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December 2003
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Posted by jepot
on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 12:44 AM
I dont want to be accused of flaming the issue but all i can say is:
We are all here for the LOVE of the hobby and NOT for our OWN EGOS, our OWN groups, but FOR THE HOBBY. If any one cant say anything good for the hobby, might as well keep your oral aperture shut- it doesnt help us any good; after washing the dirty laundry of Filipinos in the field of scale modelling time and again in international fora and showing it off to hobby clubs of other nations like it was something to be proud of, we are once more the perfect example of how the worst form of individual a Filipino can be. Lets stop this, be it here at FSM, IPMS BAC or IPMS Manila for or where ever.
You're right there. It was Noel. I already discussed it with him and he said the remark was meant for Reggie's consumption only. Reggie was the first to make the board then Noel made his own. He was referring to the other guys who would make another like it. I'm sure he knew the BAC board was up long before ours was. The comment was not directed at BAC... that I'm sure of.
By the way, I visited the BAC site and logged in using my name and email address (I didn't want the moderators to think I was spying or something...). I even left a post for the moderators praising them for the work and explaining to them that I now know why Lani said the boards were the same.
I was surprised to find out I was banned from the site this morning. I was terribly disappointed. I would have really appreciated it if someone would email me to explain to me what I did to warrant being "banned". I do not want to go through the same experience I had last year with BAC. I do not think praising one's message board is punishable by banning, is it?
I was really under the impression the BAC board was available to all those who are in the hobby and want to interact. I am now of the impression that it is exclusive to BAC mrembers only.
I would understand if you didn't want to have "flamers" around but I really do not think my posts here at FSM, Armorama and Mechapinoy can be considered inflammatory or defammatory.
You guys will get to talk with the moderators of the BAC board. All I want to know is why.
Jun
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jun
i cannot speak on behalf of our officers but, what i do know is the BAC forum is not exclusive to BAC members only. however, the BAC officers/moderators do have the right to banned certain individuals from joining the forum.
believe me this is not the place to dicuss this issue, you among a few others knows this very well...don't pretend to be ignorrant for what you people did and still continue to do to your parent org.
its what children don't do to their parents or their comrades in arms.
i hope one our officers will contact you soon.
Ernie,
This will be my last words on the subject...
I do not know what those guys told you about me or about what Noel and I did to irritate the sensitive noses of "The powers that be" over there but that had nothing to do with what I'm doing now. I'm not even going to justify what happened then. What is past is past. The mistakes made in the past cannot be corrected by further commission of mistakes. It will just compound things.
Firstly, IPMS/BAC has not been nor ever will be the parent organization of IPMS/Manila. IPMS/Manila Philippines is a separate entity and a recognized chapter of IPMS/USA - not IPMS/BAC. The fact that Tiny, Noel, and I were former members of IPMS Philippines does not make IPMS/Manila a "daughter" organization nor are we a "chapter" of IPMS/BAC. There has never been nor will there ever be objective evidence to support this. We do have objective evidence of our chapter affiliations with IPMS/USA. For those who are interested in knowing whether what we are saying is true, please feel free to email any of the IPMS/USA or IPMS/UK officers to confirm. I have no qualms about you even asking them if they know me or Noel. I'm sure these "parent" organizations will affirm my statements.
Now Ernie, you and I have no beef with each other. I still consider you and the other guys here as well as all of the officers and members of IPMS/BAC as my friends. After all, we did share a lot of important and precious moments together. These will always be cherised by me.
It's just that I just cannot sit by and watch these kinds of misinformation or misperceptions at the very least go around such an august forum such as this. Misinformation is a very dangerous thing and it being such cannot be allowed to continue.
My information is irrefutable... I was there - physically when all these events unfurled. I was the object of the disdain and hate so unjustly delivered. I was there, man... I was there.
Let this be the end of this discussion. I hope that whoever is reading this will allow it to end here. I am sick and tired of this bickering and inuendo-casting. I am tired of all the politicking going around. We are modelers first and foremost. If we want to be other than that - fine... just do it somewhere else.
Jun