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yukonrob

Member since
January 2005
From: with Rommel in the desert

Posted by yukonrob on Saturday, January 15, 2005 1:54 AM

Hi Aurora
No - not taking myself out of the build, just going to take the plane out of the water...
Spent a lot of money with squadron today, details for the plane, paint, etc.
Is there a penalty for starting early?

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Saturday, January 15, 2005 12:37 PM

Penalty!

What am I going to do? Take away points?

The start and stop dates are really to help people develope a schedule in case they are involved with other builds. So, yukonrob, if you can't restrain yourself, it's OK with me if you start early.

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Saturday, January 15, 2005 12:48 PM

Starting early should be penalized by one warped fuselage half Smile [:)]

. Starting early usually isn't a problem for me.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:31 AM

............Or how about PE details for cockpit and engines are required Smile [:)]

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cossack

Member since
April 2004
From: Sydney

Posted by cossack on Monday, January 17, 2005 12:24 AM

Starting early???? I think I am erring more towards Rob - its timetabled for 1 Feb - so everything else has to finish before then!!

By the way, can you confirm me as the RNZAF Cat?? Thanks to Rob, I have the Aeromaster decals, and have selected my "boat" Smile [:)]

- Thanks again Rob!!

By the way, through my own stupidity, I missed an eBay auction of that Aeromaster Special Pack today - I am surprised you Americans didn't hear my cursing from there!!

Paul

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af53/raiderpilot/smprop_gb.jpg

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, January 17, 2005 9:34 AM

Well, it's Rick, not Rob, but I was glad to help out. Looking forward to the RNZAF Cat.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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yukonrob

Member since
January 2005
From: with Rommel in the desert

Posted by yukonrob on Monday, January 17, 2005 5:14 PM

I can't start early in any regards, at least until the UPS man comes. And besides, there is a P-47 in the way, and (gasp) a panzer too. (both in various stages of incompletness)
BTW - a couple of group build newbie questions:
1) when is it legit to display the badge
B) how do I do so
Thanks

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cossack

Member since
April 2004
From: Sydney

Posted by cossack on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 2:29 AM

... Ooops ... sorry RICK!! ... what a Blue [:S]

SWMBO is kindly pointing out a lack of space to store models the size of the Cat ... but since when has a minor detail such as "space" every got in the way of good modelling??? Just wait till I add the B17, He111 and Ju88 (both A and C models) to the shelves Tongue [:P]

Paul

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af53/raiderpilot/smprop_gb.jpg

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 6:32 PM

Paul, better get some reinforcements for the shelves Smile [:)]

.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:03 AM

for the members listed here, let me know if you have chosen a subject yet for this build:

KINGTHAD

miduppergunner

toot_the_flute

woodbeck3

searhorse, did you want to use your Mavis for the build here?

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 20, 2005 7:57 PM

hello aurora-7!!
In this moment i take some problems with the juntcion between the two halves of the boat..and the tail gun because a lack information on the old PROFILE PUBLICATION not appear information on the base gun and the position of the tail gunner!!
In a short time i will wished some solution...one question please..who is the metod to posted photos for my works?
regards
seahorse

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roadkill_275

Member since
September 2003
From: North East Texas

Posted by roadkill_275 on Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:47 PM

Okay cancel my P-Boat. It's in a box that went AWOL during my recent move Sad [:(]

. However I do still have the Kingfisher. I'll be ready to start it on the first.

Kevin M. Bodkins "Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup" American By Birth, Southern By the Grace of God! www.milavia.com Christian Modelers For McCain

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cossack

Member since
April 2004
From: Sydney

Posted by cossack on Friday, January 21, 2005 2:00 AM

Roadkill,

Is that the Monogram Kingfisher? That kit intrigues me, so I wait to see how it goes together for you.

AND!!! Just 8 days before we float off Wink [;)]

Paul

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af53/raiderpilot/smprop_gb.jpg

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 21, 2005 7:54 AM

Hi guys I've just recieved the canopy from squadron for the sunderland looks great , I've never used one before so this will be intresting . I had a test fit of the fuselage half and the wing halfs today and they seam to fit well..hopefully there won't be to many problems .

the count down is on..

cheers mike..

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 21, 2005 11:57 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by mgbriggs

Hi guys I've just recieved the canopy from squadron for the sunderland looks great , I've never used one before so this will be intresting .
the count down is on..
cheers mike..

mike:
a question re: squadron canopy... is that a vac-form or injection molded piece ?
i was thinking about ordering 4 a project i'm doing, just wanted 2 know what
i mite b getting myself into ...
thanx,

frosty Smile [:)]

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Friday, January 21, 2005 12:26 PM

Looky! Looky! you seaplane builders:

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/IJARG/jpseaplane.html
http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/seaplane.html
http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/NARG/nargflyboats.html

Actually, the links roll up to here:

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/

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rrmelend

Member since
January 2004
From: Phoenix, AZ by way of Carlsbad, CA

Posted by rrmelend on Friday, January 21, 2005 2:01 PM

Thanks for the links, got a few new pics of the Mariner I was missing.

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Friday, January 21, 2005 2:05 PM

Good link. Thanks for posting.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 21, 2005 5:48 PM

QUOTE: mike:
a question re: squadron canopy... is that a vac-form or injection molded piece ?
i was thinking about ordering 4 a project i'm doing, just wanted 2 know what
i mite b getting myself into ...
thanx,

G'day frosty its a vac-u-foam canopy molded as one piece you need to cut out the section , as I have never used one before so I can't tell what its like to use . I know that you need to be careful cutting it out . I've heard that if you put blue-tac behind it for support and too hold it in positon it makes it alot easier.

Heres a pic of it hope this helps..

cheers mike

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roadkill_275

Member since
September 2003
From: North East Texas

Posted by roadkill_275 on Saturday, January 22, 2005 11:16 AM

Paul::::: Yes it's the monogram kit.It's not a bad little kit. Has the option of wheeled and float and comes with the option of a RN version.

Kevin M. Bodkins "Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup" American By Birth, Southern By the Grace of God! www.milavia.com Christian Modelers For McCain

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 11:01 AM

Just a bump to keep the build in mind. 7 days until launch. Working on the BOB build and finishing my natural metal K-44 has got me in the mood to build something bigger!

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:46 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by mgbriggs

QUOTE: mike:
a question re: squadron canopy... is that a vac-form or injection molded piece ?

G'day frosty its a vac-u-foam canopy molded as one piece you need to cut out the section...
cheers, mike

mike:
thanx 4 the info !
i've never done any vac-form work either.
w/ super sharp scissors & being really careful, it shouldn't b too bad, tho'...
best of luck w/ ur build !

frosty Smile [:)]

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:57 AM

Started taking a closer look at the Sword 1/72 Sikorsky S-43 kit & it looks pretty good. I haven't started building it yet, but some dry fitting reveals there may be a problem with the fit of the windscreen. It appears to be too shallow, with a definite step likely with the mating fuselage. Has anyone built this kit that could confirm or alleviate my initial concern ?

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 12:27 PM

Rick,

It'll be a choice of filing away fuselage or canopy. Depend with looks like it would be a better representation -less fuselage or less glass. How does it compare to images of real S-43s?

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DanCooper

Member since
March 2004
From: Belgium

Posted by DanCooper on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:31 PM

Aah, the "Float and Flies" people, just the guys (and gals) I was looking for... maybe one of you could tell me if Mach2 is the only manufaterer that makes a PBM Mariner ?
Mach2 is hard to find over here, so I was wondering if some of the "regular" manufecterors is producing such a bird as well.

Thank You

On the bench : Revell's 1/125 RV Calypso

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:50 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Aurora-7

It'll be a choice of filing away fuselage or canopy. Depend with looks like it would be a better representation -less fuselage or less glass. How does it compare to images of real S-43s?

Just dry fitting, it appears that the windscreen fits the nose OK, but it's about .020 or so too shallow to blend with the top of the fuselage deck, creating a step. That's too much to file off the top of the fuselage without disrupting the contour of the aircraft. I hate it when clear parts don't fit, as they are a pain to modify without destroying them. Especially when the're too small, it's tough to make them larger.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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rrmelend

Member since
January 2004
From: Phoenix, AZ by way of Carlsbad, CA

Posted by rrmelend on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:13 PM

DanCooper: Revell also makes a PBM but it is in 1/112 The model does no justice to the Mariner. The Mach 2 one is the only real choice unless you can dish out the cash for a Pend Oreille PBM in 1/48. This is my favorite aircraft mainly because my grandfather was a nose gunner on one from '44-'46.

I'm working on the Mach 2 kit now for this build and let me tell you it is looking like a real challenge. The plastic is soo thick it's unbelieveable. I just ordered some Aeroclub props for it because the kit props are a joke. I also wish there was an aftermarket company for all of the clear pieces. These are also way too thick but I guess you take what you get and do the best you can.

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Aurora-7

Member since
December 2002
From: Connecticut, USA

Posted by Aurora-7 on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:53 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by rjkplasticmod
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Just dry fitting, it appears that the windscreen fits the nose OK, but it's about .020 or so too shallow to blend with the top of the fuselage deck, creating a step.

Oh, I thought the windscreen was too big! How about adding a shims to add to the fuselage portion?

rrmelend,
I would like a Mariner kit ,too but the Mach 2 kit is too much money (for me) for a 1/72 scale kit. Someday someone will mass produce a PBM in 1/72 but I can't believe it hasn't happened yet!

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rjkplasticmod

Member since
February 2003
From: A Spartan in the Wolverine State

Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:07 PM

I suppose a shim is the way to go, although that will cause a step at the windscreen to fuselage nose join Banged Head [banghead]

. Ah the joys of limited run kits.

Regards, Rick

RICK

At My Age, I've Seen It All, Done It All, But I Don't Remember It All...

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rrmelend

Member since
January 2004
From: Phoenix, AZ by way of Carlsbad, CA

Posted by rrmelend on Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:47 AM

I'm actually hoping someone will produce an affordable on in 1/48 as this is usually the only scale I work in. I'm still trying to figure out how to put this kit in water at a simi-reasonable price. When I am done I'm hoping on giving this model to my grandfather to display with all his other Mariner memorablilia.

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