You know jibber, Wayne and I were just talking about this exact kit for this build. He argues that it's not technically self propelled and I said it was because the rail cars were just used to take it the the destination and drop it off.

HOWEVER. after some more thought, if you and I build them on their rail cars, then Wayne would be correct. Technically the rail cars are their prime movers.

The Sherman T34 Calliope, would be iffy because is self propelled, but a rocket launcher, like the SdKfz 251.

I have to rethink this self propelled thing, because there is a lot on a fine line.

Long explanation short. You got it I'll put down for that awesome Karl my friend.

Steve

Steve I get the argument but if I were to build it as a stand alone on tracks, yes its self propelled but it was also used while on it's rail transports. Steve I'll stand by your call, either way I'll have an entry.

No problem, Jibber,

I have modified the rules to include self propelled. It was leaving too many possibilities out.

Go for it.

Still no AT guns please.

Thanks Steve

Wayne-  Thanks I think youre right it, will look better the first way since we probably will shrink them up.

Modelcrazy-  Thanks Man, I will try something with the atomic cannon (do you want it to be the same image you have?) but I really think you have a good one there.  I certainly would want for you to keep that available for all to use!  Just gotta love big booms!

Edit:  Here is the other one I was working on.  For all who may do anything Navy/Sea related!  Quite Patriotic huh! 

jibber

Steve I get the argument but if I were to build it as a stand alone on tracks, yes its self propelled but it was also used while on it's rail transports. Steve I'll stand by your call, either way I'll have an entry.

TERRY where did you read they could fire it while on the rail transports? that's interesting.

I don't think it could.  Could it?   This was the only thing I found about it and its preparation to fire.  None the less, to me it was so limited without that train that I dont know how "Self-propelled" it can really be considered.  I think its going to be an awesome build Terry!  Really cool choice!

www.germandressdaggers.com/Panzer%20Moser%20Karl.htm

"The weapon was moved longer distances via rail on a variant of a Schnabel car; the whole chassis was hung between two huge pedestal-mounted swiveling arms fixed to five-bogy railway flatbed cars. When it reached its destination, the weapon was detached from its supporting arms, driven to its intended firing location, then the chassis was lowered to the ground to distribute the recoil forces more evenly in preparation for firing. The Karl-Gerät proved to have no problems moving over normal soil, but under no circumstances was it allowed to make turns on soft soil lest it throw a track. The chassis had to be backed into position to fire, which expedited movement to a new position and the firing position had to be precisely leveled and the approach route prepared ahead of time to fill in soft spots and any ditches, etc. The Mörser could only be loaded at zero elevation, so it had to be re-aimed between every shot."

Cody,

Man I LOVE that patch. That looks soooo cool. Makes me want to build a naval gun. I'll just have to offer a couple of patches.

Nice job.

That Karl seems like a mean mortar. Do you know how many Germany put into service?

Steve

I wouldn't want to make the call on the  rail gun, but one could have a similar argument about naval weapons.   Unless the cannon or mortar is on dry land, would not having it on board a ship make it self-propelled on some level?

regards,

Jack

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oh yes, cool job with the badges

Yeah, I thought about that too, so self propelled is in.

This is what I'm thinking about. $24.00, 230 mm long  and 350 mm tall, all wood. Plus it would be cool to add to the collection.
By the way this is not self propelled.

Steve-  Thanks Man!  I really appreciate it.  As far as Karl Morser I believe the Germans produced 7 from what I read earlier.  I think 2 or 3 are still unaccounted for. Kinda want one now! Lol

modelcrazy

Yeah, I thought about that too, so self propelled is in.

This is what I'm thinking about. $24.00, 230 mm long  and 350 mm tall, all wood. Plus it would be cool to add to the collection.
By the way this is not self propelled.

 

Wow Steve does that trebuchet actually operate? Looks it you could lob jelly beans with it! 

Cody: Love that badge too, not sure I can decide on which I like better. 

Gamera

does that trebuchet actually operate? Looks it you could lob jelly beans with it! 

Yes, it apparently does  That would be really fun. The company also makes an operational Balista  . I guess you can chase the cat with that one.

modelcrazy

Gamera

does that trebuchet actually operate? Looks it you could lob jelly beans with it! 

Yes, it apparently does  That would be really fun. The company also makes an operational Balista  . I guess you can chase the cat with that one.

Ohhhhhhhhh, cool! 

I'm probably going to have to build this kit to get that cool patch Cody made,

I bought this kit just for this GB even though i'm a SPG builder:

Waste Not Want Not

Looks good Tony Lee, can't wait to see it.

Steve

Steve-  That's an awesome cannon!  Are those basically what pirates would steal?

Found this Leopold today at a near by shop.  Only $15!  Works for me!  

Cody,

That'll work, plus you can pull it with your BR 52.

Ok this is who I have for a roster so far.

Waynec   TBD SSM

Pvt Mutt   Trumpeter Soviet 122 mm Corps Gun M1931/1937

Bish          Possible entry later

CodyJ      1/72 Hasegawa K5 Leopold

Jibber       1/72 Hasegawa 60 cm Mörser Karl "Thor"

Have I left anybody out?

I am officially a Recruiter!

That's perfect. I was thinking of doing something similar. Can I borrow your recruiting Poster?

For sure!   Hooray for propaganda!   Good propaganda that is!

Steve..let me browse my LHS to see if they have anything..it has to be WW1 themed..I'll def get on board if I can get a kit.

It would be great to have you onboard Rob. Anything ancient to modern will work.

Steve: I might jump in this, kinda depends on how the GBs I'm working on now shape up. I looked over the instructions last night, seems pretty straight forward kit if building for a Korean War weapon- the guys here told me some modifications would have to be made for a Second World War field piece.  

Would love to have ya.

MC its shaping up to be a cool build. Thanks

My pleasure my friend.

Awesome!  Oh Rob.S- Not sure if you have seen but I think Emhar makes WWI Artillery... some 1/72 1/32 1/35.  

Emhar Artillery