HMS victory build

Looks beautiful Steve, well done Sir.

steve5

cheer's steve , nice to know your watching mate .

 

cheer's steve , nice to know your watching mate .

Hey Steve, it is looking gorgeous. You are doing some really nice detailing. And the rudder  looks good!

the rudder is dry fitted , doesn't look too bad , now to find a suitable sized chain .

Mike,

I also took your advice and purchased the book.  I got mine off eBay from the Seattle Goodwill, so 100% of the proceeds goes to them.  Thanks again for the advice.  I look forward to reading it.

Bob

Steve, you're quite welcome. I just hope it turns out to have been the kind of expensive purchase that pays for itself in saved time and a bounty of information.

book arrived today , lot's of pic's , seem's easy to read should be a very good asset , thank's for the tip mike .

at this stage no michael , I have spent way too long on the stern ,didn't realise my skill's were not quite there for the balconies , nearly lost interest in the build , later on who know's

steve5

Looks good Steve , do you plan on adding the 2 additional gun chaser ports?

Michael D.

got some old PE and some tube styrene ,made a rudder hinge , look's alright to me , now to have a proper go .

Steve,

Certainly no need to apologize.

I just wanted you to know that I'm not in any way, shape, or form a guy who can speak knowledgeably about ships or ship rigging. I just grope around and try to find books that I hope will help me. BTW, even if Michael gives you all the information you need to get past the lateen yard and rigging, the book you've ordered may still come in handy both for the remainder of the rigging you have to do and for other ship kits you might get around to - assuming they're ships to which the title of the book refers.

mike , I apologize mate , I just know you study thing's better than my slap dash approach .

the bloke I am trying to imitate , michael , is nearly finished his beautiful model , and is hopefully going to share some of his photo's , of the lateen rigging , for me . which will be a god send . especially the dimension's of the yard .

Steve,

You said about the book you ordered ... "...,on 1943mike's word,..."

Well, I'm sure as heck no expert (or even a novice) on rigging. The reason I bought the book was because I thought I'd best learn a thing or two about rigging before attempting the same kit you're building. One person on FineScale mentioned the book a few times so I went ahead and bought it. I'll give you three guesses as to who that person was ....

Page 11, 8th post:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/146977.aspx?page=11#1800045

Fifth post down:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/p/125856/1264977.aspx#1264977

16th post down:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/p/106591/1055113.aspx#1055113

thankyou michael , that would be greatly appreciated , I have ordered james lees the masting and rigging of english ships of war , on 1943mike's word , he e-mailed me some pic's from the book , got it at a good price , but it will take about 3-4 week's to get here . still got a lot to do on the poop deck , and the , not sure what you call it , where the boat sit's , have to make the beam's for it etc , but any help you can give , I will most certainly take mate .

steve5

Hi Steve,

Have you've made any headway on the Lateen yard yet mate?, I can post up some pic's of mine IE: dimension of the yard, rigging and belaying points etc if that would help?. Let me know.

Michael D.

bob 

cheer's mate

steve

thankyou , for the kind word's 

mike

thankyou too my friend , but I think that sail configuration didn't come in till around 1780 , I'm after the extended lateen sail set-up

this picture is off of a french 74 , the haliard's are on both side's , can any one tell me the difference's , between the english and french type's please . do the haliard's run only on one side ,? do they run to mizzen mast ,? if so where ? , any help will be greatly appreciated , guy's

Turning out to be a wonderful build Steve. I'm so happy I can view your hard work and see what can be done with the kit. Just outstanding.

At the risk of being sued for copyright infrigement, I'm going to post three 1/2 leafs (in other words .. three pages )  from McGowan's book on HMS Victory. I hope they are of some use to you.

Edit (4/3/18) : Since they're of no use to you because I'd forgotten you're building her as she looked in 1765 I've taken down the images.

I'll send more images from another book to you via your own private email.

Steve,

I know I’m sounding repetitive here but I love the work you’ve accomplished so far. This is going to be one awesome model when you’re done. Thanks for posting the progress, I really appreciate it.

Steve

Excellent craftsmanship!

I will be following with earnest.

still some touch up work to do , but getting there .

thankyou bill , it help's a lot .

It’s a Lateen Mizzen.

The line from the top to the end of the yard is a peak halyard.

The line to the bottom end of the yard is the bowline.

Missing from this drawing are all of the lines attached to the sail. Primary would be the sheet, attached to the bottom corner, or clew, of the sail. It’s a double block line. It might run from a boom kin sticking off the stern, up to a block at the clew, back down to the end of the boomkin, through a block and over the stern rail to a pin or cleat.

When the ship tacks, either of two things happen. If it’s a long tack, the sail gets brailed up tight against the yard. The bowline gets detached. The peak halyard hauls the yard to as vertical a position as possible.

The bottom end of the yard gets worked around the back of the mast, the bowline gets reattached and the peak halyard gets loosened so that the yard can set on the leeward side of the mast, the sail unbrailed and set on the new tack.

Or on a short tack, the ship simply tacks and the sail bears against the mast in a “bad tack” until the next tack, where whatever side of the mast the yard is on is once again to leeward.

On a big ship like Victory that would be common. Otherwise it might take 30 or 40 crew to do the operation. It’s not so much a driving sail as a steering sail.

Hope that helps.

thanks guy's , appreciate the comments . slowly but surely .

can any one , please name the yard on the mizzen mast at 45 degree's , with the lifting rigging on the end ,I want too look up the rigging plan to it , but I don't the name . any help please guy's .

Hey Steve, I was thinking about you yesterday and this build. I was wondering how things are going. Now I know. Looking good sir.

Cheers.

Steve

Steve,

She's looking great so far. The seams are a minor issue that are easily correctible.  It's an impressive conversion!

Bill

I had to have a bit of a spell from this build , was going nowhere in a hurry , having another go , this where I'm up too . still rough and ready , but at least I am progressing .

just came across this little gem for doing rat line's , not only keep's the line's straight but stop's the wine glass effect , so simple , but genius .

https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/14818-rat-line-tension-tool/

docidle

It looks impressive Steve! I know you’ll figure it out. And you had an offsite backup for your computer ... correct?

Steve

 

It looks impressive Steve! I know you’ll figure it out. And you had an offsite backup for your computer ... correct?

Steve