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1/48 B-25 Group Build! All Invited to Join!

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, October 21, 2011 2:31 PM

VanceCrozier

A reminder that I need to make some more progress!

Me too... But all those freakin' ribs I gotta put in the fuselage breaks is killin' me, dayum..

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Posted by p38jl on Friday, October 21, 2011 2:36 PM

I'm rooting for ya Hans..!

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, October 21, 2011 3:57 PM

Thanks... I got the front half done, and half of the rear fuselage... But I just can't get fired up on it right now...  In fact, Ihear cellos every time I look at it...

Da..dumm.... Da.. Dummm..

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Posted by Hemetrix on Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:46 PM

Hey Everyone!

 I am working on the Accurate Miniatures B-25C/D kit right now and could use some help. I am making a version with the four 50-cal MG's in the nose, but the glass is not painted over as I am doing the "Lucky Bat" ship (Aeromaster Decals - Marauding Mitchells III). 

 I do have some extras from Verlinden for the B-25 Accurate Miniatures series that might help, but I need some more info on what the nose is supposed to look like behind the glass. I don't want to use the kit machine guns for an unpainted nose for obvious reasons. 

 Were the fixed 50's in the nose suspended with cables or do I have to scratch build an assembly to hold the guns and the auto loader eqt?

 Also, does anyone know what other interior details might have been discarded for this mod of the B-25? Camera boxes, chemical toilet, etc. 

 I am having a heck of a time finding pictures or detailed info that would help me out. 

 Thanks for your help!

  - SR 

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Posted by Bilgerat on Sunday, December 4, 2011 12:23 PM

Hello all! I am wanting to build several B-25's as they appeared during the Doolittle raid using the Revell kit. What conversion kits will I need?


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Posted by TheWildChild on Sunday, December 4, 2011 3:50 PM

unless the guns were hald held in any way, i highly doubt that they would be suspended by cables. i know the 8-gun solid nose versions had solid racks to hold the guns with ammo below and between the guns kinda like a p-38. if it was a sort of "field modification" they may have been held up on a taught cable running either from the roof to floor, or from side to side(if its the four gun horizontal version you mean) but i cant find proof either.

 

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Posted by Bilgerat on Monday, December 5, 2011 3:30 PM

Well I picked up the first of sixteen Revell  B-25-j models today to see what all is involved in converting them to B's. I think I am going to have to make my own molds for the cowls and waist gun filler panels. Watch this thread to see how a 1/48 scale aircraft carrier comes together!

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, December 5, 2011 4:49 PM

Bilgerat

Well I picked up the first of sixteen Revell  B-25-j models today to see what all is involved in converting them to B's. I think I am going to have to make my own molds for the cowls and waist gun filler panels. Watch this thread to see how a 1/48 scale aircraft carrier comes together!

Hope you're pulling our collective legs... But, in case you are serious..

You're better off buying 16 Accurate Minuatures B-25Bs...  There's a lot more to change on the J to back-date it to a B than waist windows and cowls... Starting with the fuselage being shallower starting from aft of the bombay all the way to the tail. It just gets tougher from there...  Outside of the wings, props, and gear, there isn't much in J kit you could use to accurately portray a B...  Although, you could get it to look like a J that's supposed to look like a B, like the B-25J/PBJ-1J "Special Delivery" that was vis-modded to look like the "Doolittle Raiders" B-25B..

"Special Delivery" prior to her "costume-change"

After as the  vis-mod. Actually, it looks closer to the A-model if you ask me, due to the lack of the turret)

B-25B:

 

Watch this thread to see how a 1/48 scale aircraft carrier comes together!

Heh.. Doncha think that that'd be better-suited in the "Ships Forum"?  Hpw long would a 1/48th scale "USS Hornet" be anyway? I'm thinking that a mobile home would be a starting point for the hull, no?

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Posted by Bilgerat on Monday, December 5, 2011 5:20 PM

I wanted to post here because I needed info on the planes, not the boat. And I don't pull any body's leg. Last year I sold a 1/6 scale B-25j ( G.I. Joe scale) Now I am using the money to Build the Hornet in 1/48. That works out to be 17' long. But enough about the boat, is the old Revell B-25B still available? I chose the Revell kit because of the price. Any other suggestions?

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Posted by Shipwreck on Monday, December 5, 2011 5:40 PM

Bilgerat, the AM and Revell B's are out of production. They do show up on ebay, but it will cost you time, patience, and bucks - X 16.

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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Posted by Bilgerat on Monday, December 5, 2011 5:49 PM

Thanks Shipwreck, I still have all my reference material from my 1/6 scale B-25 so I think I will have to make my own conversion kits. I will post photos as I progress and you folks can steer me in the right direction.Big Smile

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Monday, December 5, 2011 6:43 PM

A 17` Hornet model, eh?  Maybe if you scratchbuild some cushions it could double as a couch...Big Smile

All kidding aside, the biggest carrier model I`ve seen was a 1:72 scratchbuilt Essex class. Is this being built for someone or just for yourself?  If I had the room to do it I`d surely give it a shot. Good luck.

Len

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Posted by Bilgerat on Monday, December 5, 2011 8:02 PM

I only build for myself, but never turn down an opportunity to help others. Right now I am just finishing up an eight foot Destroyer and a twelve foot cruiser. All my models are transported in a construction trailer. The Hornet will be moved in three sections. I will also be detailing the hanger decks with carrier aircraft.

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Monday, December 5, 2011 8:23 PM

Bilgerat

I only build for myself, but never turn down an opportunity to help others. Right now I am just finishing up an eight foot Destroyer and a twelve foot cruiser. All my models are transported in a construction trailer. The Hornet will be moved in three sections. I will also be detailing the hanger decks with carrier aircraft.

OK...Just curious, what do you do with these monstrous builds when you`re done? Do you display them somewhere? I build mostly 1:48 aircraft and have trouble finding room for some of them so I was just wondering what you do with the completed models.

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by Bilgerat on Tuesday, December 6, 2011 3:55 AM

I have a workshop in my back yard for assembly purposes but I rent space at an indoor storage facility not far from where I live. I used to build in the basement, but my wife was getting tired of the clutter.lol

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Posted by Shipwreck on Tuesday, December 6, 2011 9:10 AM

We have a 1/72 Hornet with a deck full of Doolittle B-25's in the SC State Museum. It is BIG! During the war they trained B-25 crews out of Columbia airport. One was recoved, a B-25C, from Lake Murray a couple of years ago.

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, December 6, 2011 10:06 AM

Were the fixed 50's in the nose suspended with cables or do I have to scratch build an assembly to hold the guns and the auto loader eqt?

This is about the best I could find.. The guns are mounted along the wall of the nose with the ammo cans located in the center. A four-gun ship would be about the same set-up, but obviously you'd leave out the Norden and  bomb-panel on the left side-wall..

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Tuesday, December 6, 2011 4:00 PM

Shipwreck

We have a 1/72 Hornet with a deck full of Doolittle B-25's in the SC State Museum. It is BIG! During the war they trained B-25 crews out of Columbia airport. One was recoved, a B-25C, from Lake Murray a couple of years ago.

Did they do a documentary on that recovery? I remember watching them recover a "C" with the bottom turret still there. They pulled it up on the beach and cleaned her out...full of mud...and discovered tons of goodies inside.

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by Shipwreck on Tuesday, December 6, 2011 5:54 PM

There was a documentary at the Lake Murray Visitors Center; but I was not able to get a copy of it. If my memory serves me, it was not that helpful. If you are interested in photos; Google Lake Murray B-25 and you will be busy for awhile.

I have a 1/72 AMT B-25C in my stash that is destined for a diorama sometime in the distant future. I vision is to depict it on the bed of Lake Murray. It was 150 feet below the surface and got twisted up a little, lost an engine. and a vertical stabilizer. It may take a couple of AMT kits before I can get it bent correctly!

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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Posted by Bilgerat on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 4:03 PM

Ok, so I started cutting and grinding the fuselage ,wings and engine cowls of the "J" to look like a"B". I like to take the road less traveled I guess. Does any one have a good scale drawing of a "B" or can tell me the dimensions of the small windows on the sides of the fuselage? I hope to have some photos up tomorrow night.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, December 8, 2011 1:51 PM

Don't forget that the J also had a deeper rear fuselage...

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Posted by Bilgerat on Thursday, December 8, 2011 4:54 PM

By deeper, do you mean longer or the belly hangs lower?Stick out tongue

 

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Posted by Shipwreck on Thursday, December 8, 2011 6:44 PM

According to B-25 Mitchell in detail by Bert Kinzey, starting with the "H" variant the fuselage was 7 inches deeper. According to Kinzey, this was done to accommodate the new Bell turret. The "H" and "J" variants have a distinctive greenhouse on their tails.

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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Posted by Bilgerat on Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:12 AM

So yesterday I cut the tail section from the rear of the elevators,back,  at a 75 degree angle from the perpendicular to accommodate the glass dome tail section of the "B". Now when I look at the fusalage from the rear, it looks kind of like a square hole. My question is; was the "B" more rounded at the point where the glass meets the frame work?

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Posted by Bilgerat on Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:28 AM

 

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Posted by Bilgerat on Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:35 AM

Does any one have a set of the Accurate Miniatures decal sheet for the Doolittle B-25 that they could scan and send to me?

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, December 12, 2011 8:15 AM

Yeah, I think I got one around here..

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, December 12, 2011 8:15 AM

Bilgerat

By deeper, do you mean longer or the belly hangs lower?Stick out tongue

 

Lower...

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:43 PM

Gotta mark this group for when I start my Mitchel in the spring Big Smile Way to go Hans starting this group, err thread, or well, yeah Yes

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Handsome Rob on Friday, December 30, 2011 4:13 PM

I just started a B-25J last week so count me in...I will go snap some pics of my progress and post them a little later.  I will be building the Revell B-25J OOB.

 

On the Bench: , Tamiya 1/48 Corsair Birdcage, Revell B-25J, Tamiya 1/48 Spitfire Mk. I

Up next: Revell 1/48 A-6 Intruder

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