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Posted by troublemaker66 on Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:41 PM

Hans von Hammer

The Vals they used in the movie were B-18`s I think....

BT-13s..

The CAF Tora Squadron operates the Vals, Kates, and Zekes... There's also the one authentic Zeke airframe we have as well, although it's been re-engined with a P&W mill..

Yep..BT-13`s....got a bunch of pics of one of the Val`s at the Milleville airshow...I knew someone would correct me...Big Smile

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Posted by icer22x on Thursday, September 8, 2011 8:25 AM

So I finished my first paint last night. I am doing the bottom in a neutral grey. But I cannot for the life of me get a smooth coat. This is the second plane I've used an airbrush on and when I paint large areas, the paint always goes on slightly grainy. I end up letting it dry for a few seconds and wiping the grain off with a cloth. It makes it pretty smooth and gives a cool wear effect, but what am I doing wrong? I can spray small pieces just fine - silk smooth. But larger areas are tough.

I spray at around 25 PSI and the paint is mixed well. I wonder if I am doing the strokes too fast and not letting the first coat dry enough? Still pretty new to airbrushing.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, September 8, 2011 10:07 AM

icer22x

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I spray at around 25 PSI and the paint is mixed well. I wonder if I am doing the strokes too fast and not letting the first coat dry enough? Still pretty new to airbrushing.

Not sure of the pressure, but if I get that rough texture it's usually because I haven't thinned the paint enough; or I'm spraying from too far away. (Or it's very dry & hot where I'm spraying) Either way, the paint is starting to dry before it hits the surface. I'd say dial the pressure back a little, use a little more thinner, and work a little closer to the surface. (I suspect your small parts are fine because you hold the airbrush closer to them to lessen the overspray - I know I do!)

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Posted by Reasoned on Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:45 PM

VanceCrozier

 icer22x:

...

I spray at around 25 PSI and the paint is mixed well. I wonder if I am doing the strokes too fast and not letting the first coat dry enough? Still pretty new to airbrushing.

 

Not sure of the pressure, but if I get that rough texture it's usually because I haven't thinned the paint enough; or I'm spraying from too far away. (Or it's very dry & hot where I'm spraying) Either way, the paint is starting to dry before it hits the surface. I'd say dial the pressure back a little, use a little more thinner, and work a little closer to the surface. (I suspect your small parts are fine because you hold the airbrush closer to them to lessen the overspray - I know I do!)

Those are excellent tips , I also have that problem with certain colors (e.g. yellow, white)

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Posted by icer22x on Thursday, September 8, 2011 4:35 PM

Thanks Vance. All that makes perfect sense. I probably was too far away from the surface. I spray with a Badger Velocity, so it's a fine stream... sometimes I try to overcompensate by backing away too far. I need to be more patient when I airbrush large areas.

Also, can someone post a picture of their seam between the wing and the cowling? I don't think I will every be able to get that perfect. lol You can always tell they're two separate parts. How do you guys get it perfect?

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, September 9, 2011 11:38 AM

Even North American didn't get it perfect... The cowls are, after all, separate form the wing... You are refering to the intake scoop area, right?

There's a couple ways to go about it though.. Either the "putty & sand" or "caulk and wipe" method...

 I prefer using a stryene strip and shimming it though..

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Posted by Reasoned on Friday, September 9, 2011 2:33 PM

Okay Hammer or somebody, where in the heck do the following "little" decals go on the B-25J?

1)  "Fuel Sump Drain"

2) "Boost Pump Drain"

3) Battery Locator Forward Position Wheel Nacelle"

Edit: BAH never mind, just saw on the instruction sheet where they goEmbarrassed, there is an inset on the "Jaunty Jo" version (which I'm not building).

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, September 9, 2011 2:36 PM

Depends on what decal sheet and kit instructions you're using, R-man.. They're just letter call-outs..  No way I can read the stenciling itself.. Not that I use it anyway.. Battle-damage, sheet-metal touch ups, all that stuff ya know...

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Posted by Reasoned on Friday, September 9, 2011 2:46 PM

Hans von Hammer

Depends on what decal sheet and kit instructions you're using, R-man.. They're just letter call-outs..  No way I can read the stenciling itself.. Not that I use it anyway.. Battle-damage, sheet-metal touch ups, all that stuff ya know...

Heck I had to use a magnifying glass to make it out, amazing they can print that lettering so small.  Have you ever used "battle-damage", "sheet-metal touch ups" as an explanation to the rivet counters at a contest? Big Smile

Not that this is going in a contest.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, September 9, 2011 2:46 PM

Reasoned

Okay Hammer or somebody, where in the heck do the following "little" decals go on the B-25J?

1)  "Fuel Sump Drain"

2) "Boost Pump Drain"

3) Battery Locator Forward Position Wheel Nacelle"

Edit: BAH never mind, just saw on the instruction sheet where they goEmbarrassed, there is an inset on the "Jaunty Jo" version (which I'm not building).

I really wanted to say "near the fuel sump drain...", but you already found them!! Wink

I had a few minutes last night, didn't want the hassle of setting up & tearing down the a/b so I brush painted the interior of the fuselage with good ol' Testor's Zinc Chromate. Looks too yellow to me though, I'll have to add some green to the wash I'll be doing.

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Posted by Reasoned on Friday, September 9, 2011 2:53 PM

VanceCrozier

I had a few minutes last night, didn't want the hassle of setting up & tearing down the a/b so I brush painted the interior of the fuselage with good ol' Testor's Zinc Chromate. Looks too yellow to me though, I'll have to add some green to the wash I'll be doing.

Vance, as you may know, not sure you're using acryilic or enamel but testors enamel makes a

green zinc chromate

 

and yellow zc              

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, September 9, 2011 6:17 PM

Have you ever used "battle-damage", "sheet-metal touch ups" as an explanation to the rivet counters at a contest?

No... I only enter dioramas, so I glue on little strips of .010 styrene, then sand them down even thinner to represent the patches, then paint then a different shade of the base color, depicting "new paint", as Shep Piane did on his B-17 diorama.

I figure even the densest rivet-counter can understand that much... And they ain't so bright as to know where EVERY stencil is on EVERY plane...

 

I also use parts form "newer" planes to depict the repairs..

 

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Posted by Reasoned on Friday, September 9, 2011 10:33 PM

Hans von Hammer

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/HansvonHammer/Screenshots/Models/B17/b17g_4-a.jpg

 

Indifferent   Wow!  I had never seen that before, that looks awesomeBeer.  Was that inspired by a specific photograph?  I have seen pix of 17's making it back chewed up by flak or fighter canon, your's looks VERY real.

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Saturday, September 10, 2011 7:19 AM

Reasoned

 

 Hans von Hammer:

 

 

 

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/HansvonHammer/Screenshots/Models/B17/b17g_4-a.jpg

 

 

 

Indifferent   Wow!  I had never seen that before, that looks awesomeBeer.  Was that inspired by a specific photograph?  I have seen pix of 17's making it back chewed up by flak or fighter canon, your's looks VERY real.

thats not Hans' dio, that one belongs to Shep Paine:

http://sheperdpaine.com/monogram/B-17_sheet.pdf

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Posted by Reasoned on Saturday, September 10, 2011 7:47 AM

CallSignOWL

 Reasoned:

 

 Hans von Hammer:

 

 

 

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/HansvonHammer/Screenshots/Models/B17/b17g_4-a.jpg

 

 

 

Indifferent   Wow!  I had never seen that before, that looks awesomeBeer.  Was that inspired by a specific photograph?  I have seen pix of 17's making it back chewed up by flak or fighter canon, your's looks VERY real.

 

thats not Hans' dio, that one belongs to Shep Paine:

http://sheperdpaine.com/monogram/B-17_sheet.pdf

Thanks Owl Embarrassed (learn something new everyday) , that is some very impressive work, I can hand it to builders who not only build skillfully..... but create. 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, September 11, 2011 12:35 AM

Yeah, that tail pic is Shep's.. The bottom pic is my (now destroyed) B-17..

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Posted by Reasoned on Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:48 AM

Hans von Hammer

Yeah, that tail pic is Shep's.. The bottom pic is my (now destroyed) B-17..

Why "destroyed", I thought it looked cool w/ladder and parted out stripping.  Was that the theme?

BTW, hope to have some pix by tonight of an almost complete 25...... with any luck.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, September 11, 2011 11:06 AM

Well, it had crash-landed in Scotland, where it was about to be salvaged... However, a 9-lb tomcat named Chewy destroyed for good, forcing it into a power-off dive from the top shelf in the War Room to the floor before I could finish the diorama...

The diorama was one of my "behind the scenes" stories... The USAAF in England had Aircraft Recovery Teams that would go about the British Homeland in search of crippled bombers and fighters that had made it back to England, but not to a base...

Once they located an aircraft, they would survey it and determine if the aircraft was repairable or needed to be scrapped.   If it was deemed repairable, and there was sufficient room for a take-off, they'd get it back into nominal flying condition, and sky it back to a base for further repairs.  In this case, they determined that the aircraft was flyable if it had a couple of engines changed out and some flight-control damage repaired...

On the diorama, I also had a couple of Tamiya 2 1/2 ton trucks planned, as well as a towed air compressor, portable engine hoist, and team tent (This mission would take a few days to accomplish, so they need a place to live).  The teams first priority was to get the big bomber back on its wheels. 

They'd have pushed/pulled inflatable rubber jacks under the wings using the air compressor to inflate them, which would raise the Fort up high enough to get the wheels down.  Then the engine change could begin.  This was the "action" I had planned...

But the cat had other ideas...

 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, September 11, 2011 11:08 AM

I plan on doing the dio still.. It's too good an idea to not.. I'm stupid with 1/48 Monogram Forts .. Think I have four, plus the Revell "F"...

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Posted by Reasoned on Sunday, September 11, 2011 2:05 PM

Hans von Hammer

But the cat had other ideas...

 

What a shame.  Curious, was that its' 9th life or did you relent? Smile

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:07 PM

Actually, someone stole him... He used to sit out front of our apartment, "guarding HIS hallway"and he really loved EVERYbody that would come by.. Guess someone thought that that meant they could keep him...

Hope he wrecked their house...

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Posted by p38jl on Monday, September 12, 2011 7:34 AM

Cats...Whistling

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, September 12, 2011 8:00 AM

The cat was stolen... or was retrieved by his handler after years of spying on your operation?!?!

Reasoned - I'm using enamels inside as I prefer them for brush painting and I am indeed using the yellow ZC. (the "local" didn't have the green in stock) To be honest I was thinking "how yellow could it be?!", so I'll either mix it greener for the top coat, or a wash with a great deal of green in it. I didn't touch the cockpit areas yet. I wonder if a few drops of blue will green it up enough? Hmm

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Posted by Reasoned on Monday, September 12, 2011 2:45 PM

Vance, I've said it before, it's really a shame the interior has the detail it does because SO much of it will never be seen!  Sure the canopy and nose (if it's the glass version) will be seen but otherwise not much of fuselage section.  I will attempt to attach a group build attachment that has several takes on this kit, some actually painted it Yellow Chromate, while others Green.  Check out the "Terry Miesle" build.

http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/allies/us/usaaf/48b25.htm

 

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Posted by icer22x on Monday, September 12, 2011 8:50 PM

The instructions say the interior is olive green. How accurate is this?

Also, on the back of each nacelle, there are two antennas? Most finished kits I see of these Js, they are sanded off. Why is this?

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:16 AM

Reasoned

Vance, I've said it before, it's really a shame the interior has the detail it does because SO much of it will never be seen!  Sure the canopy and nose (if it's the glass version) will be seen but otherwise not much of fuselage section.  I will attempt to attach a group build attachment that has several takes on this kit, some actually painted it Yellow Chromate, while others Green.  Check out the "Terry Miesle" build.

http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/allies/us/usaaf/48b25.htm

 

Thanks for the link! Yep, I think I'll leave the fuselage interior as-is & expect to green it up a little with the wash. The brighter yellow ZC may allow a little more to be visible than the green ZC anyway. I think I do want to have the greener shade on the cockpit & tail gunner's area, as he did in that build review you noted.

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Posted by Shipwreck on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:38 AM

Reasoned

 >>>it's really a shame the interior has the detail it does because SO much of it will never be seen!  Sure the canopy and nose (if it's the glass version) will be seen but otherwise not much of fuselage section.  <<<

 

Has anyone seen or tried a cut away on the J kit?

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:48 AM

Hmm I keep looking at mine thinking about it - does that count!?

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:56 AM

Check that link, Icer..

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Posted by hutchdh on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:48 PM

She's coming together.....

Hutch

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