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  • From: Melbourne, Australia
Posted by darson on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:36 PM
Bandha I forgot to mention, you are a braver man than I am. If I used my daughters Play Doh for masking they would have my guts for garters.

Darren
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  • From: Melbourne, Australia
Posted by darson on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:52 PM
Hi Roosta, I can't remember exactly how much I paid from DixieArt, but I can check when I get home tonight. They did ask me to confirm the order (inc shipping) via email, which was a feature, I really liked. Overall they were great to deal with and I would buy from them again anytime. The only slight negative was that they don't exactly move with the speed of a thousand startled gazelles when responding to emails.

Sushi, rule No1 when using pastels is to make sure you have chalk pastels, not the oil type. Oil pastels don't work all that well on a model (don't ask how I know this Big Smile [:D]).
For me I use the combination of techniques to weather my models.
1. Paint, using various shades of base of the base color and post shading the panel lines to give a worn or used look.
2. A gloss clear acrylic topcoat, Tamiya Clear, Pledge One Go or Future.
3. Decals
4. A second gloss clear acrylic top coat over the decals
5. Oil wash using artists oils thinned with white spirit (turpenoid to the yanks) in the panel lines
6. A clear flat topcoat, Pollyscale clear flat is my weapon of choice here.
7. Pastel chalks for panel coloring and staining, exhaust stains and gun stains.
8. Final flat coat.
There wasn't that easy Smile [:)]

Cheers
Darren

Check out the following articles:
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2001/01/stuff_eng_tech_panel_lines.htm
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2003/02/stuff_eng_tech_detergent_wash.htm
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2004/05/stuff_eng_tech_pastels.htm
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/tnt1/001-100/TNT043_oil-wash_Johnson/tnt043.htm
http://www.tamiyausa.com/articles/feature.php?article-id=29
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:41 AM
Can anyone give me any helpfull advise on weathering technics. I've bought some pastel chalks for the project, do I need anything else ? Will the chalks do the panel lines or is a wash better ? If you use both technics which is first ,the chalks or the wash?

P.S Finially bought the new Hasegawa Frank 1/32 yesterday , can't wait to start it must buy that airbrush
Thanks Sushi



























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Posted by Bandha Boy on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:15 AM
That's the brush I got. Are you going for the medium tip? I got mine form Bear Air & shipping was ~$40 although I did get a bunch of other goodies included in the package (hoses, quick-release attachments, paints, cleaning brushes, etc).
Carl
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 3:27 AM
I've decided to go for a Badger 100LG Medium instead, now i've just got to decide where to buy it from
Bear Air or Dixieart.

Darson how much shipping did you pay from dixieart, and did they ask to confirm your order inc shipping?

I already know bearair does that so I'm trying to figure out which one will be cheaper to ship to me in tassie.

Also is there anything else I should get with it?
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 11, 2005 6:59 AM


Thanks Carl

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QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison

QUOTE: Originally posted by sushi

Where do's everyone get there cool signatures, and how do you put it on your profile

Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D] Sushi

sushi The sigs in my profile represent the group builds that i have been in or am still inThumbs Up [tup]
If you join the 2005 Aussie Gb then you get the badge in your sigBig Smile [:D]
Oh by the way The wavy aussie flag is a free for all for any aussie on this site......
To put it into your sig you need to go into your profile and copy the URL into your Signature......Note for graphics it has to go in to the text and graphics Sig......
This is the URL for the Aussie flag........


The [ img ] before the url and the [/ img ] after the url have no spaces in between the brackets, iv'e added the spaces so you can see it, if i close the spaces you get this.....

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Posted by Bandha Boy on Monday, April 11, 2005 5:42 AM
Some progress pics on the Mirage. Just painted the camo on the weekend. Apologies for the crappy pic quality. This is SAAF scheme. The Eduard guide has sand + earth but every reference pic I could find had sand + green. This is just painted, no weathering or clear coats yet.

Masked up with Play Doh. Not a good idea in retrospect as the SAAF camo is too busy for this technique. I was tempted to leave it like this as a work of art.



The proboscus is quite a detailed shape & I got sick of the kit part breaking off so I put some brass rod in a Dremel & turned one out. Quite pleased with myself on that one. (I don't like adding them later as smoothing the joint stuffs up the paint job.)
Carl
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  • From: Melbourne, Australia
Posted by darson on Monday, April 11, 2005 1:05 AM
ROOSTA, I don't want to enter the great which ab is better debate, but as a former Aztek owner I wouldn't get one again. These airbrushes are nowhere nearly as bad as some people make out, but IMHO you would do better going for something like a Badger, Paasche, Iwata, Olympus, Tamiya (rebadged IWATA), etc, etc... My 2 cents [2c]

BigKahuna, I bought my Iwata from Dixieart in the US. The price (even including the shipping) was significantly cheaper than anything I could get here in Aus. I think from memory I paid all up, around $250 for mine with some extra bits thrown in. This was about $100 cheaper than I could find the same ab here.

Bandha, I had a happy shipping experience as well the other day. I bought the AMTech Folke Wulf Ta-183 from Squadron for $39 Aus (including shipping) and it arrived on my door only four days after I ordered it Thumbs Up [tup]

Sushi, when adding images to your sig don't forget to look at the guidelines for sigs which appear as a sticky in a few of the forums.

Cheers
Darren
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  • From: Perth, Western Australia
Posted by madmike on Saturday, April 9, 2005 7:29 AM
Nenad

Give Jackson's in Perth a call

cheers

Mike
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 8, 2005 4:30 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by sushi

Where do's everyone get there cool signatures, and how do you put it on your profile

Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D] Sushi

sushi The sigs in my profile represent the group builds that i have been in or am still inThumbs Up [tup]
If you join the 2005 Aussie Gb then you get the badge in your sigBig Smile [:D]
Oh by the way The wavy aussie flag is a free for all for any aussie on this site......
To put it into your sig you need to go into your profile and copy the URL into your Signature......Note for graphics it has to go in to the text and graphics Sig......
This is the URL for the Aussie flag........


The [ img ] before the url and the [/ img ] after the url have no spaces in between the brackets, iv'e added the spaces so you can see it, if i close the spaces you get this.....
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 7, 2005 6:02 AM
Bandha boy ( Carl)
Just had to say love the girrafe pop up always makes me laugh ,well done Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]

Sushi
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  • From: Australia
Posted by Bandha Boy on Thursday, April 7, 2005 5:12 AM
Oz Distributers:
http://www.anest-iwata.com.au/default.htm
They're helpful but expensive.

Here are the links to a couple of the better web suppliers who will ship direct:
Bear Air:
http://www.bearair.com/products.asp?dept=1091&pagenumber=3&sort_on=&sort_by=

Dixie Art
http://www.dixieart.com/Dixie_Art_Supplies_Airbrush_Main_Page.html

The Peak is made by the same place that makes Iwata & is apparently a terrific airbrush. Concerns would be that parts can only be obtained from Bear Air, no local distributers.
Carl
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 7:19 AM
Where can I get the Iwata Eclipse here in Perth?
And how much does it retail for?

I heard it's the bee's knee's of Airbrushes.

Cheers
Nenad

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Posted by Bandha Boy on Wednesday, April 6, 2005 6:42 AM
Try Bear Air for airbrushes. Shipping is not the cheapest but it works out to be very competitive with local suppliers & you can include some extras that aren't available here. I've always found them excellent to deal with. Excellent range incl. Badger, Iwata, Aztec, etc & their own Peak brand. http://www.bearair.com

On the shipping topic, I recently got a shipment of resin & decals from Meteor & the good thing about them was that they shipped US Post, so it was only $8.50 shipping rather than $40 or $50. Still took only about a week to reach me.
Carl
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 5, 2005 9:04 PM
Hi guys,

I'm looking at buying my first airbrush, I'm looking at fronline hobbies atm, I want something at around the $150-$180 range for the airbrush and $100-$120 for a cheap compessor.

I see the Aztec 470 AZT-4704G model is $150
or theres the
Paasche H or
Paasche VL

or maybe I could pick one up from ebay or even an overseas store?

Can you get a cheap compressor from Kmart for these?
Let me know what you guys think
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 4, 2005 5:52 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Bandha Boy

QUOTE: Originally posted by sushi

Question [?]
What would you use for aerial lines in 1/32 scale,and how would you attach it to the plane.


Red Roo have this great stretchy stuff called EZline, the premium arial gear as far as I can tell. Comes in several colours & a reel is a bit pricey but will last.

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] Karl Thats the stuff i useThumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by Bandha Boy on Monday, April 4, 2005 4:29 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by sushi

Question [?]
What would you use for aerial lines in 1/32 scale,and how would you attach it to the plane.


Red Roo have this great stretchy stuff called EZline, the premium arial gear as far as I can tell. Comes in several colours & a reel is a bit pricey but will last.
Carl
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 3, 2005 6:06 PM
QUOTE: Shane. In the 1960's I served with the Army Cadets whilst at school and then with the CMF (ARES) as a Tpt Driver in the RAASC before seeing the light and enlisting in the RAAF in 1969. I served with the RAAF in until 2002 when I reached retirement age.

[bold]RAASC!!!![/bold] Your tag line makes more sense now Wink [;)].

Cheers
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 3, 2005 7:56 AM
Question [?]
What would you use for aerial lines in 1/32 scale,and how would you attach it to the plane.

Thanks SushiBig Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 2, 2005 11:34 PM
Where do's everyone get there cool signatures, and how do you put it on your profile

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  • From: South Australia
Posted by South Aussie on Saturday, April 2, 2005 1:24 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by outback

Quick question to all, how many current and / or ex Servicemen here. I'm ex Army and got into building models as part of a lifetime interest in all things military.

Cheers
Shane


Shane. In the 1960's I served with the Army Cadets whilst at school and then with the CMF (ARES) as a Tpt Driver in the RAASC before seeing the light and enlisting in the RAAF in 1969. I served with the RAAF in until 2002 when I reached retirement age.
Wayne I enjoy getting older, especially when I consider the alternative.
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Posted by South Aussie on Saturday, April 2, 2005 1:14 AM

Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to the Aussie Modellers thread, Dave, Darrin and Stephen it good to have you join us.

Darren: I see that you were asking about compressors in another thread, I fully agree with you proposal to chase one of the home workshop types, it a better invesment that a hobby type. If you haven't purchase one yet check out Kmart or bunnings hardware, they usually have them for around $100, dónt forget to get a moisture trap also. I have used Aztec airbrushes now for quite a few years and am quite happy with them, but airbrushes are like any other tool you need to find one that suits you and develop the technique to use it to your satifaction.

QUOTE: Originally posted by tweety1

Ok, I admit I have been slack in not checking out this thread of late (insert severe, tongue lashing here!).
But the number of Aussie modelers really has hit a high point from where I'm sittingBig Smile [:D]Approve [^]

I'll get round to making a head count one of these days, gotta be close to a total takeover!!!!!Wink [;)]Tongue [:P]


Like you Tweety, Ashamed [*^_^*]Ashamed [*^_^*]I've been slack but its been the whole forum just not the Aussie modellers threadAshamed [*^_^*]Ashamed [*^_^*]Ashamed [*^_^*]

As for the head count I gave up a long time ago - we just keep growing in numbers.
Wayne I enjoy getting older, especially when I consider the alternative.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 1, 2005 7:47 AM
Hi all .now that I've opened that can of worms ( air-brush's ) debate I've been browsing the technical forums. Really appreciate the advise from some of you on this forum ,thanks guys
Darren at the moment I'm about to start a Doyusha George 1/32 scale .but want to buy myself a airbrush first .Cool [8D]

SushiBig Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 1, 2005 7:21 AM
Hi Mad Mike

No I'm not part of any club, hope you had a graet Easter

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Posted by Bandha Boy on Friday, April 1, 2005 3:03 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by outback
Tks for the info on the BMC. Maybe someone could be a collection point and ship them over via Herc. I'm sure the RAAF would oblige. I'd be happy to but in about a week I'm homeless and on the road for about a year.


My cousin's kid flys herc's w. the regular trip over there. He's training in the US at present but could be a possibility for some courier service.
Carl
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 1, 2005 1:01 AM
I'm not in the Regs, ARes or GRes, however I'm in the Australian Army Cadets at the moment as a Cadet Under Officer. Looking to perhaps join the Army next year as a helo pilot.
Cheers,
John
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  • From: Alice Springs Australia
Posted by tweety1 on Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:32 AM
Ok, I admit I have been slack in not checking out this thread of late (insert severe, tongue lashing here!).
But the number of Aussie modelers really has hit a high point from where I'm sittingBig Smile [:D]Approve [^]

I'll get round to making a head count one of these days, gotta be close to a total takeover!!!!!Wink [;)]Tongue [:P]
--Sean-- If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, what happens???
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:50 PM
Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]No Mad Mike I.m not a member of any club
Originally posted by madmike

Hey Sushi

Another Perth modeller!!

Welcome Smile [:)]

I use either a Aztek A470 double action or a Modelmaster S1000 Single action and am happy with both so far, although I am considering saving up and getting an Iwata in from the USA ro see if Jacksns import them.

Sushi, are you a member of a local club at all?

No Mad Mike I'm not a member of any club

Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:57 PM
QUOTE: Shane I know this probably doesn't count but I was in the ARES Engineers for six years back in my younger days.


I served in both ARES (2 years) and then Regs (Sigs for 10). I'd count ARES. Especially these days.

Tks for the info on the BMC. Maybe someone could be a collection point and ship them over via Herc. I'm sure the RAAF would oblige. I'd be happy to but in about a week I'm homeless and on the road for about a year.

Cheers


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  • From: Melbourne, Australia
Posted by darson on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:27 AM
Wow [:0] I leave the place for five minutes and come back and find Aussie Modelers everywhere. Great stuff.

Stephen, William & Darren Sign - Welcome [#welcome] all of you to the FSM forum

Stephen, please feel free to drop in and check out the Battle of Britain Group Build currently underway in the Group builds section. There has been some excellent work done by some great modelers there. If you can catch up to him, ask Tweety to show a pic of Bf-109, it's awesome.

Shane I know this probably doesn't count but I was in the ARES Engineers for six years back in my younger days.

On a more serious note
I was flicking through the May Edition of FSM which arrived today when I noticed the following statement from the guy running the Baghdad Model Club. He said "Interestingly I have noticed that Australian soldiers make more models than any other group, and they prefer WWII tanks". I haven't thought much about donating a kit or two until now, but after reading that I'm sure going too. If anybody else is interested in sending something over the details are as follows:

Ken Richards
Baghdad Model Club
KBR - ISG APO, AE 09342

They ask that you send a name and an email address so that the soldiers can say thanks.

Cheers
Darren

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