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Armed Escort Tiltrotor
Posted by LemonJello on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:39 AM

I've started trying to modify the mix of landing gear from the two donor kits to give my creation a little more ground clearance.  Then I can hang some centerline weapons hardpoints. 

Combined parts from both the Mohawk and the Osprey with a little brass rod to get a taller, two-wheel nose setup.  That was the easy one.  The main sets are going to need a lot more work. 

I'll post some photos once I get my web hosting issues sorted out (hopefully soon). 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 5:51 PM

Thi is my first time visiting this thread...wow...I only wish I got here sooner!

Phil - I want one! Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]

Nicely done! More please...

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Posted by MBT70 on Monday, November 14, 2005 9:46 AM
Looks like a real machine, not a Citation/Osprey/Parts Box kitbash.  You got that magic wand thing goin' on there, Dude ....
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Saturday, November 12, 2005 5:28 PM
Phil, awesome job! That is highly imressive! I love the miniguns on the back as well. Very ingenius!
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Posted by LemonJello on Wednesday, November 9, 2005 11:34 AM

The minis are a nice added touch, Phil and the decals and paint look sharp.  Most impressive!

I did get a little work in the other night,  I put the consoles together and shot some interior black for the office, so I can work on the details for that and get it installed.  Plus I've got one nacelle done and ready to go on the wing.  Hope to get some more done this weekend.

I've got to get another online account for my photos, the old one got shut down.  Any suggestions?

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Posted by grandadjohn on Wednesday, November 9, 2005 10:26 AM
Looks good, Phil
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Posted by Trigger on Wednesday, November 9, 2005 8:37 AM
Looks good Phil, especially the minis in the back.
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Posted by philp on Wednesday, November 9, 2005 12:33 AM
That is just too cool.
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Posted by Par429 on Tuesday, November 8, 2005 9:56 PM

Progress has been a little slow lately, but I have finished the decals, windows (that seemed to take forever) and the rear gun.  Not too much left to do, just weapons, a little detail painting, and some weathering.  I still have not made a final decision about what to put on each station, but at least one load of Hellfire, one LAU-61 for rockets and I'm not sure what else.  I'll have to try some things and see what looks good. 

As always, comments welcome. 

Phil

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Monday, October 31, 2005 2:45 PM
I'm still lurking here too. Phil, you've done outstanding with your Escort! I love seeing all these ideas coming together! Keep them coming guys!
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Posted by LemonJello on Monday, October 31, 2005 7:16 AM
Looking real sharp, Phil!

It has been quiet, hasn't it? Not much to report on this end. I've gotten the major assemblies for the office done, just need to paint it up and then I can start on the fuselage with the putty...lots of putty.
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Posted by Screaminhelo on Saturday, October 29, 2005 1:22 PM
Still fixing my screwup right now.

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Posted by Trigger on Friday, October 28, 2005 6:26 PM
Sorry, none here still. House and work are getting most of my attention right now.
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Posted by Par429 on Friday, October 28, 2005 5:46 PM
It's very, very quiet in here. Anyone have any progress?



Phil
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Posted by LemonJello on Thursday, October 20, 2005 7:08 AM
The hardest cut was that first one for me. After that, I figured "Well, it's already chopped, may as well keep going!"

I think I'll get the cockpit put together and painted and then go back to the fuselage and all that gap filling. Oh, maybe get the engines assembled as well...
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Posted by Screaminhelo on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:42 PM
Oh, it's measure twice and cut once. I lost my camera, but you guys would really get a kick out of seeing this beast right now. The Apache cockpit didn't quite work out like I thought it would. Landing gear I think will get worked out in the end though.

Phil & LJ-
Both looking GREAT!

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Posted by Cableguy9238 on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 2:30 AM
WWWWWWOW, these look NICE!

I can't help but visit this thread 2, 3, 4 times a day...or more!

Keep it up, fellas!
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Posted by Trigger on Monday, October 17, 2005 3:20 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by LemonJello

QUOTE: Originally posted by Trigger74
Where are you planning on hanging rockets and Hellfire from?

I haven't worked that out yet, I may be going back to an internal bay of some kind. I'll know more when I get the engine nacelles and rotors put together and hung on the wing...centerline seems the best bet right now.

I'm kinda stuck on having a couple of rotary launchers...just because I think they're cool.


I've got a drawing I'll e-mail to you tonight that might help you make up your mind.
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Posted by Par429 on Monday, October 17, 2005 2:05 PM
LJ-
Looks pretty good, although you sure are going to get lots of practice with the filler. With the sponsons you should have plenty of room underneath for weapons. Looks like you can use the existing gear bays, and just add some taller landing gear struts to make room underneath.

Great start, keep us updated.

Phil
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Posted by LemonJello on Monday, October 17, 2005 1:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Trigger74
Where are you planning on hanging rockets and Hellfire from?

I haven't worked that out yet, I may be going back to an internal bay of some kind. I'll know more when I get the engine nacelles and rotors put together and hung on the wing...centerline seems the best bet right now.

I'm kinda stuck on having a couple of rotary launchers...just because I think they're cool.
A day in the Corps is like a day on the farm; every meal is a banquet, every paycheck a fortune, every formation a parade... The Marine Corps is a department of the Navy? Yeah...The Men's Department.
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Posted by Trigger on Monday, October 17, 2005 1:12 PM
Ah-nold said it best. "(that's) one ugly Censored [censored]"

Where are you planning on hanging rockets and Hellfire from?
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Posted by grandadjohn on Monday, October 17, 2005 11:30 AM
LJ, will wait nad see how your's develops, looks good so far
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Posted by LemonJello on Monday, October 17, 2005 10:31 AM
At long last, as promised, I've gotten some mock-up shots to show you guys. Let me start by saying, she's never going to win a beauty contest...And I'm going to really work on my puttying/filling/sanding skills with this one.

So, here we go...

Side View:


Nose-on:


From Above:


The Osprey nose will be faired into the Mohawk to give me a forward gun bay, and a longer overall nose to the bird. Like I said, there will be a lot of putty on this one to fill some of the holes and gaps, but at least you all can see what I've been doing and give me some welcome advice or ask some questions to keep me thinking through this project.

Edited to add:
Phil,
I knew yours was looking good, but dang! it really looks sharp. I've got to work out my landing gear situation, I like the solution you went with, but I think I'll try to adapt parts from my donor kits to work for mine.
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Monday, October 17, 2005 10:03 AM
Awesome! That bird is incredible! I love how you added the outrigger wheels to the engine sponsons. that was a stroke of genius!
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Posted by Par429 on Monday, October 17, 2005 9:24 AM
supercobra-
I would agree that the turret looks small. But since i didn't want to take parts from the only Whiskey Cobra on the shelf, the gun is from a Commanche kit. I reshaped the turret slightly to make it fit better (and disguise its origins), but I didn't make it any smaller. The Commache was supposed to have an XM301 gun, which from what I can tell is an improved M197, purposely designed to be smaller for the Commanche (the cost of stealth). The link below is to a PDF file with a good comparison between the XM301 and the M197, although it is only the gun and not the turret controls.

dtic.mil/ndia/2001gun/Talley.pdf

You're correct in that it's probably too late for me to make any significant changes. But thanks for the comments, it will give the others who are still in the design phase something else to think about.

Phil


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Posted by supercobra on Monday, October 17, 2005 8:43 AM
Looks great. I hate to mention this because it is probably too late but if that is an M-197 20mm gun it looks like the turret is too small to house the breach, feeder, drive motor, and elev and azimuth motors. It should be deeper (taller).
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Posted by Trigger on Monday, October 17, 2005 6:43 AM
Excellent as always Phil! I got a couple of binders full of decals so if there's something you're looking for, give me a shout.
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Posted by grandadjohn on Sunday, October 16, 2005 6:15 PM
Looks like it could take to the air, great job Phil
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Posted by Par429 on Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:21 PM
Some progress pictures. I painted it in a Marines Harrier-type paint scheme. I thought the rotor blades would stand out too much if I painted them black, so I used Gunship Gray. I couldn't resist painting some sort of decoration on the tail, so I painted some stripes on the rudder like an early WWII Navy aircraft (my other area of modelling/historical interest) I have also finished the landing gear. I took an easy out and depicted the landing gear bays to look like the doors close after the gear is down, like a Harrier. It looks good and save a bunch of work making gear bays. All the landing gear are on aluminum tubes and are removable so I can display it on a stand in aircraft mode If I want. It looks a lot sleeker in aircraft mode.





Next up is decals. I'm working on a decal sheet for it. Mostly I plan to use markings from a Harrier kit, but I need a few extras like squadron numbers and tail codes, etc. I have also started on weapons. I'm not sure what the final configuration will be, but at least one rack of Hellfires and one LAU-61 rocket pod. Not sure about the third pylon.

Comments and suggestions welcome.

Phil
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 14, 2005 11:03 AM
Wow ,this is an interesting thread !
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