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DITCY Part 2 *update 9-19*

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Posted by bbrowniii on Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:57 PM

Manny

While I don't have any US figure sets (specifically) I do have the BoB Sherman with the 'bonus' figs.  I just ran down to my basement and pulled those out.  On the 'extra' BAR in that set, it is pretty clear the bipod mounts under the muzzel of the BAR.  There is a very distinct 'notch' for the barrel to sit in.  I don't see the same notch on your bipod, but....

And as camo junkie said - it isn't a deal breaker.  Most folks probably would never notice (I actually didn't until camo junkie pointed it out (HA, this is all HIS FAULT!! Big Smile [:D]).  Since you have the darn thing in your possession and you can see what seems to make the most sense, ultimately it is your call as to what to do with it.  Your dio will still be awesome, I am sure...

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:40 PM
 bbrowniii wrote:

Manny

While I don't have any US figure sets (specifically) I do have the BoB Sherman with the 'bonus' figs.  I just ran down to my basement and pulled those out.  On the 'extra' BAR in that set, it is pretty clear the bipod mounts under the muzzel of the BAR.  There is a very distinct 'notch' for the barrel to sit in.  I don't see the same notch on your bipod, but....

And as camo junkie said - it isn't a deal breaker.  Most folks probably would never notice (I actually didn't until camo junkie pointed it out (HA, this is all HIS FAULT!! Big Smile [:D]).  Since you have the darn thing in your possession and you can see what seems to make the most sense, ultimately it is your call as to what to do with it.  Your dio will still be awesome, I am sure...

Here's the box-art showing the parts and how they are supposed to fit...looks like the mount may not be molded as accurately or as finely as they depict...a little trimming down should rectify the "fat" part...the hollowed out muzzle sure is impressive, though!

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Posted by camo junkie on Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:06 PM
 bbrowniii wrote:

And as camo junkie said - it isn't a deal breaker.  Most folks probably would never notice (I actually didn't until camo junkie pointed it out (HA, this is all HIS FAULT!! Big Smile [:D]). 

this is what i get for asking a question! Laugh [(-D] let the record state...my ignorance will be my undoing! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Stern0 on Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:15 PM

MR, Can't wait to see your "bullets" in action......something I have tossed around for years...My first post on this forum was "suspended action".....traveling bullets hitting tombstones was what I was looking for....never found a convincing way....always looked a little hokey...looking very forward to yours...

I saw where you seemed to get a little testy about how close you shoot your pics from to capture your detail...I could not find the provacation for it...were you challenged in some way? I always though your figs had that little something extra (drilling sleaves..ect.) These are no exception...I do know that I get close pics of mine and I know they are crappy!Big Smile [:D] 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 17, 2009 6:12 AM
 Stern0 wrote:

MR, Can't wait to see your "bullets" in action......something I have tossed around for years...My first post on this forum was "suspended action".....traveling bullets hitting tombstones was what I was looking for....never found a convincing way....always looked a little hokey...looking very forward to yours...

I saw where you seemed to get a little testy about how close you shoot your pics from to capture your detail...I could not find the provacation for it...were you challenged in some way? I always though your figs had that little something extra (drilling sleaves..ect.) These are no exception...I do know that I get close pics of mine and I know they are crappy!Big Smile [:D] 

Yeah, I'm hoping that the bullets in action and the other "secret surprise" will elevate this one a notch (or two) above DITCY...

Testy? Me? LOL...hah, just trying to make the point that if looking at the BAR w/o the benefit of extreme close-up, it looks fine...I think I'll look inyo cutting that part down a bit if I can do it w/o breaking the whole front-end off...thanks for looking in---things should start happening faster now...still trying to settle on the building I'm gonna use...

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Posted by calvin_ng on Friday, July 17, 2009 8:18 AM
OH im sorry MR didnt mean to start a fight, now i see it. I guess tamiyas intstructions are to blame LOL.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 17, 2009 8:29 AM

 calvin_ng wrote:
OH im sorry MR didnt mean to start a fight, now i see it. I guess tamiyas intstructions are to blame LOL.

Well, I'm not sure anyone is to blame...But I should have shaved the part down a bit once I compared it to the DML illustrations...the part provided is much "fatter" than what is depicted...I'll get it looking right before its done...thanks for pointing it out...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, July 17, 2009 11:48 AM

As far as the M1 goes, if what you and HVH say is true, then everyone is right---the sling could go through either bracket, and I chose the lower one, but I must say all of my refs point to the one lower down being used to secure the sling...

Manny, my initial comment about the sling ws in response to Camo Junkie's comment about sling placement, where he said that he thought the sling was placed too far back on one of the rifles.. I just pointed out that the M1 sling could be placed in either swivel and that yours were ok... Didn't mean to come off like I wanted to start liftin' hind legs... 

When it comes to slings, soldier preference is the measure... The only time sling placement is an issue is during parades and formations where uniformity is an issue..  Myself, I top-slung my M-16 in the field the entire time I was in the Army.  I looped the sling around the butt just behind the charging handle and the front end around the handguard ring, kinda like this:

I did so because my weapon would be muzzle-down at sling arms, and I also didn't have to sling it across my back in order to use both hands, and it wouldn't slide down my arm either.. Top-slung, I could quickly raise it into firing postion sling arms as well...

Hope this clears up any misunderstanding..

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 17, 2009 7:39 PM
 Hans von Hammer wrote:

As far as the M1 goes, if what you and HVH say is true, then everyone is right---the sling could go through either bracket, and I chose the lower one, but I must say all of my refs point to the one lower down being used to secure the sling...

Manny, my initial comment about the sling ws in response to Camo Junkie's comment about sling placement, where he said that he thought the sling was placed too far back on one of the rifles.. I just pointed out that the M1 sling could be placed in either swivel and that yours were ok... Didn't mean to come off like I wanted to start liftin' hind legs... 

When it comes to slings, soldier preference is the measure... The only time sling placement is an issue is during parades and formations where uniformity is an issue..  Myself, I top-slung my M-16 in the field the entire time I was in the Army.  I looped the sling around the butt just behind the charging handle and the front end around the handguard ring, kinda like this:

I did so because my weapon would be muzzle-down at sling arms, and I also didn't have to sling it across my back in order to use both hands, and it wouldn't slide down my arm either.. Top-slung, I could quickly raise it into firing postion sling arms as well...

Hope this clears up any misunderstanding..

 

No harm, no foul, Hammer...
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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, July 17, 2009 8:57 PM

I'm sure you have some good reference photos of BARs already. But if not...

 

 

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Posted by camo junkie on Friday, July 17, 2009 8:57 PM
and me manny?? ya never acknowledged my comments...not that ya have to but they were not meant the way they seemed...as stated...it was just curiousity/ignorance only! Confused [%-)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 17, 2009 9:46 PM

 camo junkie wrote:
and me manny?? ya never acknowledged my comments...not that ya have to but they were not meant the way they seemed...as stated...it was just curiousity/ignorance only! Confused [%-)]

Hey, Camo--its guys like you, bbrowmi, Hammer and everyone else in here who comments who keeps me motivated...some of the best ideas for DITCY Part 1 came from you guys...

Keep passing the ammo, guys!!!

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Posted by the doog on Monday, July 20, 2009 2:25 PM

Hey Manny!

Well, I'll be honest; I haven't had time to read through the whole thread, but I love the idea! I like the figures, and the truck with the gun on the deck looks really unique--soemthing I have never seen modeled! VERY cool, and original to boot!

I DIG IT!

Hopefully, by the time I get home, you'll have worked your magic on the figures--can't wait to see them come to life ala' the "Manny Touch!" Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:21 PM
 the doog wrote:

Hey Manny!

Well, I'll be honest; I haven't had time to read through the whole thread, but I love the idea! I like the figures, and the truck with the gun on the deck looks really unique--soemthing I have never seen modeled! VERY cool, and original to boot!

I DIG IT!

Hopefully, by the time I get home, you'll have worked your magic on the figures--can't wait to see them come to life ala' the "Manny Touch!" Big Smile [:D]

Thanks, doog---I'm excited about this one.  I normally don't do soft-skins, but that bad-a$$ flak gun is gonna really set it off!
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Posted by SMJmodeler on Friday, July 24, 2009 1:48 PM

Manny: Did you decide to go with the flak on the Opel when you saw those nastyGrumpy [|(] ejector marks on the side panels of the truck bed?  What was Mr. Tamiya thinkingConfused [%-)]

I'm building the truck now too and I'm not sure what to do...

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 24, 2009 4:00 PM
 SMJmodeler wrote:

Manny: Did you decide to go with the flak on the Opel when you saw those nastyGrumpy [|(] ejector marks on the side panels of the truck bed?  What was Mr. Tamiya thinkingConfused [%-)]

I'm building the truck now too and I'm not sure what to do...

Yeah, those knock-out marks couldn't be in a worse place...I wish they did like DML and had the little "nubs" attached to the parts that are used to catch the ejecter pins so they wouldn't leave those marks...it is even worse since they are on the wood-grain...

I haven't yet decided if I am gonna leave the sidewalls and rear door off completely, have them in a lowered position, or fully upright...If I do the later, I will have to fill and rescribe those marks...Grumpy [|(]...I am going to wait and see how high the flak sits in the bed before I decide...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, July 24, 2009 6:54 PM

Just bringin' some pics forward so I don't have to keep jumpin' back & forth to re-read what's gettin' talked about...Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 27, 2009 8:51 AM
 Hans von Hammer wrote:

Just bringin' some pics forward so I don't have to keep jumpin' back & forth to re-read what's gettin' talked about...Big Smile [:D]

Thanks for the bump, Hammer--although the figs, sans paint, are complete now (you can go back and see them finished in this thread)...
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Posted by model maniac 96 on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:09 AM
This is an amazing build, you said that the weapons were dragon, are they Gen2? And what set did they come in?

Thanks, Jim
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Posted by vespa boy on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:22 AM

Once upon a time in the early 80s I used to make model kits, and actually modelled the same Opel Blitz with the flak on the back.

 Looking forward to the developments on this one.

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I ain't got time for that now

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:28 AM
 model maniac 96 wrote:
This is an amazing build, you said that the weapons were dragon, are they Gen2? And what set did they come in?

Thanks, Jim
...2 of the 3 rifles used were GEN2 Dragon weapons that came from their    "US Tank Riders" set, Ibelieve---even the muzzles are hollowed out !!! There are a few other US sets that have GEN2 weapns in them as well, 10th Mountain Division being one of them.
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Posted by model maniac 96 on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:17 PM
Ok, thanks a bunch!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 31, 2009 8:29 AM
 vespa boy wrote:

Once upon a time in the early 80s I used to make model kits, and actually modelled the same Opel Blitz with the flak on the back.

 Looking forward to the developments on this one.

Vespa, this is actually the brand-new Tamiya offering...you probably are referring to the old Italeri offering, which is still a very good model even today...

I'll be paying more attention to the ground-work on this one... 

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Posted by SMJmodeler on Friday, July 31, 2009 9:11 AM
 Mansteins revenge wrote:

...it is even worse since they are on the wood-grain...I haven't yet decided if I am gonna leave the sidewalls and rear door off completely...

Manny: Amen to that!  You can't really putty/fill them, very easily anyway...and sanding them would be messy too.   I think I may drape a flag, as part of my dio', over one side and strategicaly place the fuel drums on the other side.  As for the rear door, I may have it down with a figure sitting on the bed and maybe another standing with with his arm "blocking" the ejector mark.  I hate having to "cheat" to fix a problem that shouldn't be there at all.  It seems like a rookie move on Tamiya's part.  BTW, look at the box the kit came in and look at the side photo of their finished model.  The ejector marks are clearly visible on the rear panel!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 1, 2009 12:19 PM

US figgies painted:

 

Please comment or I'll send a three-man assault group your way...

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Posted by Bodge on Saturday, August 1, 2009 1:32 PM
Hi Manny , only just seen this post and the idea looks great and full of action as war modelling should be. Can i just say also i think these figures are outstanding, best ive seen of yours to date ,GRRRRRRRREEEEAAATTT.
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Posted by stick man on Saturday, August 1, 2009 1:39 PM

WOW! great looking figures Manny!!!

Smile [:)]

I'm 15 and I model I sk8board and I drum what could be better.
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Posted by camo junkie on Saturday, August 1, 2009 2:20 PM

yep...better than mine manny...but you knew that! Wink [;)]

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Posted by ygmodeler4 on Saturday, August 1, 2009 3:02 PM

Glad to see themm painted, it was worth the wait...but wheres the cow??

Im calling false advertising!

 

Josiah

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Posted by psstoff995 on Saturday, August 1, 2009 5:39 PM

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]

The loose straps on that helmet are really nice though, really looks like he's hauling Censored [censored]

Can't wait to see the barn/farm building- dead cow and all!

Any paint on the KIA yet?

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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