 PM

goldhammer

The only sail I have is the Victory....to bad she never was under the stars and stripes.

 

You can't get away that easy GH, The British Ships GB still has a year to enter.

Steve

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, July 25, 2019 8:10 PM

The only sail I have is the Victory....to bad she never was under the stars and stripes.

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Posted by Ted4321 on Thursday, July 25, 2019 6:07 PM

goldhammer

  But then again, plenty of canvas in the early US as well.

 

This is a good point. It also gets the wheels turning- might be the excuse motivation I need to start dabbling in sailing ships.  2 years has to be enough time to narrow down a subject. 

T e d

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, July 25, 2019 1:47 PM

I'll 3rd those comments.....I know how good you are with sail, would be a treat to see what you do with something more modern.  But then again, plenty of canvas in the early US as well.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, July 25, 2019 9:39 AM

Sure Steve. baywatchers are always welcome and if you want to get your feet wet you have until Aug 1 2021 to come up with something and enter. As the rules state, it's an open ended GB.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Thursday, July 25, 2019 9:36 AM

steve5

hello gentlemen , capt bakster , informed me of this group build , unfortunately , I am unable to participate at the moment . but I would love to come along for the ride , as an observer it all possible , just to learn how a group build goes .

steve5

 

 

Steve5,

You should join us! 

These are the first two rules of this GB:

1. Starts on Aug 1st runs until time ends or the Earth is destroyed.

2. You have two years to enter and until FSM goes away to post it.

 

 

I think you are covered on the timing. Heck, I'm thinking of entering another ship myself. 

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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Posted by steve5 on Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:58 AM

hello gentlemen , capt bakster , informed me of this group build , unfortunately , I am unable to participate at the moment . but I would love to come along for the ride , as an observer it all possible , just to learn how a group build goes .

steve5

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, July 23, 2019 10:58 PM

goldhammer
She is in Gulf War fit.

Bingo.

goldhammer
Still going to be nice see your build of her. 

Ageed. She is a beauty, the Big Wisky.

Thanks for all the good input.

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, July 23, 2019 10:46 PM

She is in Gulf War fit.  Would be a bear to back date her.  Would take two kits to do, or mold 4 more 5" mounts, plus any other changes that would be obvious.

Still going to be nice see your build of her.

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