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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:24 AM

It's not the plane trip so much. There's a protocol for "unaccompanied minors". It takes a little pre-arranging, is all. So don't be afraid of that, in other circumstances it works fine.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:21 AM

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Only if you want your children on the back of a milk carton. I can't believe in this day and age someone would even ask a question like this.

 

 

I couldn't agree more. You're a grown man, you should know better than to ask. Tell both of them your concerns and make them come down to see the kids themselves instead. Sounds like they're both nut cases who can't get their own life in order.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, April 30, 2016 12:45 PM

Hi;

    Well , I used to travel alone by train between 10 and 14 . Never had a problem . Years later I figure I had an unseen chaperone. After all it was 1953 .I wouldn't send my Grandchildren two Blocks on a city bus , much less on planes where we don't know if the pilot broke alcohol and sleep rules and on the other end , Disaster ! . I would advise against it .  T.B. 

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Posted by midnightprowler on Saturday, April 30, 2016 7:07 AM

Only if you want your children on the back of a milk carton. I can't believe in this day and age someone would even ask a question like this.

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Posted by castelnuovo on Saturday, April 30, 2016 1:00 AM

I have flown alone in my early teens, and even younger, localy and internationaly...back in '70-es and before cell phones talking driveres. My parents would put me on the plane and my relatives or friends would pick me up.

Your relatives are a dissaster waiting to happen. I work in a hospital and see the crap that happenes with distracted drivers, cyclists who "knew how to asses the traffic" so they didn't wear helmet etc. Your kids are worthmore then the 400 bucks and their time away won't be at all relaxing for you knowing to whom you are sending them. Don't do it...

 

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Posted by Nathan T on Friday, April 29, 2016 11:20 PM

Hell even I'm too scared to fly commercially and I'm a commercial pilot. I would never consider this senario for my 9 year old/6 year old...

 

 

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, April 29, 2016 10:20 PM

Well... the tribe has spoken. Don't do it. Too many red flags....

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Posted by Greg on Friday, April 29, 2016 8:40 PM

What everyone else said.

But you have an uphill battle with your boss, bosses mom and sister planning this thing.

Your only way out of this whilst keeping the peace might be to offer to go along with the kiddies. I'll bet that'd put a damper on the whole thing pretty fast, Chris. 2 cents

 

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Posted by fox on Friday, April 29, 2016 8:06 PM

Too many concerns all the way around Chris.  I'd say no.

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Posted by Cobra 427 on Friday, April 29, 2016 5:28 PM

Well, when in doubt - DO find out! I think that you already have, and that you have answered  your own question. If your mom is having siezures, and driving, that alone should tell you that this is simply a recipe for disaster! Even if she takes medicine it's no safe bet. Your Auntie is no better for the wear if she too is a risk, and no amount of money can bring back your loved ones no matter how much hindsight you experience in your life! Just know this: today is a much more hostile, agressive, and unwelcoming world than it was when we were all kids. Terrorism is on the rise, people are just so damned rude, and stupidly so, and the unknown is so well, UNKNOWN, and therefore untrustworthy!

What's more important; your kids, an unused $400.00 plane ticket, or a lifetime of "what if?"(regret) that could've been, or knowing that your kids are safe at home? What does this all mean? It means that if you're asking yourself about this, then you already know that the answer is a resounding NO! DON'T DO IT!!! Remember when Nike had that idiotic slogan "Just do it!"? You can now see what  a hell of a mess that happens when you "just do it!".  Which is why this world is in such a state of discontent, and torment, and unhappiness.

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Friday, April 29, 2016 4:16 PM

If you end up not doing it, and can transfer it, might check to see if any of the area "Honor Flight" groups can use it before it expires. 

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, April 29, 2016 3:06 PM

Take it from a retired police officer. With all the things I have seen, I would NEVER let my kids travel alone and unprotected. And as for the family care on the other side, too many issues to deal with. Better safe than sorry. 

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Posted by Cdn Colin on Friday, April 29, 2016 2:59 PM

That $400 credit could end up costing you a lot more than it's worth.  Do Grandma and Auntie know your concerns?  Do they care?  I don't think your issue has anything to do with concern over their flying alone.  Could anyone else you know use the credit?  Could it be donated to someone who needs a flight somewhere?

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Posted by patrick206 on Friday, April 29, 2016 2:53 PM

Short and to the point response. How would you feel if the kids were entrusted to someone that you have legitimate concerns about, then something terrible happened???

Too often, completely unintentional accidents do happen to folks that are not being deliberatly careless, even worse, some people are just an accident looking for place to happen.

Health issues, texting and driving, anorexia seizures controlled by meds, what could possibly go wrong?

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, April 29, 2016 2:41 PM

When I was 12 I spent the month of December in Norway with a friend of mine from school, also 12; at the family of a foreign student that my own friends family had hosted the year before. Back in the early 60's.

After a couple of weeks we got to fighting, young boys and all. So to separate us, the family bought me a five day ship ticket on a coastal steamer up to the Arctic Circle, to Trondheim, train return to Oslo. They owned the shipping line so I suspect they had someone keeping an eye on things.

I had a blast, shared a cabin with some of the hands, got to watch freight and mail be loaded/ unloaded several times a day.

When I was back home, I couldn't wait to tell my mom all about it while driving home from the airport. She nearly drove off the road.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Friday, April 29, 2016 2:32 PM

I don't have kids,but I wouldn't do it.

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Posted by hogfanfs on Friday, April 29, 2016 2:20 PM

I won't even leave my 10 yo and 7 yo at home alone, let alone put them on a commercial aircraft. I would say no, granted, I know my wife would agree with me.

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Posted by goldhammer on Friday, April 29, 2016 2:02 PM

Sounds like a disaster in waiting with the aunt, and grandma has her own issues to work through. I'll agree with G, a little too young IMO, and that is even if the airlines would let them go un-accompanied in this day and age.

I was around 13-14 when I went from Reno to Chicago to visit with all of Mom's sisters and families for a month.  Was a great adventure, but was 3-4 years older than your oldest, and was 60 years ago in a different time

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, April 29, 2016 1:54 PM

I've been through all of that, too.

 

IMHO they're too young, even without the potential problems listed.

 

I can guarantee that you and the Missus will not be "de-stressing" while they are gone.

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Posted by templar1099 on Friday, April 29, 2016 1:47 PM

IMHO, too many issues out of your direct control. When in doubt,don't.

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Kids flying cross-country alone
Posted by dirkpitt77 on Friday, April 29, 2016 1:42 PM

So, my wife and I have two kids--a 10yr old daughter and a 7yr-old son. I've been a stay-at-home dad with them almost all of their lives so far, while my wife works. They went to a normal preschool and elementary and still do. Wife is 39, I'm 44. This is all for context.

We've come into possession of a $400 airline credit that we need to use by June. My wife's mom who lives in AZ, and my wife's sister have offered to take our kids for a week in Tucson, if we fly them there and back. The goal being to allow my wife and I a week to ourselves. A de-stresser, of sorts.

The problem is, grandma has an eating disorder. She is 67 or so and an extreme vegan. She weighs less than 80lbs and eats very little. It's gotten so bad it's causing her other health problems, notably seizures and heart problems. She refuses to admit she has a problem and drove with a seizure disorder for 3 years. She only just this year finally got cleared by a doctor to drive, after being put on meds.

The sister (kids aunt) meanwhile, is constantly texting and driving. In 2012 while on vacation in Moab, I caught her texting and driving in Canyonlands National Park, on those twisty roads, while she had taken my daughter for the day. 

My wife and the two ladies above say it'll be a big adventure for the kids, and an opportunity for them to do some growing on their first long trip without parents around. The kids will be fine, they say. I, on the other hand, do not trust grandma or auntie to have good judgement, as obviously they've dropped the ball so far. It IS true that the kids usually do get to do a lot of cool things with grandma and auntie. In fact, my daughter hiked to the bottom of the Grand Canyon and back a couple years ago. Granted, Auntie was there for that too and almost had to be carried out.

I've made my position clear, but they still talk as if it's going to happen. I feel like that week will be more stress on me than if the kids stayed here.

 

I guess I was just wondering if anyone else might have some wisdom or insight, and if I'm making the right call. Confused

 

Thanks,

 

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