Aussie Modellers

Jules, I built that Lotus several years ago. Its a beautiful kit. I just added the plug leads, made up a fine mesh cover for the trumpets and did the brake lines. Remember its NOT British Racing Green, Tamiya do make the correct green for it so don't be tempted to use their BRG. Several years ago FSM had an excellent article on the Honda which spelt out a number of relatively straightforward detailing some of which could be applied to the Lotus. Have fun

Aahhhh i just got online and now i have to go KIDS KIDS KIDS gotta love em....

Be back later.........Jules

Just got my goodies pack from Eduard. I got the detail set for the 1/48 Bf109-G10 (Hasagawa) I'm soon to start on & I have to say I find it pretty intimidating. I've done a little with etched brass before but this detail set must have a hundreds pieces, many of them incredibly fine & small. Any tips for bending etc will certailnly be appreciated.

I also spoilt myself & got their Mirage III plastic kit. Unfortunately no Aussie decals, but it looks lovely. Confused about the instrument panel. Front panel with the instrument holes is ok, panel behind that with the dials etc is ok, but there is a film which seems to replicate the back panel & will just obscure the dials if installed at the front as per the instructions, & then a decal which seems to be the same thing. Are these alternatives or is there some mystical system here that I'm not seeing?

Carl

I tried different masking tapes, and Scotch tape also, just couldn't get it to work for me, about the only thing that does is the BMF. Have no idea why.

Jules, spraying the outside of the canopy huh?
Hmmm, didn't even cross my mind
Well, that will save alot of time huh!

South Aussie, thanks for the heads up on the Excpo, my Dad is down there ATM for surgery, so maybe he can check it out.

Just a reminder to those that may be in the Adelaide area this weekend about the South Australian Scale Model Expo at the Centenary Gym, Christian Brothers' College, 214 Wakefield St Adeliade. The Expo will be open from 11am to 4 pm on Saturday and 9am to 4pm on Sunday. More info can be found at http://www.gumnut.net/sapma/expo

QUOTE: Originally posted by s3053396 j.s.harrison hope thatb they are useful. luke it looks like I'm conveting the wingy thingly mob. Who knows what eill happen next. Cheers Trev

Trev, well maybe converting is a little too strong a word wingy thingys are still my prime interest, but there's something that's just cool about racing cars, especially the older ones.

G'day Luke, you're right in between all the aircraft and tanks it looks like a couple of cars might get built.

Cheers
Darren

j.s.harrison hope thatb they are useful. luke it looks like I'm conveting the wingy thingly mob. Who knows what eill happen next.

Cheers Trev

hey guys

just passing through and thought I'll say hello!
I haven't read all the posts but it seems like some sport cars are on the drawing boards.

To mask the canopies I prefer to use the opaque Scotch Tape. This is cheap and very effective way of doing it. I use it in the same manner that Tweety uses the BMF. The only drama I have ever had is that fro some reason it does, on the odd occassion, leave adhesive on the canopy. This is easily removed though by pressing scotch tape on it several times.

Trev mate thanks for the links,Great pics

No racing harness "Thats just plain Stupid" but it makes it a little easier and cheaper for the modeller....
Looking at the rear springs i've decided to hack , file and sand the cast on spings off the shockie and wrap fuse wire around it instead.......

Tweets thanks again mate that sounds a whole lot easier than my normal method, not to mention quicker, imagine cutting tiny peices of Tamiya 10mm tape and placing them on the canopy, 4 peices of tape inside each panel and 1 more to cover the middle, the canopy of my 109 took 3 hours to mask..........
Just a thought..........instead of masking the inside of the canopy have you ever considered painting the interior colour on the outside first and then painting the outside colour over the top, might save a little time, or is it one of those Sabre things again

Once again thanks guys for all the advice, every model i do is getting better and better and i have you fellas to thank for pointing me in the right direction.....

Muchly appreciated Jules.......

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison Thanks Tweety i duuno what to do at the moment cars are territory to me mate... I like the BMF idea it sounds cool, especialy for masking canopies, i used Tamiya 10mm for my 109 canopy and i was never happy with the finish........ So how about a quick rundown on masking a canopy with BMF, with the 10mm Tamiya tape i cut small pieces to fit, 4 peices of tape per panel.....Jules..

Well, firstly I dip the canopy in Pledge One Go, don't know if you use this stuff, but it's worth the effort.

Then, grab some BMF foil, I prefer to use the Chrome stuff, it's easiest to see the 'frame' outlines with Chrome, and cut a strip maybe 2.5mm larger than the section you plan to mask.

Where possible, I do 1 window section at a time, but on a 109G-6 canopy for instance, it would be easier to do 1 side of the canopy at a time.

Lay the BMF onto the canopy, and using a cotton bud, smooth it down, as you go you can see the 'framing' start to show through the BMF.

When the BMF is all smoothed out onto the canopy, get a toothpick, and sand one side down so it's nice and flat, and sand the other end to a round dull point.

Go over the 'frame' outlines with the toothpick, alternating between the flat and round ends so the 'framing' stands out enough for you too see it, and in the case of recessed framing like on the 109G-14 I'm doing now, use the flat end to press the BMF into the recess.

When all the above is done, grab a knife, and start tracing the frame work.
Instead of using the standard No 11 blade, change to a smaller one, it helps when going around corners etc.

DO NOT apply pressure, the weight of the knife is more than enough!!!

When done, lift a corner of the BMF and slowly remove the foil, any areas that the knife didnt cut can be pressed down with the toothpick again and cut again.

After all is said and done, one more gentle rub over with the cotton bud, and you now have a canopy ready for painting.

After painting, a quick and light pass with the knife again around the masked sections, and remove the foil.

You cant ask for a crisper canopy frame, and the only down side is the time it takes to mask off.

Doing the inside of canopies is a little trickier, as you have to cut freehand, tracing the canopy frame.
Hard to do, but do-able all the same.

Thats the quick rundown, thank God I didn't type the extended version!!

Actually, might put this in the Techniques section too, may save some people from chunky canopies

Wow, those are an awesome set of photos, thanks Trev.

Can you imagine racing in any of those cars at the speeds they got up too without seatbelts, flame resistant clothing, oxygen bottles, crash cells, ete,etc...

Darren

This could be of help.

Cheers Trev

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tweety1, your to kind. The pix of the serria will get here, but they won't set any speed records on their way. lol. j.s.harrison, you shouldn't haveto many problems with the lotus kit. Ihaven't personal built it by it is from tamiya. So at worst it will be equal to the best of AMT or Revell. As to the seatbelts I'm not to shore. I'II have a look around for you.

Cheers Trev

QUOTE: Originally posted by darson QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison Well i got it....... As you can see there's not that much to it (thankfully) and i can't see building it to be a problem but there are some things i'd like to change.... Firstly Darson is right the Chrome has gotta go, i don't think it will suit the car, the rear springs i also want to change to metal ones and the clear part that goes over the injectors has to be replaced with some pe mesh or something, and lastly i'm gonna want a racing harness in it........... So here's my first how do you remove the chrome.......Jules...... Jules, Check with Trev, but I don't think from what I read I don't think that those cars actually had a harness I totally agree with you on everything else, I had planned to scratch build the rear springs, ditch the injector cover completely and then add a little wiring to make it look good. There is a beautiful picture of the rear of a slightly later Lotus at ALCLADs web site, check it out at http://www.alclad2.com/alclad-home.html I am going to re-apply some chrome to the roll bar, rear view mirrors and exhaust pipes etc, but the chromed plastic just looks too toy like. To remove chrome off styrene is easy, all you need is a container, protective gloves, an old toothbrush and some Easy-Off Oven Cleaner. ***WARNING DO THIS OUTDOORS*** Place the sprue or chromed parts to be stripped into the container (I use an old Ice Cream container) Fill the container with enough oven cleaner to completely cover the sprue. Leave for about 15 mins Remove the sprue (the chrome should be gone) wash it in warm soapy water and scrub it with the old toothbrush. That's it, the chrome is removed and the styrene is untouched. If you don't trust this or would like to give it a test run, use an off cut of sprue first. Cheers Darren

Darson tup] thanks mate for the site, it's hard to beleive that one was a model, i don't think mine will turn out that goodbut i have the pic saved for future reference..
I think i'll add a few wires here and there myself , also some brake lines
And tar for the rundown on stripping the chrome i'll give it a go but i think i'll use testors enamel MM paints, i think i'll enjoy building this one, to bad i won't be starting it until the middle of next year but wingy thingy's need to be built first......
Cheers Jules....

QUOTE: Originally posted by j.s.harrison Well i got it....... As you can see there's not that much to it (thankfully) and i can't see building it to be a problem but there are some things i'd like to change.... Firstly Darson is right the Chrome has gotta go, i don't think it will suit the car, the rear springs i also want to change to metal ones and the clear part that goes over the injectors has to be replaced with some pe mesh or something, and lastly i'm gonna want a racing harness in it........... So here's my first how do you remove the chrome.......Jules......

Jules,

Check with Trev, but I don't think from what I read I don't think that those cars actually had a harness

I totally agree with you on everything else, I had planned to scratch build the rear springs, ditch the injector cover completely and then add a little wiring to make it look good. There is a beautiful picture of the rear of a slightly later Lotus at ALCLADs web site, check it out at
http://www.alclad2.com/alclad-home.html

I am going to re-apply some chrome to the roll bar, rear view mirrors and exhaust pipes etc, but the chromed plastic just looks too toy like.

To remove chrome off styrene is easy, all you need is a container, protective gloves, an old toothbrush and some Easy-Off Oven Cleaner.

***WARNING DO THIS OUTDOORS***
Place the sprue or chromed parts to be stripped into the container (I use an old Ice Cream container)
Fill the container with enough oven cleaner to completely cover the sprue.
Leave for about 15 mins
Remove the sprue (the chrome should be gone) wash it in warm soapy water and scrub it with the old toothbrush.
That's it, the chrome is removed and the styrene is untouched. If you don't trust this or would like to give it a test run, use an off cut of sprue first.

Cheers
Darren

Thanks Tweety i duuno what to do at the moment cars are territory to me mate...

I like the BMF idea it sounds cool, especialy for masking canopies, i used Tamiya 10mm for my 109 canopy and i was never happy with the finish........

So how about a quick rundown on masking a canopy with BMF, with the 10mm Tamiya tape i cut small pieces to fit, 4 peices of tape per panel.....Jules..

Ok, Trev, ta for the info, and I still reckon your the car guru.
BTW, when do we get to see the sierra???

Darson, many thanks for the Vampire info, have been wanting one of those in 1/48 for years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for stripping the chrome Jules, well, you can paint it over for starters.
There is always the 'scraping' method, little tedious though.
I'm sure Darson will let you know, but personally I wouldn't try using Alclad on such a small item.

Bare Metal Foil would be my first choice.
Wouldn't have to strip anything then, just apply over the top.
It's good stuff, I'm using some to mask the canopy of my 109!!!!

Well i got it.......





As you can see there's not that much to it (thankfully) and i can't see building it to be a problem but there are some things i'd like to change....
Firstly Darson is right the Chrome has gotta go, i don't think it will suit the car, the rear springs i also want to change to metal ones and the clear part that goes over the injectors has to be replaced with some pe mesh or something, and lastly i'm gonna want a racing harness in it...........

So here's my first how do you remove the chrome.......Jules......

Oh don't worry Trev, i've jumped at the oppurtunity to get it and by tomorrow i'll own a Lotus coventry climax .......
Darson the alclad11 thing sounds like a cool idea so hurry up and finish it will ya, so i can copy, when it comes to cars i'm kinda

Hi all,

I've been spending waaaaaay to much time in the GB forum at the moment, so I thought pop in and see what is happening.

Speaking of wheelie things I have the Tamiya Lotus 25 Coventry Climax which has been in my "to do" pile for ages now. Unfortunately I have only gotten as far as stripping the chrome off the various sprues. I plan to re-do these in a couple of different ALCLAD shades which I reckon will look a lot better.

Chris, congratulations on your wedding the move into your new house. I hope the new boss is used to the smell of glue, thinner & resin

If anybody is interested, Classic Airframes have announced the release of a 1/48 vampire. The kit comes with decals for a couple of RAF birds and one from the RNZAF. This is supposed to be the first release in a series of vampires, here's the link http://www.classicairframes.com/newproducts.htm

Cheers
Darren

j.s.harrison, it sounds like you have premision from SWMBO. Take the chance while you can. lol ." i saw them advertised in TMMI magazine". Is that the Tamiya magazine? tweety1thanks for the nice comments about being a model car gur, I think that's going a bit far. Nice throught thro. As for a mclaren M4/19 you may be able to convert either the tamiya for revell kit to those specs. Or you maybe able to get on from Studio 27,etc. it would be expensive but.

Cheers Trev

{#ditto] Tweets way to many ferrari's, as much as i like the F1's it does get a little predictable Ferrari 1st and Ferrari 2nd.......

Chris congrats on your marriage now you have to ask for permission to buy a model aswell
So now your'e all settled are ya gonna be pulling the old corsair out of storage....

Well i told the Wife i wanted to build a couple of old F1 cars and she actually thought it was a good idea "better than all those stupid planes" she said.....
....Jules....

QUOTE: Originally posted by ChrisJH666 So what's new JS??? Finally got moved to our lovely new house ( with pool!!! ), and done the wedding thingy too,so now maybe I can find the odd moment to get back on here from time to time!!!!!

Good point Chris, seems Jules is never NOT in trouble for something

Congrats on the wedding Chris, so when do you get parole???

Trev, you may not be too clued in with the wingy thingys, but you are definately the model car guru!

I really want someone to make a kit of the McLaren 4/19, but I cant see that happening anytme soon.

I would like too say now, I am sick to death of all the Ferrari kits floating around, and if Mercedes had gotten their together from the start of this season, Schumi and Kimi would be neck and neck for the championship!!!!

So what's new JS???

Finally got moved to our lovely new house ( with pool!!! ), and done the wedding thingy too,so now maybe I can find the odd moment to get back on here from time to time!!!!!

Thanks for the link Trev, yep the ones that i want are there, the Lotus 25 Coventry Climax
and the Honda F1 RA272, but i also like the Williams BMW F24..........
Oh well looks like the Missus is gonna be pissed at me......

Tamiya have the 1/20 Williams BMW Fw 24 clear view is a really nice kit. It is the one with the P/E, white metal fuel tank and brake calipers, C/F decals. this version is for the Italian G.P. It retails for between $80 to $85 AUD. Their is also a staraight out injection moulded kit for between $50 to $60 AUD. I don't think it has the C/F Decals. It is for the German G.P. The difference in the 2 is the wings. tweety1 tamiya did release an mclaren from between 98 to 00 but i have not seen one for a few years, their is all so a 97 Mclearn done by revell germany. In regards to 60's cars tamiya have done a honda which done the 67 USA G.P and their is a lotus. Their is also a tamiya kit of the Willams Fw 07 which is the car that Alan Jones drove to his world championship in the B variant in 1980. Hope this is useful. The below site has detials about these kits

Cheers Trev
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/plamo/index_e.asp?Bno=&Typ1_c=102

Hmmmm, getting scary Jules.

Have been looking at the Williams F1 car for a while now, trying to pluck up the courage to show the missus (read-shadow treasurer)

I'd prefer to do the Mclaren, but havent actually seen a kit based on it.
Or maybe I haven't looked hard enough!

Trev i am actually planning on building a couple of F1 cars in the not to distant future i hope, one modern one and an older one 1960s style i think, i saw them advertised in TMMI magazine.......Jules.......

QUOTE: Originally posted by harvs73 Would anyone like to try to model this 2 OCU acft?

The 2OCU boys would have loved that, that type of problem usually means an engine stripdown at the least after the got rid of the bees.

Must be something about bees and aircraft engines for at Laverton in the early 80s they found a complete and active beehive in an engine of one of the old A model Hercs that had been stored there pending disposal.