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Posted by fermis on Saturday, April 4, 2009 10:49 PM

 Good God Rob !!!

  (wave hand like Jedi) You have more important things going on, on the 18th!!!(more important than the contest, that is!!!)

                                    

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Posted by Melgyver on Saturday, April 4, 2009 10:56 PM

Looking good Rob!

What did you use for the metal part of the tail wheel well?  Photoetch?

Clear Left!

Mel

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Posted by Luftwoller on Sunday, April 5, 2009 3:43 AM

Excellent detail work Rob. You really get a feel for how tight and claustrophobic that tail gunner must have felt.

...Guy

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Posted by Lancair IV on Sunday, April 5, 2009 9:51 AM
 fermis wrote:

 Good God Rob !!!

  (wave hand like Jedi) You have more important things going on, on the 18th!!!(more important than the contest, that is!!!)

                                    

 

Sorry Fermis....I'm having surgery on the 20th so if I have all my eggs in a row by the 18th, I'll be there....

 

Thanks

 

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by Lancair IV on Sunday, April 5, 2009 9:53 AM
 Melgyver wrote:

Looking good Rob!

What did you use for the metal part of the tail wheel well?  Photoetch?

 

Thanks Melgyver.......The tail wheel was scratch built from brass.  Turned a couple of parts on the lathe to fit correctly.

 

Cheers

 

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by Melgyver on Sunday, April 5, 2009 11:05 AM

Rob,

 I was actually asking about the circular "wheel well" aft of the cavas boot. 

 

Clear Left!

Mel

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Posted by Lancair IV on Sunday, April 5, 2009 12:12 PM
 Melgyver wrote:

Rob,

 I was actually asking about the circular "wheel well" aft of the cavas boot. 

 

 

That was scratch built from brass also.

 

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by DrewH on Sunday, April 5, 2009 12:54 PM
Rob - You are doing a fantastic job here. I'm eagerly watching and taking inspiration for your work. Keep up the fantasic work of art Bow [bow]
Take this plastic and model it!
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Posted by Lancair IV on Monday, April 6, 2009 8:28 PM

Not much progress. The waist gunners stations are complete less gun pivots. Maybe tomorrow. I did start the radio room and raised floor around the ball turret and after that is in place, I'll scratch the ball turret.


Completed Right Waist Gunners Station

 

Tail Wheel Detail

 

Completed Left Waist Gunners Station

 

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by Lancair IV on Friday, April 10, 2009 5:29 PM

Sorry for the delay....I've been contimplating a few things for the fort and I had to order some stuff.  Decals included.

 

Mount N Ride

 

Cheers

 

 

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by Lancair IV on Monday, April 13, 2009 9:08 AM
 fermis wrote:

 Good God Rob !!!

  (wave hand like Jedi) You have more important things going on, on the 18th!!!(more important than the contest, that is!!!)

                                    

 

Hey Jeremy........If you can wave your hand like a Jedi and fix my nerve damage before the 18th, I'll make it.  The drive would be too hard and painful.  I'm having a hard time getting up and down my stairs to my work shop know. My surgery is on the 20th.  I wish the contest was the following weekend.  I would definitely go.

 Have fun.  Let us know what you win.  Say hi to all those HOT women.

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by fermis on Monday, April 13, 2009 1:29 PM
 Lancair IV wrote:
 fermis wrote:

 Good God Rob !!!

  (wave hand like Jedi) You have more important things going on, on the 18th!!!(more important than the contest, that is!!!)

                                    

 

Hey Jeremy........If you can wave your hand like a Jedi and fix my nerve damage before the 18th, I'll make it.  The drive would be too hard and painful.  I'm having a hard time getting up and down my stairs to my work shop know. My surgery is on the 20th.  I wish the contest was the following weekend.  I would definitely go.

 Have fun.  Let us know what you win.  Say hi to all those HOT women.

Cheers

 Bummer, but.....maybe I'll bring home some GOLD this time....oh hey, if you like, we can meet up at a park-n-ride, I don't mind drivin. Let me know.

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Posted by Lancair IV on Monday, April 13, 2009 6:02 PM
 fermis wrote:
 Lancair IV wrote:
 fermis wrote:

 Good God Rob !!!

  (wave hand like Jedi) You have more important things going on, on the 18th!!!(more important than the contest, that is!!!)

                                    

 

Hey Jeremy........If you can wave your hand like a Jedi and fix my nerve damage before the 18th, I'll make it.  The drive would be too hard and painful.  I'm having a hard time getting up and down my stairs to my work shop know. My surgery is on the 20th.  I wish the contest was the following weekend.  I would definitely go.

 Have fun.  Let us know what you win.  Say hi to all those HOT women.

Cheers

 Bummer, but.....maybe I'll bring home some GOLD this time....oh hey, if you like, we can meet up at a park-n-ride, I don't mind drivin. Let me know.

 

Hey... I appreciate it, but it's sitting in moving object for more than 15 minutes kills me.  I'd need lots of meds and I'd be falling asleep at the contest.  I want to go, I really do, but my body doesn't.  Hopefully, this time next week, I'll be pain free.

 

Thanks again.

 

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by fermis on Monday, April 13, 2009 7:11 PM
 Roger that! Hope everything gets taken care of. Maybe we'll be able to get together for the Kalamazoo show. I think it's around aug/sept.

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Posted by B-17 Guy on Monday, April 13, 2009 7:57 PM

I hope all goes well rob, pain is not fun. I've been having a lot of trouble lately trying to sit at the bench to get some modelling done, my back just doesnt want to let me sometimes.

Wishing you well buddy!

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Posted by Lancair IV on Monday, April 13, 2009 8:27 PM

Thanks guys.  It's been 2 long years dealing with this nerve pain caused by a previous surgery that removed cancer and 1/2 of my left kidney.  I'll be so happy when this is over.  Big Smile [:D]

Fermis....I'm sure you'll do well.  I've seen your art, and it's 1st class.

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by jschlechty on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:56 AM

Rob,

 

Check your e-mail, please.

Thanks,

John Schlechty

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Posted by Lancair IV on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:59 PM
 jschlechty wrote:

Rob,

 

Check your e-mail, please.

Thanks,

John Schlechty

 

E-mail sent John.  Let me know if you find out anything.

 

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

sav
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Posted by sav on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 6:15 PM
Awesome looking build Lancair. I have the 1/48th Monogram kit too which has one fuselage side transparent. I've bookmarked this thread so I can come back and use your build for reference :)

I got the Monogram version because it included some good internal detail and the crew but was bummed to find that not all the crew are supplied, there are a few missing. So for me to build the fortress in-flight I'll need to source some extra gunners from somewhere.

You live and learn I guess.
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Posted by Swanny on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:32 PM

Rob, you're doing some great work and providing me with some additional detail ideas. As far as those waist guns go I would strongly recommend you look at the Aires Browning 50s, very nice detail sets and a huge improvement over the kit guns.

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Posted by Lancair IV on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:56 PM
 Swanny wrote:

Rob, you're doing some great work and providing me with some additional detail ideas. As far as those waist guns go I would strongly recommend you look at the Aires Browning 50s, very nice detail sets and a huge improvement over the kit guns.

 

Funny you would mention that.  I was just searching the Internet for Aires products distributor in the US.  I would love to get those guns and also some afterburner cans for a 1/48 B-58 Hustler they make.  Do you know of a distributor?

 

Thanks

 

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by B-17 Guy on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:17 PM
Those .50's are beautiful! But I dont know if I would have the patience for them, not to mention the cost. You two are better men then I.
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Posted by Swanny on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:24 PM
The Aires sets are usually availible from Great Models. I think that Mike West at Lone Star is working on some B-58 details that may be ready soon.
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Posted by Lancair IV on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:57 PM

 Swanny wrote:
The Aires sets are usually availible from Great Models. I think that Mike West at Lone Star is working on some B-58 details that may be ready soon.

 

Thanks again Swanny...Guns and Afterburners are ordered.  You made my day.

 

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by Moon Puppy on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:21 PM
 Lancair IV wrote:
 Melgyver wrote:

Rob,

 I was actually asking about the circular "wheel well" aft of the cavas boot. 

 

 

That was scratch built from brass also.

 

Cheers

 

You sort of glazed over this whole "scratch built from brass" part. How did you shape it?

BTW, I'm reading this full thread. Really like what you're doing. 

Remember, we are told Post Counts don't matter! (unless it's really high)

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Posted by Lancair IV on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:35 PM
 Moon Puppy wrote:
 Lancair IV wrote:
 Melgyver wrote:

Rob,

 I was actually asking about the circular "wheel well" aft of the cavas boot. 

 

 

That was scratch built from brass also.

 

Cheers

 

You sort of glazed over this whole "scratch built from brass" part. How did you shape it?

BTW, I'm reading this full thread. Really like what you're doing. 

 

Sorry.  I started with several strips of brass about 1/16 wide that I annealed, curved each one over a craftsman socket then started soldering them one to another like a fan creating the cup.  After I was happy with the basic shape, I filed and filed the outside until I was really happy, then I ground out the inside to be smooth and thin it out as much as possible.  There were several areas that I filled and sanded before I painted it.  If I ever do another Fort, I'll make a wood plug and drape form plastic over that.  Hell....I should make a B-17 Tail Wheel Kit.....Would anyone be interested in that?  For lets say $30.00......?  Whistling [:-^]

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by Swanny on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:41 PM
Funny you should mention the kit idea. Just tonight I got sick and tired of making fire bottles and O2 tanks in holders. Need quite a few for a B-17 and I have ten more waiting to build so this starts to add up. Tonight I just made masters and am in the middle of making some RTV molds - that should take care of the evil modeling elf for a few days.
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Posted by Lancair IV on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:53 PM

 Swanny wrote:
Funny you should mention the kit idea. Just tonight I got sick and tired of making fire bottles and O2 tanks in holders. Need quite a few for a B-17 and I have ten more waiting to build so this starts to add up. Tonight I just made masters and am in the middle of making some RTV molds - that should take care of the evil modeling elf for a few days.

 

I spent an entire night turning O2 tanks and fire bottles on my lathe.  I still have the large O2 tanks to due.  A few came with the True Detail kits, but not enough for the underside of the cockpit.  I wish I had the tools and know how to do RTV molds.  Someday!

 

Man, I getting the bug to get back on this know. 

 

The wood floors is going to be really really thin wood that I picked up from the hobby shop.  I've got some experimenting to do, but i think it can be done.  I'm just not happy with the floor that's in there know.  I know you can't see it except through the open doors, but I know it's there and I want it right. 

 

Thanks for keeping me enthused.  By the way, Your web site is great.

 

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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Posted by Moon Puppy on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:58 PM
 Lancair IV wrote:

Sorry.  I started with several strips of brass about 1/16 wide that I annealed, curved each one over a craftsman socket then started soldering them one to another like a fan creating the cup.  After I was happy with the basic shape, I filed and filed the outside until I was really happy, then I ground out the inside to be smooth and thin it out as much as possible.  There were several areas that I filled and sanded before I painted it.  If I ever do another Fort, I'll make a wood plug and drape form plastic over that.  Hell....I should make a B-17 Tail Wheel Kit.....Would anyone be interested in that?  For lets say $30.00......?  Whistling [:-^]

Not sure how you go from fan to cup but I think I understand what you're saying. 

Bow [bow]

 

HEy Matt, check your pm. 

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Posted by Lancair IV on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:48 PM
 Moon Puppy wrote:
 Lancair IV wrote:

Sorry.  I started with several strips of brass about 1/16 wide that I annealed, curved each one over a craftsman socket then started soldering them one to another like a fan creating the cup.  After I was happy with the basic shape, I filed and filed the outside until I was really happy, then I ground out the inside to be smooth and thin it out as much as possible.  There were several areas that I filled and sanded before I painted it.  If I ever do another Fort, I'll make a wood plug and drape form plastic over that.  Hell....I should make a B-17 Tail Wheel Kit.....Would anyone be interested in that?  For lets say $30.00......?  Whistling [:-^]

Not sure how you go from fan to cup but I think I understand what you're saying. 

Bow [bow]

 

HEy Matt, check your pm. 

 

Hope this helps.

Step 1

Step 2

Step 3

Step 4

Step 5

Step 6

Step 7

Trimming and fitting to the fuselage 

And finally...The end result.

Rob Byrnes

Novi, Mi

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