DITCY Part 2 *update 9-19*

Mansteins revenge wrote:

Bodge wrote: Very impresed, lookin awsome . I purchased a video called the Falaize gap recently and it would be right up your street on this dio as there is loads of footage that was new to me and ive got a lot and loads of devastation after the battles. They say the countryside absolutly stank of dead carcases of men ,cattle and horses. Some of the footage is quite grafic seeing dead germans with a face full of maggots wigling around .Some thing you dont see much   the true horrors of war.Saying that though its a cracker of a DVD and iwatch it over and over as my next dio is gonna be around this time and theme. Wow...I'd like to get my hands on that video...

I'm with Manny on this one!

Bodge, what is the title and where did you get it??

By the way, superb dead things, Manny!

I got the DVD from Bovington tank museum last time i went ,it really is a cracker.Plus there are loads of extra bonus footage thats nearly as long as the original title all on the same time in france and belgium. I just looked on ebay and there were about 8 copies on buy it now,s at £13.99 with free postage. Just type in the full title. 

Thanks for the box art and the DVD title- any idea if it's part of a bigger series?

Manny- did I miss a new thread you started? Just wondering if I'm behind on your surprise element and suspended 1/35 bullets on fish line.

psstoff995 wrote:

Manny- did I miss a new thread you started? Just wondering if I'm behind on your surprise element and suspended 1/35 bullets on fish line.

agentg wrote:

Ok enough's enough. BUILD IT! This is way cool and I can't wait anymore, sorry not enough coffee yet.

model maniac 96 wrote:

agentg wrote: Ok enough's enough. BUILD IT! This is way cool and I can't wait anymore, sorry not enough coffee yet. Ditto.

agentg wrote:

.... sorry not enough coffee yet.

HOLY CRAP!! 430P and not enough coffe yet!?! HAHAHAHA!!!!

Major elements complete...working on composition before laying groundwork...please give feedback on this comp. or I'll haul that cow carcass over and dump it in your front-yard...

Still have some work on the farmhouse to complete...attaching doors, shutters---some detail painting on the structure...

Was hoping to fit the cow into the extreme foreground instead off to the side? Hmmmm...

My words simply just won't do it justice...Amazing work. Figures are always so frustrating to me. Honestly, I don't understand how you do it. Good work! The first DITCY was great too. Great composition in this scene. Keep it coming!

Jon

Excellent, Manny! I love the action in it. The elements look terrrific!

NOt sure about the cow--I think that the composition looks a little too symetrical with the five figures basically ringing the base like numbers on a clock. A little asymetry would help, I think. Maybe you could move the running men back toward the shooter more, and leave more space between the cow and them.

Is this going to be a dirt road/terrain type situation? Because I think that if you're going to have a paved/cobblestone situation, it would be better to leave the cow out. 

Stunning work as always Manny!

It looks great, coming along very nicely.  

the doog wrote:

Excellent, Manny! I love the action in it. The elements look terrrific! NOt sure about the cow--I think that the composition looks a little too symetrical with the five figures basically ringing the base like numbers on a clock. A little asymetry would help, I think. Maybe you could move the running men back toward the shooter more, and leave more space between the cow and them. Is this going to be a dirt road/terrain type situation? Because I think that if you're going to have a paved/cobblestone situation, it would be better to leave the cow out.

I have been thiking of ground I have it narrowed down to packed earth, w/ ruts in it...or semi-cobbled, which you often see in Europe where an old road has been left to the elements and the earth has reclaimed large patches of the stones...hard to explain but I'm sure you've seen it...

the doog wrote:

Excellent, Manny! I love the action in it. The elements look terrrific! NOt sure about the cow--I think that the composition looks a little too symetrical with the five figures basically ringing the base like numbers on a clock. A little asymetry would help, I think. Maybe you could move the running men back toward the shooter more, and leave more space between the cow and them. Is this going to be a dirt road/terrain type situation? Because I think that if you're going to have a paved/cobblestone situation, it would be better to leave the cow out.  Thanks, doog...I agree...I have been thinking and I believe w/ some minor tweaks I can move the cow to the immediate foreground and have the two runners between the cow and the truck... I have been thiking of ground I have it narrowed down to packed earth, w/ ruts in it...or semi-cobbled, which you often see in Europe where an old road has been left to the elements and the earth has reclaimed large patches of the stones...hard to explain but I'm sure you've seen it...

1st off great work Manny.  But, I think Indy has a good point/idea. I certainly have no room to talk, but the cow does seem off to me.  

 Just looks like they would of had to back the truck in since the cow is there, it kind of blocks off the path that you would assume the vehicle took before stopping.  Maybe just a lil tinker-in.  Just my   for what ever thats worth

INDY has some great points, Manny--I also am having doubts about the feasability of the moog. The matter is the base dimensions, and the difficulty of cramming all those elements in there and still having some necessary "dead space" to give it that feeling of authenticity.

Are you married to the moog? YOu might be better served getting a chicken or something for that kind of animal element; I think the cow may be justa little too big for the scene and base at this point...?

the doog wrote:

INDY has some great points, Manny--I also am having doubts about the feasability of the moog. The matter is the base dimensions, and the difficulty of cramming all those elements in there and still having some necessary "dead space" to give it that feeling of authenticity. Are you married to the moog? YOu might be better served getting a chicken or something for that kind of animal element; I think the cow may be justa little too big for the scene and base at this point...?

I think I am gonne retain the cow and get a bigger base. I am gonna check where I got that one and see if I can up-size---I like the oval shape because it removes corners that a swuare would give that I really don't need. A larger base will also gove me more room for other goodies I built for this dio, like a plow and other farm impliments...thanks for the feedback everyone!

 Herr Feldmarschall, I think you got enough to chew on at this point, I just  found this shot & had to think of DITCYII. I always like finding similar reference to my works before, during even after. Blow this up and look at the tension, how ready to snap off a few shots these guys are.

P.S. Having 'slept on it' I envisioned a (slight slope?) with moo moo on a downward facing hillface, maybe with the building even more elevated? Seems unacceptable to get rid of the moo-cow, and everyone wants to see ALL the elements you came up with, right?  IDK, just what popped into the 'ole noggin, we'll wait 'til you go to town on it...................Indy out.................

Manny good to see this coming together. I think Indy and Doog really covered the main points. To me the truck and the building are the main bulk of the composition and need to be more asymmetrically placed so that they guide your eye around the scene not only on the base but with each other. All I am suggesting is lots of fiddling with the big elements until they sit right in the available space. Keep on working you are getting there.

PS I really don't like the cow...just my opinion.

INDY wrote:

Herr Feldmarschall, I think you got enough to chew on at this point, I just  found this shot & had to think of DITCYII. I always like finding similar reference to my works before, during even after. Blow this up and look at the tension, how ready to snap off a few shots these guys are. P.S. Having 'slept on it' I envisioned a (slight slope?) with moo moo on a downward facing hillface, maybe with the building even more elevated? Seems unacceptable to get rid of the moo-cow, and everyone wants to see ALL the elements you came up with, right?  IDK, just what popped into the 'ole noggin, we'll wait 'til you go to town on it...................Indy out.................

INDY wrote:

Herr Feldmarschall, I think you got enough to chew on at this point, I just  found this shot & had to think of DITCYII. I always like finding similar reference to my works before, during even after. Blow this up and look at the tension, how ready to snap off a few shots these guys are. P.S. Having 'slept on it' I envisioned a (slight slope?) with moo moo on a downward facing hillface, maybe with the building even more elevated? Seems unacceptable to get rid of the moo-cow, and everyone wants to see ALL the elements you came up with, right?  IDK, just what popped into the 'ole noggin, we'll wait 'til you go to town on it...................Indy out................. I have actually had that pic bookmarked for years...one of my favs...and I guess subconsciously my dio refelcts some of that scene...cool...

No kidding? HA~! Thats increadable, At least we know we're on the same page.(pun intended)         Interesting timing ain't it?I'd never seen this/\/\/\

Manny i really like the figure painting and the attention you've given to the detail. i like the flak with the subtle chipping, and the moo moo. lol . if i may what paints did you use.  great work

calvin ng

P.S i just thought that i could make a dio similiar to yours, just with a G.I tripping over the cow though :-)

calvin_ng wrote:

Manny i really like the figure painting and the attention you've given to the detail. i like the flak with the subtle chipping, and the moo moo. lol . if i may what paints did you use.  great work calvin ng P.S i just thought that i could make a dio similiar to yours, just with a G.I tripping over the cow though :-)

Mansteins revenge wrote:

Major elements complete...working on composition before laying groundwork...please give feedback on this comp. or I'll haul that cow carcass over and dump it in your front-yard...

Dude, those uniforms are stunning! Incredible work.

Steve

Hey Manny

Great work!  Just a quick question/suggestion.  I know you are having some issues with the layout and were thinking of a larger base.  What if you simple put the truck a little further from the building and at an angle, with the front towards the building.  The GI with the rifle could be at the right rear corner as the other two GIs dart across the gap between the side of the building and the truck.  The dead cow could fill the dead (no pun intended) space created on the right side of the truck. 

I'm not sure if your base allow you that degree of flexibilty, but if it did, it might save you the trouble of prepping a new base.

bbrowniii wrote:

Hey Manny Great work!  Just a quick question/suggestion.  I know you are having some issues with the layout and were thinking of a larger base.  What if you simple put the truck a little further from the building and at an angle, with the front towards the building.  The GI with the rifle could be at the right rear corner as the other two GIs dart across the gap between the side of the building and the truck.  The dead cow could fill the dead (no pun intended) space created on the right side of the truck.  I'm not sure if your base allow you that degree of flexibilty, but if it did, it might save you the trouble of prepping a new base.