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When I did my 1/35 "hook", as Hookdriver said, the blades also came "pre" drooped. FOr the life of me I couldn't get the blades completely straight, so I ended up flipping the blades over. This gave me almost exactly what I was looking for. However, if you flip them over the blades will switch rotors. Since they are directional, the blades that were meant for the front, now became the rear rotor blades and vice versa.
I'll be doing the same thing when I build up my 1/72 "hook".
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Modelchasm - When you do your next 47 clamp the blades between 2 wooden rulers and dip them in hot water then cool them off, it seemed to work for me.
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Regard the issue of the rotar blades, Hookdriver is deffinatly right. As i am just starting my 72nd matchbox kit, i have been paying a bit more attention to the aircraft here as i go to work, and thats one thing i did notice.
Thanks for that photo hook, that will come in handy.
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I am not trying to argue the point, I would like to discuss it though.
Hookdriver- The -47 blades are very stiff but it appears that there is a slight sag when looking along the length of the blade. It is not pronounced but not surprising considering the weight and length of the blade. It is slightly more noticeable on the back side of the forward head due to the design angle. The aft head seems a little flatter as well. Granted, these are my observations from being near them frequently, not working with them and crewing them, and could be a result of me seeing what I expect rather than what is actually there.
Mac
I Didn't do it!!!
The fwd head is canted forward 9 deg, & the aft head is canted forward 3-4 deg (been away from the bird all year), so yes the heads are not on the same plane.
Not trying to contradict the good info that hookdriver put out about the rotor blade droop, but the blades do have a degree of droop cause by the weight of the blades, but is is not very pronounced, & not something I would worry about in 72nd.
I'll post some pics again, just have to remember how to do it in this forum using a Mac, as I've had problems in the past .
Ish, about to start hookin' again after a years break...
Ish, when you say your about to start Hookin again, what exactly do you mean. As not sure if its the same as it would mean here.
What I meant is that after a year of being back home in the states, I'm headed back overseas to start working as a mechanic on CH-47s again.
great discussion guys, I feel as if Im learning a lot!
I havent been able to work on the Chinook recently due to school work (yay, papers!) but I think I can get some time in this weekend. Fingers crossed!
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I guess I should have clarified, there is a slight droop to the blades, they are 330 inches and 360 lbs each, there will be some bend. The Trumpeter 1:35 kit had blades with substantial droop in them and I have not built the 1:72nd version so I don't know if it has the same issue.
Ish is right the forward head is canted forward 9 degrees and the aft 4 degrees for ground taxi. When you pick it up to a hover the Longitudinal cyclic trim actuators retract and level the swash plate.
On a side note, had my first flight on the controls in a MH-47G yesterday, I felt like a kid who discovered porn for the first time.
Can't wait to see more pics.
Thanks for the info. I spend my time around 60s. For me, a 47 is that big beast that I walked by on the flight line. As much as I hate to admit it, Hooks are quite impressive airframes with lots of variety for modelers, even on a standard airframe. I agree that the sag in the 47 rotor system may not be that noticeable in 72nd scale but in larger scales, the small differences between the fwd and aft heads is just a little item, easily replicated, that can add some great visual interest.
Right, got ur. Just that over here, Hookin refers to the job that i do, which is the underslung loads.
alrighty, I finally got some pics to share!
I worked some more on the interior
Here's a bit of cockpit detail:
and what the interior is looking like; I still have more detail im adding:
OWL
Looking pretty nice. The whole cockpit area should be flat black though. This allows for NVG compatablity and doesn't wash out the NVGs.
Check this thread for interior pics of a D model.
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HeavyArty Looking pretty nice. The whole cockpit area should be flat black though. This allows for NVG compatablity and doesn't wash out the NVGs. Check this thread for interior pics of a D model.
shoot, your right....oops. Oh well
Why "Oh well"? As long as you haven't closed it up, it would still be easy to fix with some black paint.
HeavyArty Why "Oh well"? As long as you haven't closed it up, it would still be easy to fix with some black paint.
Aww… don't be so harsh, it's her first chopper! Looks good from my end, keep up the good work!
Because I like it how it is, thats why.
Whatever works for you.
Guys,
Things got a little out of hand in this thread so I have edited several posts out in the interests of getting it back on track. Let's try to keep it out of the ditch from now on.
Cheers, Aaron
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To help get this back on the right track, here's a WIP photo!
The seats are finished and attached, but they took a lot of work, so I declined doing another set on the opposite side. Instead I fished around in the scrap bucket and fashioned some thingamajigs to help busy it up. I also added a textured napkin over the bulkhead there, to help suggest the quilting that's on the inside...dunno If I like the look of the napkin, so I might use something else for the rest of the interior.....
I like the bench! It looks pretty cool.
What kind of gray is that in the interior?
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RESlusher I like the bench! It looks pretty cool. What kind of gray is that in the interior?
Thanks! The color is just the grey that is found in the little Testors enamel jars
Cool! Sometimes I'm able to get away with using the gray ColorPlace (formerly DupliColor) primer. It's the perfect shade. Walmart...$1.05 a can!
RESlusher Cool! Sometimes I'm able to get away with using the gray ColorPlace (formerly DupliColor) primer. It's the perfect shade. Walmart...$1.05 a can!
is that a spray can?? super cheap if it is...
Yes ma'am. You're right on both counts.
Hmmmm...I may have to browse their selection next time im at wally-world
Nice progress Owl no big helo in the stash but will steal your way to scratch the seats on the next
rtoo speed makes ugly results, too relax don't make results
Nice job on the seats. Don't forget to add the black non-skid onto the cabin floor. Pawel posted some of my pics in his post on the first page of this thread, & in the last two, you can see the non-skid on the floor.
lsh47guy - I'm glad you mentioned it - I didn't know you made the photos, so sorry for not crediting you. But I'd like to thank you for posting them on the internet, when I finally come to building my own 1:72 Hook they will be a great help.
Owl - nice progress here. I was sorry to see what happened on this thread, but I'm glad you're movin' on. I don't quite understand your decision to leave the cockpit in gray, but I respect that decision, so please - keep 'em updates comin' and have a nice day
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Owl - a twin-rotor for your first chopper.... You're braver than I am! Coming along nicely.
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