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Posted by navypitsnipe on Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:18 PM
Honestly surprised that nobody guessed Enterprise. On to you
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Posted by subfixer on Sunday, September 27, 2009 6:43 AM
This is to resurrect this quiz. Surface Line; it's your turn to ask a question.

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Posted by Surface_Line on Sunday, September 27, 2009 10:39 AM

Sorry for the delay.  Here's the best I can do:

Name three country's navies that US Coast Guard ships have been transferred to.  (Your answer may be better than mine)

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Posted by subfixer on Monday, September 28, 2009 6:47 PM
I know the USSR got several, but I haven't got a clue where the others went. Vietnam, maybe? Perhaps Mexico? I do think that South Vietnam might have received some cutters. Mexico is a pure guess, they seem to get a lot of our surplus.

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Posted by Felix C. on Monday, September 28, 2009 7:12 PM

Press release from the HLS website indicates 29 countries have received exUSCG vessels since 1997

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Posted by subfixer on Monday, September 28, 2009 7:36 PM
 Felix C. wrote:

Press release from the HLS website indicates 29 countries have received exUSCG vessels since 1997

Name three and the question is yours, Felix.

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Posted by Surface_Line on Monday, September 28, 2009 7:37 PM

HLS...  hmm.  Tell us three of those specific countries and you're all set.

 

And what is HLS?

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Posted by subfixer on Monday, September 28, 2009 7:47 PM
 Surface_Line wrote:

 

And what is HLS?

Harvard Law School? 

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Posted by Felix C. on Monday, September 28, 2009 8:01 PM

Homeland Security

Colombia 2007

Ecuador 1998

Mexico, Peru, Cuba post war '83footers. But do not know if that is too boat size to qualify

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Posted by jtilley on Monday, September 28, 2009 9:21 PM

I'm probably too late, but I'll say the Soviet Union (the Wind-class icebreakers during WWII), South Vietnam (the 83-footers), and Israel (the Northland - which became the first ship of the Israeli Navy.  Just what the Israelis needed:  and icebreaker.)  Maybe two of those answers don't meet the criteria, in that the ships that went to the USSR came back, and the Northland wasn't actually, legally, formally transferred.  She was disposed of, and turned up running refugees to Palestine; then somehow ended up in the service of the Israeli government.

Boy, there would be an interesting model - or two, or three.  She was built with a huge, two-masted square sail rig, and wound up her USCG career in WWII with 1940s equipment and the gear to operate a Grumman Duck.

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:56 AM
 jtilley wrote:

I'm probably too late, but I'll say the Soviet Union (the Wind-class icebreakers during WWII), South Vietnam (the 83-footers), and Israel (the Northland - which became the first ship of the Israeli Navy.  Just what the Israelis needed:  and icebreaker.)  Maybe two of those answers don't meet the criteria, in that the ships that went to the USSR came back, and the Northland wasn't actually, legally, formally transferred.  She was disposed of, and turned up running refugees to Palestine; then somehow ended up in the service of the Israeli government.

Boy, there would be an interesting model - or two, or three.  She was built with a huge, two-masted square sail rig, and wound up her USCG career in WWII with 1940s equipment and the gear to operate a Grumman Duck.

Indeed and the research will commence.

Easy first pic from wiki:

Just to set the flavor of the times:

Israel bought four B-17s through proxies, three of which made it home after various stops through Central America. Also, the very familiar S-199s (Czech Me-109s) that were crated and shipped in Central American registered C-46's into the country.

Here's a good linky:

http://www.jacksjoint.com/cutter_northland_at_war.htm

 

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Posted by Surface_Line on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:29 PM

Felix,

If you're happy with them, then it's OK with me.

I was thinking about larger ships, so I had in  mind England [ten 250' Lake class cutters], USSR [Icebreakers Northwind(I) and Westwind] and the USA [various, including icebreaker Southwind, postwar transfer to USN, other than wartime standard transfer of control to USN]

 Felix, you got it, with your HSL reference.  (I always thought that was a Light Anti-submarine helicopeter squadron, but what the heck.)  Well done!

Rick

 

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Posted by Felix C. on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:37 PM

I will have to pass. I re-read the question and it said ships. A boat can be carried on a ship, so the '83 do not qualify. I only scored 2 out of 3.

Too bad, I had my question ready but rules are rules.

 Again, I think I did not answer the question.

HLS not HSL.

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Posted by Surface_Line on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:39 PM

:-)

Please- go for it Felix!  We need a new questioner here, really bad.  

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Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:15 PM
 Felix C. wrote:

I will have to pass. I re-read the question and it said ships. A boat can be carried on a ship, so the '83 do not qualify. I only scored 2 out of 3.

Too bad, I had my question ready but rules are rules.

 Again, I think I did not answer the question.

HLS not HSL.

The USS Cole is a ship and look at her:

Now go ahead and ask the next question Felix, Please!

 

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Posted by Felix C. on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:19 PM

Heh, Heh, I did think about heavy-lift ships and floating dry docks would require a modification in the definition. But I found it:

Colombia, Ecuador as stated and S.Vietnam to Phillipines in 1985

Question:

Last or most recent surface warship sunk by surface gunfire alone by another warship. 

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Posted by subfixer on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:32 AM
Might it have been the Tamil Tiger Matsuseema sunk by the Sri Lankan navy on 7 October 2007?

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Posted by Felix C. on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:38 AM

Sorry no. I do not believe the Mat... qualifies as a warship. Have read it referred to as a cargo ship.  That is why I used the legalize in "surface warship sunk by ..."

 

 

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Posted by subfixer on Friday, October 16, 2009 7:29 AM
bump

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Posted by oceano75 on Friday, October 16, 2009 9:30 AM

Sorry to be late, but as to the previous question... Dr. Tilley mentioned S. Vietnam received USCG 82s.  S. Vietnam was also given several of our 311' HECs, the old Navy AVPs that we got from them after WWII.  Also, Russia gave all of our breakers back after the war.  England kept the 250s and Nam kept the 311s. 

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Posted by oceano75 on Friday, October 16, 2009 9:39 AM
As to the current question, N. Korea lost a patrol boat to S. Korea back in 99, but there has to ne something more recent.
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Posted by Felix C. on Friday, October 16, 2009 1:16 PM

Does a patrol boat count as a warship? I was seeing it as actual warship dimension vessel. A warship has to be 145' or so otherwise it is a boat. I recall that was the case with the SGBs of WWII, initially numbers as boats then renamed as ships due to discovering the met the size criteria.   

Difference between boat and ship. What are the rules, does one answer the question if no replies and post another?

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Posted by oceano75 on Friday, October 16, 2009 1:42 PM
Still searching - again the 2 Koreas at each other.  A S. Korean patrol boat was sunk by N. Korean gunfire in 2002.  I agree a "patrol boat" may not be a "warship".  You know the answer you have in mind.  Is it before or after 2002?
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Posted by Felix C. on Friday, October 16, 2009 1:54 PM

Yes, it is prior to 2002.

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Posted by oceano75 on Saturday, October 17, 2009 3:18 PM

OK - Let's bracket this.

The last true surface action in WWII saw the American DDs Ashburne, Braine, Shaw and Russel sink the Japanese DD Hinoki in night action on 7-8 January 1945.  After tha there were several skirmishes between PT boats and patrol boats, but nothing as large as a DD was ever sunk.  So the last DD or larger size ship sunk in WWII was the IJN Hinoki on 7-8 January 1945.

The incident you have in mind occurred before 2002.  Did it occur after 1945? 

 

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Posted by Felix C. on Saturday, October 17, 2009 4:13 PM

Sorry it is after 1945

Question:

Last or most recent surface warship sunk by surface gunfire alone by another warship

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Posted by RickF on Saturday, October 17, 2009 6:01 PM

I don't think the question restricts us to combat situations. There have been a lot of surface warships sunk as targets over the years since 1945. The difficulty is discovering one that was sunk by gunfire from only one ship as opposed to several.

Rick

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Posted by Felix C. on Saturday, October 17, 2009 6:13 PM
Combat only
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Posted by ddp59 on Saturday, October 17, 2009 9:52 PM

april 1988 U.S.-Iran Gulf Battle

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/04/24/world/us-iran-gulf-battle-powerful-lesson-in-how-naval-warfare-has-changed.html

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Posted by Surface_Line on Sunday, October 18, 2009 1:09 AM

Normally I would refrain from commenting on another person's answer, but this action was the first thing I looked at when the question was raised.

As near as I can tell, here was happened in Operation Praying Mantis, on Apr 14 1988.  There were three Iranian surface combatants sunk - Joshan, Sahand and SabalanJoshan was sunk by Standard MR-1 missiles in the surface to surface mode from Wainwright (CG-28) and Simpson (FFG-56), and Sabalan and Sahand were sunk by bombs from A-6s from Enterprise.  That part is referenced from "Electronic Greyhounds", by Michael C. Potter, and it fits with my memory.

There was much, much 5" ammo expended during the operation, which was all from the DesRon 9 ships firing on the Iranian oil platforms with reckless disregard of the fact that they had zero resupply of 5" ammunition in theater.  The Commodore encouraged his commanding officers to continue firing at the platforms in an effort to "destroy" them.  This is referenced from my experience at the Ordnance Logistics office stateside, where resupply of 5" ammunition needed to be sent out to the Indian Ocean immediately from the West Coast.

And neither the missile fire or the bombs on the Iranian ships, nor the gunfire on the Iranian oil platform constitutes an answer to this question, so I did not offer this operation as a solution to the question.  I'm still interested in hearing what the last sinking by gunfire was. 

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