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Classic Aviation GB 1903-1938 (Feb 5-Oct 31, 2010)

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Classic Aviation GB 1903-1938 (Feb 5-Oct 31, 2010)
Posted by Aaronw on Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:33 PM

Welcome to the classic aviation group build highlighting the first 35 years of heavier than air powered flight. It is scheduled to run from Feb 5th, 2010 through Oct 31, 2010.

 

The GB is open to all aircraft military or civilian that first flew between 1903 and 1938.

This is an active period in aviation history beginning with the Wright Brothers first flight on Dec 17, 1903, and ending with the Spanish Civil war. Along the way the first airlines were established, aircraft were used to assist exploration, and aviation exhibitions became popular many based around prizes sponsored to promote advances in aviation.

 

 

The Rules

 

If the type flew between Dec 17, 1903 and Dec 31, 1938 it qualifies.

For aircraft flown as a prototype in 1938, but not accepted for service during that year, the first* major production version adopted will be allowed.

The focus is on the aircraft designed and built during this period, not when they were used so the date of markings is not important. As long as the aircraft meets the requirements of the build it is ok to build it during a later period. A Gladiator flown in the defense of Malta during 1940, a P-36 of the Argentine Air Force in 1954 or a DC3 still flying passengers in the 1980s would be fine assuming they are still true to their original form (no turbo prop conversions etc).

 

Post photos of your progress, details about the history of the aircraft, tips, overall impression of the kit etc is encouraged. Started kits are acceptable as long as you still have a fair amount left to do. Crossovers from other GBs are acceptable as long as you keep up with both builds. 

 

* As some aircraft had many minor modifications during the production run resulting in a change in designation there is some wiggle room for "first". An example being the B-17, the type was ordered in 1938, but the A model was only one aircraft. The B model arrived in 1939 so in this case the B-17A and B would be considered acceptable, I might even accept a C since it was a minor change from the B and occured within the first 100 aircraft to roll off the line.  

 

Group build badge may be added when you start building. I've made up 3 to offer some variety in subject, but feel free to use the badge of your choice regardless of the type aircraft you are building.

 Please copy the badge you choose and add it to your own hosting site.

 

Participants

 

Aaronw - Matchbox 1/72 Armstrong Whitworth Siskin III

               - Matchbox 1/72 Fairey Seafox 

              - Revell 1/72 Fokker DR1

Wirraway - Fokker DVII or Dornier DO-X

Thehannaman2 - Fokker?

satch ip - P-26

jeaton01 - ?

M1carbine - Tamiya 1/48 Brewster Buffalo F2A-2 (completed)

Konigwolf13 - Trumpeter 1/32 Swordfish

B17Pilot - Hobbycraft 1/48 Piper Cub

ww2psycho - Tamiya 1/48 Messerschmitt Bf109E 

Jmart - Hasegawa 1/48 Bf109 E-3 Spanish Civil War

Hughes2682 - Wingnut 1/32 Junkers J.1

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Posted by Aaronw on Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:34 PM

Inspiration for possible subjects

 

 

Military

 

Mexican revolution 1910-1917

World War 1 1914-1918

Russian Civil War 1918-1922

Third Anglo-Afghan War 1919

Russo-Polish War 1919-1920

Turkish War of Independence 1919-1922

Irish Civil War 1922-1923

Chinese Civil War 1927-1937

Sino-Soviet conflict 1929

Japanese invasion of Manchuria 1931

Columbia-Peru War 1932-1933

Chaco War (Bolivia-Paraguay) 1932-1935

Second Italio-Abyssinian War 1935-1936

Spanish Civil War 1936-1939

Second Sino-Japanese War 1937-1945

Soviet-Japanese border wars 1938-1939

 

 

Events in Civil Aviation

 

The first scheduled airmail service is established in the UK during 1911.

 

U.S. begins airmail service in 1918.

 

In May, 1919 NC-4, a U.S. Navy Curtiss flying boat becomes the first aircraft to cross the Atlantic.

 

In June, 1919 British pilots John Alcock and Arthur Brown fly a modified Vickers Vimy from England to Newfoundland becoming the first to fly non-stop across the Atlantic.

 

U.S. Transcontinental airmail service begins in 1920.

 

In 1925 Roald Amundsen uses flying boats to explore the North Pole.

 

In 1927 French WW1 ace Charles Nungesser disappeared over the Atlantic while trying to fly non-stop from Paris to New York.

 

In 1927 Charles Lindbergh becomes the first pilot to fly non-stop from New York to Paris.

 

In 1927 US airmail begins to be delivered by contracted private air services following a law passed by Congress in 1925 to encourage commercial aviation.

 

In 1928 three aircraft are used during Byrd's expedition to Antarctica. A Ford tri-motor is used to fly to the South Pole.

 

In 1928 an Australian Charles Kingsford Smith and a crew flying a Fokker Tri-motor become the first to cross the Pacific Ocean flying from Oakland, California to Brisbane, Australia. He continued the flight with a replacement crew becoming the first person to circle the globe by air. He later disappeared over the Indian Ocean while trying to break the speed record from England to Australia in 1935.  

 

In 1932 Amelia Earhart becomes the first woman to fly solo non-stop across the Atlantic. She disappeared in 1937 while trying to fly across the Pacific Ocean.

 

In 1938 Douglas Corrigan becomes the first pilot to fly non-stop from New York to Ireland. He did not have permission from the US to make the flight and gained the nickname Wrongway Corrigan after claiming he got turned around in the fog ending up in Ireland instead of Los Angeles. 

 

 

Races

 

Schneider Trophy - held 11 times between 1913 and 1931

 

Pulitzer Trophy Race (various locations in the US) - Held annually 1920 to 1925

 

King's Cup Race (Cross country race in the UK) - started in 1922

 

Dole Air Race (California to Hawaii) - One race in 1927, of the 11 competitors, 2 crashed before the race, 1 missed the start due to mechanical problems, 3 failed to complete the flight and 3 disappeared.

 

Western Australian Centenary Air Race (Sydney to Perth) - One race in 1929 celebrating Western Australia's centennial.  

 

Thompson Trophy (various locations in the US) - started 1930.

 

Bendix Trophy (California to Ohio or New York to California) - started in 1931.

 

MacRobertson Air Race (England to Australia) - One race in 1934 celebrating Melbourne's centennial.

 

 

Airlines

 

KLM - established 1919

SCADTA (Avianca) - 1919

Qantas - established 1920

Mexicana - established 1921

Czechoslovakia Airlines (Czech Airlines) - established 1923

Imperial Airways (British Airways) - established 1924

Western Air Express - established 1925

Northwest Airways (Northwest Airlines) - established 1926

Pan American Airways - established 1927

Tulsa-Oklahoma City Airlines - established 1928

Delta Air Service (Delta Air Lines) - established 1928

Transcontinental Air Transport - established 1928

Eastern Air Transit (Eastern Air Lines) - established 1930

Transcontinental & Western Airways (TWA) - established 1930

Braniff Airways - established 1930

American Airways (American Airlines) - established 1930

United Air Lines (United Airlines) - established 1931

Air France - established 1933

Trans-Canada Air Lines - established 1937

 

 

Aircraft

 

1910-1919

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Aircraft_1910-1919

 

1920-1929

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Aircraft_1920-1929

 

1930-1939

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Aircraft_1930-1939

 

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Posted by Aaronw on Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:35 PM

Completed builds

M1carbine - Tamiya 1/48 Brewster Buffalo F2A-2 (page 2)

 

Hughes 2682 - Wingnut Wings 1/32 Junkers J.1 (page 9)

 

B17Pilot - Hobbycraft 1/48 Piper Cub (page 11)

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Posted by B17Pilot on Friday, January 29, 2010 2:44 PM

My Piper Cub is a 1/48 kit from Hobbycraft

  

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Posted by Aaronw on Friday, January 29, 2010 4:28 PM

Thanks, fixed it.

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Posted by ww2psycho on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 7:19 PM

I just got Tamiyas 1/48 Messerschmitt Bf109E-4/7 TROP. Would it work for this? I know the 109 flew in the spanish civil war.

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Posted by Aaronw on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 7:55 PM

The Me-109E entered production in 1938, so that should be fine.

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Posted by Aaronw on Friday, February 5, 2010 6:11 PM

Well today is the 5th so here we go. I'll be starting with the Matchbox 1/72 Siskin III.

The Siskin was one of the first RAF fighters designed after WW1. It served with the RAF from 1924 to 1932, and a small number were used by the RCAF from 1926 to 1939. It was also the RAF's first all metal fighter.

One bummer with this kit is one of the landing gear struts is missing. Luckily is doesn't look like it will be too hard to fabricate a replacement. I guess that is just one of the hazards of building a kit that has been rattling around someones stash for a couple decades.

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Posted by M1Carbine on Friday, February 5, 2010 11:22 PM

Well gents...here it is the 5th and that means that it is time for the building to begin, so here are some of the shots so far of the F2A-2;

 

Tiny

 

Well that be all till tomorrow, Ill have some more done then.  I cannot believe how simplistic this old Tamiya kit is, I should have this wrapped up maybe by Sunday night........LOL

 

Bob

 

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Posted by Aaronw on Friday, February 5, 2010 11:38 PM

Whats the little wheel?

 

M1Carbine

Well that be all till tomorrow, Ill have some more done then.  I cannot believe how simplistic this old Tamiya kit is, I should have this wrapped up maybe by Sunday night........LOL

 

Bob

 

 

Kind of nice though to actually get something done that quick though now and then isn't it. Big Smile

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Posted by ww2psycho on Friday, February 5, 2010 11:53 PM

I'll do my best to build the 109 for this build. I have other projects going on too that i'd like to finish before it but we'll see what happens. I cant really post pics of the inside detail becuase my camera gets fuzzy at close distances so pics will be after the fusalage is together.

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Posted by M1Carbine on Friday, February 5, 2010 11:54 PM

I am assuming its a trim wheel.

 

Bob

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Posted by M1Carbine on Saturday, February 6, 2010 9:59 PM

Ok, I got some more done, here is some more shots. 

The model is ole enouogh that the IP is void of detail, I put it in with trying to et the white dial effect:

That failed so I found to P-47 Stencils in my stash, the pak contains 4 sets of everything so I took one of the IP decals and stuck it in there just to have something:

After that I was able to get the fusalage halves together, filled and checked with a silver sharpie:

I was also able to get the winge assembled:

I may get some more done this evening, dont know yet.  There really is nothing to this kit.......LOL

Bob

 

 

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Posted by M1Carbine on Monday, February 8, 2010 12:40 AM

Good evening gents.  I spent just about all day at the bench since early this morning and have wrapped up for the evening with the F2A.

Completed the initial painting this morning:

 

Got the cowling painted as well

 

Finally I started to get some decals on:

 

Thats all for this evening.  I may wrap the build up tomorrow or the next day but Ill have some more progress shots later.

 

Bob

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Posted by Aaronw on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 3:35 PM

Wow you are just flying through that kit, the cockpit looks great too, a lot more detailed than I expected from your earlier comments.

My Siskin is not progressing nearly as well, but I think I'll have some progress shots tonight.

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Posted by M1Carbine on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 4:53 PM

Aarnow - thanks.  not much to the kit, I dont theres even 30 parts now that I look at it..............LOL.  Ill have the finished photos up this evening........Just realized...I dont think we have a group build badge yet.

 

Bob

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Posted by Aaronw on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 6:11 PM

Guess I better get on a badge, I didn't expect anyone to be done so quick. Smile

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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 7:05 PM

Hello Aaron!!! Glad to see this GB kick off!!! I am not committing to any GB's at the moment until I finish one I am in and progress much farther in another and .......well if I can I will add one in here. If I can I would do the Airfix 1/72 DH.88 Comet from the MacRobertson Air Race as Black Magic.

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Aaronw on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 7:11 PM

The DH.88 would fit right in, let me know if you are able to squeeze it in and I'll add you to the list. 

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Posted by M1Carbine on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:15 PM

Ok Completed:

Sorry about the shots, something is up the the digital camera. 

Well there you have it Tamiyas oldie but goodie F2A-2 Brewster Buffalo in 1/48.  A fun little build, a little void of detail being so old but it still went together better than some modern kits I have put together.

 

Bob

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Thursday, February 11, 2010 8:26 PM

Bob that looks great!!! Well Done!!!! So it may be devoid of a bit of detail, if it goes together well and you enjoyed the build then that more than makes up for it with a finish like that!!!! Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by M1Carbine on Thursday, February 11, 2010 8:33 PM

Thanks Simpilot, I appreciate the comments.  That little bugger was a joy :)

 

Bob

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Posted by Aaronw on Friday, February 12, 2010 12:58 PM

Nice job on the Buffalo, I never realized how much canopy that thing had.

 

Keep an eye out for a badge, I'm going out of town this weekend, but hopefully will have whipped up something by the end of next week.

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Posted by ww2psycho on Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:28 PM

I got some work done on the 109 this weekend. Being sick and single helped with having nothing to do the past few days. The cockpit is all together and I'm hoping to close up the fusalage before work tomorrow. I dont know how much more work will get done this week since I work 2pm to 10pm (I never seem to be able to get used to these hours to get something productive done the weeks I work them). Next week is first shift so that will help. I will try to take pics before I close it up.

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Posted by simpilot34 on Monday, February 15, 2010 12:07 AM

ww2psycho

I got some work done on the 109 this weekend. Being sick and single helped with having nothing to do the past few days. The cockpit is all together and I'm hoping to close up the fusalage before work tomorrow. I dont know how much more work will get done this week since I work 2pm to 10pm (I never seem to be able to get used to these hours to get something productive done the weeks I work them). Next week is first shift so that will help. I will try to take pics before I close it up.

Eats

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by ww2psycho on Monday, February 15, 2010 11:49 AM

Woo hoo! no work today! anyhow here is the best pic I could take with my camera of the cockpit. Nothing exceptional, this is only my second aircraft i'm going to complete. I'm not familiar with aftermarket parts so this entire build will be OOB. Comments welcome, bad or good, we can only get better right?

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Posted by simpilot34 on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 3:37 AM

That looks very nice WW2!!!!!! Well Done!!Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Aaronw on Friday, February 19, 2010 6:38 PM

Looks like the 109 is off to a good start, looking forward to the rest of it.

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Posted by JMart on Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:19 AM

Would like to join in…. will take me a bit to start, have a few kits in the queue already : )

M1/Bob – Nice job on the F2A-2 ; have that one in my stash , nice enjoyable quick build. Cheers!

I would like to build the Hasegawa 1:48 Bf109 E-3 kit #9601 - Spanish Civil war markings.

This web link has a list of all aircraft that took part in the Spanish Civil War:

http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/spain/did.html

Here is a complete list of the Bf 109s who flew in the SCW:

http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/spain/bf109.html

Several Emils saw action in the SCW.

(That web site is a GREAT source of modelling information for the SPC).

Look forward to this GB, cheers

James

 

 

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Posted by Aaronw on Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:24 AM

James, I've got you added to the front page.

Thanks for the links, the Spanish Civil War is really interesting when you look at the range of aircraft used, biplanes still made up a major part of most air forces, but modern monoplanes were clearly showing where things were headed. 

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