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Hobby Fan M667/M752 Lance Launcher,4/24/10 COMPLETE!!

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  • From: NE Massachusetts
Posted by 1SG Davis on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:31 PM

Mike,

667/752 is coming along great.  Your MERDC scheme using the silly putty to mask looks great.  It brings back memories of the M60A0 I did about this time last year with using the silly putty for the first time.  Tedious as it is the results are worth it.  The detail on the Lance launcher looks fantastic too.

 I saw in an earlier post you were looking to get the chalky washed out look.  I had luck getting the effect you describe with some light grey powder worked on with a semi stiff paint brush.  It also had the effect of softening up the hard edge lines a bit too.

Gary

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:11 PM

JD - Thanks for the comments. As far as the kit, the resin is EXCELLENT, no voids, rough spots, and flash is low. Fit on the large major parts was quite good, no worse than a styrene kit so you do need a little putty for seams but not much.

That was the good...now the bad. As you can see I added a lot of details. The tie downs are just blobs. The two half round tool holders are solid resin. The resin mesh of the air intake is less than desirable. As for the directions....they generally inhale. As an engineer and someone who does a bunch of research before a build....that comes in handy. With that said, the basic assembly is not that difficult.

I am modeling it with the crew cab closed and the missile ready to fire. The crew cab if open needs a lot of work.

Overall it is a good kit with no major flaws and will build into a nice model. If you do not have a problem working with resin, I would recommend it.

Hope that helps

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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  • From: Sunny Califorina
Posted by Sherman1111 on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:31 PM

Outstanding job on the kit, overall how did you find the kit, fit wise and instructions? I have bought the wrecker for the Hemtt and the instructions were not that great, like you I like the unusal and have had my eye on this kit for some time.

JD

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  • From: New Jersey
Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:39 PM

Pawel - Thanks for stopping by and the comments. I like the idea. It has me thinking.

Gino - Thanks....I was thinking somewhat along those lines....I have some MIG Ashes and Smoke pigments....could be white or mix to grey. I may give it a try on the underside to see how it looks....

Thanks

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:25 PM

Another option for the fading is to fade each color with some grey or white to lighten in, then heavily drybrush (scrub) it over each corresponding color.  This will blend them and make the hard-edge camo less visible though.  An overall dusting of pigments may do it too.

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 7:03 AM

Hello Mike,

great job, as usual. I'd say a gentle "dust" coat airbrushed on the lower portions of the machine should do the trick. I used it here and I think it did the trick. Hope it helps, looking forward to see more of tour work. Have a nice day

Pawel

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, March 15, 2010 6:28 PM

Clay - Thanks....you are too kind....Yep I am here and on the LEM.  You can find me in either place!!

Gino - Thanks....now if I just could figure out how to give the whole finish that chalky...faded look that most of the MERDOC paint jobs had.......I'm thinking..any ideas??

Thanks again

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, March 15, 2010 9:26 AM

The MERDC camo looks great Mike.  Keep up the great wor.  Can't wait to see this one finished.

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  • From: ohio
Posted by vonryan on Monday, March 15, 2010 6:32 AM

very nice Mike so this is where i have to go to see your amazing work. great build!!! also really like that very fine PE work. sweet panit job to. i keep looking and i could go on and on. again great work as always  

Clay 

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, March 15, 2010 6:12 AM

Kevin - Thanks. The Archer welds save us old farts time over the method we know of the stretched sprue or putty. They also have a nice "bead"  to them and look great when finished. As far as the MERDOC...it is mainly an exercise in masking.....that's enough exercise for a whileWink

 Now as far as getting out....the fiddly things get nicer but it's still a model!!Wink 

Jeff B - Thanks for the complement. The key, especially with something like this is patience.....then silly putty......and lastly the most important invention to man......blue painters tape Wink

Thanks again

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by JEFFB on Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:38 PM

very cool project!!!  The your painting skills on a carrier that small is amazing!  Can't wait to see the rest

 

Evo

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Posted by minimortar on Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:02 PM

Awesome goings-on there Mike! Man... MERDOC camo... you've got bigger ones than I! I think this is the first time that I've ever seen the Archer Welds on a build (I don't get out much) and I am very impressed.

 Beginning to have the audio flashbacks now. Watching closely... mopping up the drool.

Thanks for the specifics.

Thanks,
Kevin Keefe

Mortars in Miniature
A Scale Model (Plus!) Collection of the Infantryman's Artillery

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:23 PM

After the snow….then the flooding rain and worst of all…doing my taxes, here is my current progress in the paint booth

First the chassis and the M740 launched were cleaned and then primed with Tamiya Flat Black. After masking the inside floor of the chassis to keep the black base for the steel paint, the overall chassis was painted with Poly Scale Dark Tactical Green 505388. This is the base Dark Green for the MERDOC pattern.

The MERDOC camouflage pattern is a particular PITA as it is a hard edge camouflage pattern with 4 colors that covers the entire vehicle. The cargo bay on the M667 was not camouflage and so after drying the cargo interior was masked off. Then I pulled out the silly putty. After laying out the patterns and masking the remaining areas, I painted the next color, Poly Scale Interior Green 505096 which is the match for the Light Green in the pattern.

In between each coat, I like to let the paint set up for 24 hours before possibly pushing silly putty on fresh paint. After clean up from the Light Green masking, more silly putty and masking. I then painted with Tamiya Buff XF-57 which is the match for the sand color.

Lastly, I had one more cleanup, more silly putty and masking and then painting with Tamiya Flat Black. After all the masking was removed , here is the 4 color MERDOC camouflage. The two greens are supposed to have about 45% coverage each while the black and sand about 5% each. At this scale 5% is tight!!

With the masking removed from the floor, I masked the cargo area walls and painted the floor deck with Alclad Steel.

While working on the chassis I also worked on the launcher. First was an overall coat of Tamiya OD (JSDF) XF-74 which is a match to the older VN OD green. Many of the launchers were not repainted righ away and I thought to go this route in the interest of contrast.

I was back again with the silly putty to mask off the deflection gear and the slide plates where the upper carriage pivots on the lower. I then painted these areas along with the elevating piston with Alclad Dark Aluminum.

Here is a close up view of the launcher rear. I dry brushed the equilibrator springs with Alclad Steel for paint wear and chipping on the springs. I also added the trailer tail lights. The kit does not include the taillights for the launcher (which are used when removed from the M667 and towed as a trailer). But does have the insert holes where they are installed. After a trip to the parts box I fixed that problem.

Lastly I began assembling the star of this build…the MGM-52 Lance missile. Here the missile is assembled and will be heading to the paint booth shortly.

That’s it for now. Tracks, road wheels and washes next.

As always, all comments are welcome and thanks for stopping by.

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 5:09 AM

Kevin - Thanks

Big fingers and old eyes with little parts.....leads to periods of colorful metaphores!!.  On to paint

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Posted by minimortar on Monday, March 1, 2010 6:56 PM

Crusin' along !! quite nicely !! there Mike! Diggin' the fiddley-bits!

Thanks,
Kevin Keefe

Mortars in Miniature
A Scale Model (Plus!) Collection of the Infantryman's Artillery

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, March 1, 2010 3:00 PM

Gino, Marc and Bill - Thanks.....having fun with the details is my part of modeling.that I love Wink

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, March 1, 2010 2:02 PM

Nice work on all the details here Mike! Really dressing this one up nicely and those tracks look good, nothing like whiling away the hours with the TV on in the background for track assembly. Wink

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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, March 1, 2010 9:46 AM

Looking great Mike.  This one should be another show stopper with all the added details.

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, March 1, 2010 7:07 AM

YO Mike.  I missed this 1st time out.    Great work so far.  This is going to be a very cool vehicle when done.

Marc  

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, March 1, 2010 4:58 AM

Bufflehead - Thanks. Not every kit has a problem. Hobby Fan kits are one of the better resin kits. Though as someone mentioned earlier, they had a kit that was missing parts!!

As far as the Fruils....

http://www.fototime.com/ftweb/bin/ft.dll/pictures?userid=F9F3E062FE3B44349898193F749A47C4&inv=B0C9AA56DC75DE8&albumid={B8E32763-BCFB-4D4B-92A9-A5DFA3A0AFAF}&inv=B0C9AA56DC75DE8

As stated here...a few hours....great step by step

Thanks again for stopping by

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by bufflehead on Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:38 PM

Redleg, WOW!  That's looking very nice!  Great detail work all around, you're a man after my own heart!  Big Smile.  I guess not all resin kits have major fit problems!  Question:  How long do you soak your Friuls in vinegar and do you rinse them off with water afterwards?

Ernest

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:47 PM

Andy - Thanks....yep the hooks and tie downs are small....they are a Royal PITA. A good thing the PE sets come with extras.....just when you think you are about to set one.....ping....like tiddle winks it disappears into never space.  Lost a few that way.

As much as a PITA they are....the little items make the kit...IMO....a lot better than resin or styrene blobs.

Thanks again

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by Bodge on Sunday, February 28, 2010 5:14 PM

Your quite simply doing a superb job on that, Those details are tiny. The tracks also look superb. My hat off to you.

Andy.

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  • From: New Jersey
Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, February 28, 2010 3:44 PM

It’s been a few weeks but I have been picking away. The kit is fairly good but lacks some details. You know how I am with details so I spent a bunch of time studying the photographs of the M667/M752 and went off to my bench to work on the model.

First I tackled the front of the M667/M752. There were two big half round resin blobs on the kit which represent tool holders. I first used my Dremel to remove the resin blobs and then cut some scrap PE to the right size. Using a 1/8 inch drill bit, I rolled and shaped the PE into the hollow half round tubes. All of the PE was applied with Gator Glue and then the tube glue joints were sealed with Mr. Surfacer 500.

There were a number of resin tie downs which like styrene molded ones were not the best. I removed those using an x-acto knife and added PE tie downs from the M548 Eduard set. These are used to tie down the tools which are the handle, pick head, pry bar and shovel.

There was no holder for the pick head so I used the PE holder from the set.

There is a hole in the front door to mount the moving handle which I filled with punched styrene and then mounted a 26 SS wire handle.

There are weld marks in many places on the M667/M752. In the front the lifting hook plates are welded in place. I used Archer weld bead to show those welds.

The carriage welds on the bottom are Archer fine weld which welds the cab to the carriage.

The mirrors are attached with a plate to the cab on either side. Going through my scrap PE I found two plates which were close and had the hole for mounting the mirror assemblies.

I used the Dremel and knife to clean off the shovel holder which I will use a PE holder and will mount with the shovel later. Here is the detailed front.

The driver’s side has a cover door over the oil fill which I again found something close in the scrap PE pile.

From the M548 PE set I used the T hold down latch for the roof of the driver’s cab which is shown in the collapsed position for firing. There is one on this side and one on the opposite side.

Where the cargo sides meet the cab on the driver’s side, the top reinforcement is muted on the molding of the cab and to correct the fit and look I used some .020 styrene sheet to build it up. Again I used Archer Weld bead and fine Weld bead for the welds to the cargo panel to the cab.

The cargo panel has a number of weld beads in the rear again using Archer weld bead. Inside each panel square I made the bead using 32 gauge SS wire and attaching it with landscape glue.

Running down the side are 10 hooks to hold down a canvas. There are bolted with block through to the inside. The kit has the block and bolts but no hooks. Again, there were from the M548 PE set and applied to both sides for 20 in all.  

Close up of the rear welds

The inside battery cover is just a marking on the molding as opposed to the raised plate with raised X across the plate. The plate is .020 styrene cut to size. The X is using Archer fine welding bead and the locks are from the scrap PE pile.

Next to the plate are a number of connectors. The slave receptacle uses a plate from scrap PE and .040 hex rod. Below it, is a .090 diameter connector punched from .040 styrene. The two blocks are made from .040 styrene and .032 diameter punched connectors from .040 styrene.

Over the engine there are two grab handles which are made from 26 gauge SS wire, drilled and glued into place.

The screen is molded into the kit is YUCH. Using the Dremel I removed the screen and replaced with Eduard 6x6 screen.

The engine access cover has a small square plat on top which is missing on the kit. I found a plate of the right size in the PE scrap pile.

Lastly a couple of PE tie downs were added on the inside wall. Also you can see the T hold down latch on this side.

On the inside wall is a fire extinguisher. The kit supplies the extinguisher with no bracket. I solved this using the M548 PE bracket. Also two tie downs next to the bracket and directly across on the driver’s side.

Here is the overall body as it stand now which after a bit of cleanup is ready for the primer coat.

During the week days, I would pass the time at the TV and assemble the tracks. After clean up I used ½ inch Sequin pins and assembled the tracks.

These are ready to have the pins clipped then a vinegar wash and then a dip in blacken-it.

That’s it for right now. Off to the paint booth for the chassis and launcher, cleaning and dipping for the tracks and time to cleanup and get the road wheels ready.

As always, all comments are welcome and thanks for stopping by.

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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  • From: New Jersey
Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:21 PM

RESlusher

You're my hero!!  I've been dying to build one of those.  Just can't get past the cost of the kit.

I wish someone would have made a kit of the old Pershing II missile system!

 

Slusher - Yep....it is not a cheap kit and needs a bunch of details added...keep watching.

There was a very limited Pershing 1A which I have built. The kit....if you can find it is $$$. If you have the kit, which also needs a bunch of details added could also be converted to a Pershing II. In either case they both require work and $$$

Glad you are enjoying it. I will be getting to a bunch of details soon. Thanks again

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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  • From: Fort Worth, TX
Posted by RESlusher on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:20 PM

You're my hero!!  I've been dying to build one of those.  Just can't get past the cost of the kit.

I wish someone would have made a kit of the old Pershing II missile system!

 

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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  • From: New Jersey
Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 4:23 PM

PS to everyone.....if you want more infor on the Lance missle, (what the hell is Redleg building) here is some things to look at

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/mgm-52.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYwJXGbTQ08

You will enjoy the you tube video!!

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 4:20 PM

Bill - You know me....the strange, different and obtuse.

As far as the safety briefing....as an engineer, there is an extingusher anywhere there is power tools or use of flame. Also with all the chemical storage....paint....there is a nice bright extingusher right next to the bench.

As far as exits......well the warning on the door is "You are leaving the estrogen free zone" Wink...

Thanks my friend

Rounds Complete!!

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  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 2:07 PM

Mike you never fail to disappoint in your choice of subject matter. Definitely going to be fun watching this one come to life. Just make sure in your next safety briefing that you also identify the available exits and locations of all fire extinguishers in case of emergency and you'll be set! Wink

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  • From: New Jersey
Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 12:45 PM

Gino - As always thanks for stopping in and the comments

Ge' - What a pleasure to have you stop by. Sorry to hear about your bad experience with the kit. I guess I'm lucky in that respect

Thanks for stopping in and for looking

Kevin - Ah yes.....missles running aroung Germany!!. I thought I would finish the other half of the 70s cold war missile combo.

Glad to have you along and always a pleasure to have you stop in.

Steve - It is the horse of another color. It just take some getting accustomed to. Many of the more rare items are only available in resin and as you know I am a rare bird!!

Always trying to keep it interesting and different. Thanks on the exhaust system. Yep.....figuring out a widget that will work and use what is lying around is always fun.

Thanks for the comments and for stopping by.

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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