Aussie Modellers

J.S.

The gloss black was the Xtra Colour brand, as that particular Mustang was a test bed for testing different theories of paint application, in mixes and mediums.

Rob.

Lobbie a question mate,what sort of gloss black did you use before applying the alclad.
Ishould be getting mine from Snowy Mtn Models this week although i wont be using straight away because iv'e just joined a SUB GB and my choice is the Revell 1/72 type V11c U-Boat which has to be finished by the end of August.After that it's the CAC SABRE.

Tweety is the Hind one of the ones the Russians used in Afganistan.
I knoe nothing when it comes to choppers,apart from the recent Aussie builds the rest of my kits are mostly Luftwaffe Heres just a few.

6 ME 109's
2 FW 190 D9's
1 ME 262
1 ME 210
1 HE 219
1 DO 335 the list goes on all are unfinished most are still in the box.

Thanks for that j.s., muchly appreciated.

As for the Hind, it's the A version.

And have just found out that there is a window missing, on the port side.

Apparently it's not something any kit manufacturer has included, so next time I'll have to wack one in!

Ok Tweets heres the pics you asked for.





[PS]Like your hind mate iv'e never seen that version before.

Guy's;

I posted in the sticky for those doing the Group A cars of Bathurst some info that could help.

Rob.

Tweety1

The alclad finish on the Mustang, the Grey Primmer was the Tamiya spray can, then covered with the Gloss Black then the Aluminium. with Tamiya acrylic smoke highlighted.
Both of these models have the cuffed prop, not the paddle type prop, as there both based on the P-51k version of the Mustang, with and without shrouded exhausts

Hope it helps
Rob

Thanks for that Lobbie.

When you used the Alclad, did you use they Grey primer, Black Gloss, then Alclad finish?
Or was it just Gloss and Alclad finish?

Tweety1

The Korean era Mustang is finished in the Alclad Paint and highlighted with Tamiya smoke. The WW II era is finished in Tamiya AS-12

Rob

I think everyone has to agree, the Mustang is a very sexy looking craft.

What does it for me, is at the fuselage/wing root, the bit that slopes back at a 23 degree angle.

So sleek.
Lobbie, is that model finished in Alclad, or just a plain aluminium finish??

j.s., thats a cool idea.
I reckon a powered version would be better, faster wind up

My wife just looked at the pic, and said "Awwwwwww, thats cruel!"

But yes, I love cats.
Cute and fluffy, great night time companion, all your black clothes also look like cats.

And the best part,
THE TASTE LIKE CHICKEN!!!!!

On a side note, heres a pic of a Hind I finished in 1 week for the Hind GB.
I thought the finish date was 1st June, man did I get that one wrong.

Had to use my broken Aztek brush to do the camp freehand, cause my aOmni still isn't working right.




And now a couple of touch-up jobs, total strip and respray for the P-38J, finish the Corsair, hopefully all in time for me to order my Sabre, and hopefully enough cash leftover for a Mustang.

Tweety1 i'll post the pic's of the Highplanes CAC Sabre conversion for you tomorrow,sorry i'ts taken all week i've been working on the c/pits of the spitfires so i can post a progress pic in the GB.
Hey tweets you like cat's dont you.I do and i always want to take our cat out with the family on our outings but he won't walk on a lead,so when i saw this i just knew it was for my cat.
If you love your kitty as much as i love mine you have to get one.



Cat Carrier it puts the fun back into walking the cat

Guy's
This should help answer the questions, Tweety1 raised.

Rob.

Rob - give me til Saturday. I'll head down to the big smoke (aka Perth) to see if the model is still there. If so I'll pick it up, if not . . . back to the drawing board!

Guy's,

The RAAF Boston III's that 22 Sqn had flown in the early years, these two side view shots of my completed A20a Boston III model is for you to use as a refference to your own Boston projects. The A20a has the cooling slots in the cowlings and no tropical filters are fitted, the A20c does not, have the slots in the cowlings but is fitted with the tropical intake filters, but both types have the single exhaust outlet.
All the Boston aircraft that 'Bill' Newton flew were the 'A' model Boston III's, the subject depicted is the aircraft in which 'Bill' Newton flew on the mission that he was awarded posthumorously the Victoria Cross. The aircraft he flew on the mission of his capture was A28-3.

Luke, If you intend to build your's, the main undercarrage legs have to be moved 1/4 inch forward.

I hope I've helped a little
Regards
Rob.

Have a great holiday South.

And Chris, first internet cafe you see, you'll be in there checking us out.

I'm going to be offline for a few weeks! The computer gets packed today

But once I get back online, I'll be an Aussie!!!

Stone the crows!

Thanks snowy that's all ill need. much obliged.And thanks again for the PSP info Snowy Mtn Models is mail ordering me some.

Chris i'm doing the FAA version so i don't want the RNZAF decals so their all yours just Email me your postal address and i'll send them.

South a holiday,whats one of those. ENJOY.

j.s. my scanner is SNAFU at the moment but the colour scheme consists of Olive Drab (ANA 613) and Sea Grey (ANA 603) upper surfaces and Light Grey (ANA 602) under-surfaces. (Similar to the Boomerang style camo in Chris' signature pic with feathered edges). The spinner was painted red (no ANA spec). The rudder was painted RAAF Ensign Blue (no ANA Spec) with the Southern Cross constellation on it. Try this link, www.kitparade.com/features00/p51dbg_1.htm for a look at Brett Green's model of this aircraft.

Cheers...Snowy

Have fun Wayne!!

Just to let you know that I probably won't be heard from for the next three weeks (I can feel the withdrawl symptons now). going on holidays. First to Canberra for the ATCSMS Comp (got one fiqure to enter, not the one I intended to enter, didn't get it finished. Then on to Sydney, if Im lucky I might be able convince son in law to stop playing games and let me use his computer to check in on the forum.

Glad you could fill in some of the gaps there for me lobbie! Thanks. However, although the Zuccoli CA-19 originally was restored with modified T6 wings, these were replaced by the first set of the four sets made as part of Matt Dennings project. Apparently this made a marked improvement to the handling. I also suspect this was what provided the motivation for its repaint into its present colour scheme, though this is just supposition.
I was surprised to hear -25 is owned by Dick Hourigan, though I have seen a photo of him in which the caption states he is a Boomerang owner. According to the Australian National Aviation Museum at Moorabin on their website, this was recovered by "Hawker de Havilland Victoria" in 1986, and donated by them to the museum in 1994. Obviously there's a gaping hole somewhere in my understanding of the situation with that one.
A46-30 is certainly not listed on the Point Cook website so I suspected that it may have been in storage. They did however manage to wheel it out for the recent Point Cook airshow to stand beside "Suzi Q". It's a shame that its original restoration was not as good as it looks.
Whilst looking for a site I had seen before with a full history of -30 however, I came upon the following on http://www.kiwiaircraftimages.com/boomer.html:

Although A46-30 was for many years the sole example of the type, the Boomerang has made a comeback in the past 20 years. A number of restoration projects has seen the number of almost complete examples expand rapidly in the past few years, with many more as long term projects. Currently the only airworthy example is A46-206 VH-BOM (more on this below), but three more examples are progressing toward airworthiness in Australia: A46-117 registered as VH-ZOC by Alan Arthur of Mathoura, NSW in February 2001, A46-122 registered as VH-MHR by Matt Denning of McDowell, QLD in November 2001, and A46-54 which Greg Batts of Brisbane has in hand (registration VH-MHB reserved). Another example, A46-165 is under restoration to airworthiness by Kermit Weeks in Florida. Other museum exhibits, projects, and partial survivors include A46-3 (South Australia Aviation Museum), A46-25 (Moorabbin Air Museum), A46-47 (Darwin Aviation Museum), A46-55 (R. Lee), A46-67 (C. Jamesson), A46-77 (G. Batts), A46-92 (R. Provan), A46-101 (D. Baxter), A46-124 (Darwin Aviation Museum), A46-142 (D. Brown), A46-144 (L. Long), A46-166 (D.Brown), A46-174 (K. Weeks), A46-249 (R. Hourigan).

I guess the Boomerang isn't doing so badly for a plane of which only 250 were ever made!
As for the Lancer pic, any chance I could beg a copy? The only pic I have is the one in "RAAF Camoflage and Markings 1939-45", which just shows the underneath of one wing! Fat lot of use that is!! If anyone else reading this has any info on the RAAF P43 Lancers, it would be greatly appreciated!

ChrisJH666,

This is the CA 12 Boomerang A46-30, it is not outside the hanger at RAAF Base Williams Museum at Point Cook, but at the rear of the CAC factory in Port Melbourne, this is the only colour wartime photo I have of the Boomerang, the other are just plan black and white, there A4 in size, I have a photo of the P-43 Lancer also.

Regards
Rob.

G'day ChrisJH666,
A46-25, is owned by Dick Hourigan, who incidently is the owner of the Mustang CV-P, Judy Pay has a half share and flys this aircraft at airshows.
A46-30, has been placed in storage at Point Cook and is not on public display
A46-122, is the aircraft that Matt Denning now flys
A46-144, Malcolm [Lionel is his eldest son] Long owns this aircraft which is planned this aircraft is to fly again, he also owns the L.Hudson that flys in the markings of 2 Sqn RAAF. His other L.Hudson is on static display at what used to be Driages Airworld in Wangaratta
A46-206, Janet Zuccoli's aircraft, is called the 'Millingimbi Ghost' this is not a true Boomerang, the fuselage is a composite of 5 other aircraft, the wing is from a T-6 and modified to fit the Boomerang, this was the first such aircraft to fly in this Country some 20 odd years ago, the late Guido Zuccoli, spent 15 years scrounging airframes and parts, for this aircraft. He is also responsible for the ex Iraqi Sea Fury's to be imported to Australia, before his death he flew a Sea Fury in the markings of RANFAA Squadron aboard HMAS Sydeney, Bruce Andrews aslo flew a Sea Fury which was in the overall Dark Blue scheme with a white 115 as it number, sadly this aircraft was sold to the U.S

Hope this helps.
Rob.

Thats great JS!! Thanks for the pic. If you can spare the RNZAF decals, lets cut a deal!!!!

Further to surviving Boomerangs, I've done a spot of research and found seven of them:

CA-12 A46-25 Part restored fuselage only Moorabin Air Museum
CA-12 A46-30 Restored to static display RAAF Museum Point Cook
CA-12 A46-54 Under restoration by Greg Batts at Hendra
CA-13 A46-122 Airworthy Oakey Army Air Museum (or at least thats where it was Nov!)
CA-13 A46-144 Under restoration to ground running condition by Lionel Long
CA-13 A46-165 Under restoration as part of Kermit Weeks collection in US
CA-19 A46-206 Airworthy, Zuccoli Collection Toowoomba

Apparently there's another one out there under restoration too but I couldn't find it, and there are a number of recovered parts form other examples

Folk's,

The CA-15 'Kangaroo' is available as a resin kit from one of those Eastern European Countries, it's a 72 scale and not very detailed. The CA 15 is nothing like a Mustang, with exception of the wing profile, tailplane and a similarity in part of the fuselage, it was powered by a Rolls Royce Griffin, it had a top speed of 721 KPH. Compared to 636 KPH of the CA 18 Mustang, with it's Packard Merlin.

I've read with interest about the different types of aicraft the RAAF flew during the war both within and outside this Country, only a hand full have been mentioned, we flew 72 different aircraft types between '39 and '45 and at the end of the Pacific war this Country had at that time the 4th largest airforce. Two of these were prototypes the CA-4, CA-11 two versions of the Woomera and the CA-15 Kangaroo.

Rob.

Snowy the decals i have are for the same unit but i don't have any references on the A/C colours,any chance of seeing that photo.

Tweety parts fit eh,i've only dry fitted a couple of the parts so far and their not crash hot but it's the only way to get a CAC Sabre.
The one thing that bothers me is the soft detail in the c/pit of the Acamemy Sabre,the instument panel is crap and after doing the hard work putting it all together theres noway i'll put it in.
So what i'm going to do is buy the Hasegawa F-86 and swap C/pits then i'll build the F-86 in Canadian colours.
The Highplanes Sabre conversion apparently fit's both the Academy and Hasegawa F-86 kit.
Chris i found another RNZAF corsair plate,I also have 1/48 RNZAF roundels from the airfix kit,i'm doing the Royal Navy version in Oxford Blue.

BTW, just read a source which claims there are 8 surviving Boomerangs in various states of restoration. Unfortunately it doesn't say any more on the subject.

Must admit, the idea of doing the authoritive book on the Boomerang has crossed my mind briefly a couple of times. Also thinking about getting therapy!!!!!

Ok, I just went back through a few pages here, and in my opinion, the combined knowledge of Lobbie, South, Chris and Snowy, could quite easily fill the pages of a decent book for modelling referance.

Kind of like a quick finders guide, from pilots to Sqn numbers etc.

j.s., thanks for the Sabre decal post. Was curious as to what was in the box.

Whats the fit like of the parts?

Yep. You just did .....twice!!!!!