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  • From: Searcy, AR
Posted by icer22x on Monday, September 5, 2011 7:11 PM

What do you use to wipe off unneeded excess? Wet paper towel? I just picked some up here - can't wait to try it. I HATE puttys with a passion. HATE them.

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Posted by hutchdh on Monday, September 5, 2011 6:48 PM

Go with the acrylic caulk...the silicone usually does not take paint well.....I am talking about the stuff that has a lot of silicone in it as more of a sealer vice caulk.

Hutch

 On the Bench: 1:48 HobbyBoss Ta152-C; 1:48 & 1:72 Hasegawa F-104G NATO Bavaria

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Posted by troublemaker66 on Monday, September 5, 2011 6:29 PM

Stay away from the silicone stuff, though.

[/quote]What exactly kind of caulk did you use and why can`t you use silicone if you shouldn`t need to sand?

Len Pytlewski

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Posted by hutchdh on Monday, September 5, 2011 5:58 PM

Hans von Hammer

Might wanna send that in to the Reader Tips before some unsrcrupuled bassige does it after reading the shared info here...   It's happened to me... Someone gets paid for a tip I FREELY gave up...

Done!!!!

Hutch

 On the Bench: 1:48 HobbyBoss Ta152-C; 1:48 & 1:72 Hasegawa F-104G NATO Bavaria

In queue: 1:48 Academy F-4B & a TBD Eric Hartmann bird

Recently completed: 1:32 Trumpeter P-51B

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  • From: Northern Virginia
Posted by hutchdh on Monday, September 5, 2011 5:58 PM

I just applied a healthy amount and wet the ole finger and glided it along the seam.  The shape of your finger gives it the necessary angle.  One of my seams shrunk a little...all I had to do was reapply. 

I picked the caulk up at Home Depot.  That is where you can find the one I used.  You shouldn't have to sand.  Stay away from the silicone stuff, though.

Hutch

 On the Bench: 1:48 HobbyBoss Ta152-C; 1:48 & 1:72 Hasegawa F-104G NATO Bavaria

In queue: 1:48 Academy F-4B & a TBD Eric Hartmann bird

Recently completed: 1:32 Trumpeter P-51B

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  • From: Searcy, AR
Posted by icer22x on Monday, September 5, 2011 5:55 PM

Yeah I saw that Hutch! Where can I get acrylic caulk? Any hardware store? I will go ahead and guess that since it's caulk, when it hardens there is no need for sanding? How do you get it fully flush? Just hope it dries like that?

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  • From: Northern Virginia
Posted by hutchdh on Monday, September 5, 2011 5:02 PM

Icer22x...take a look at page nine of this thread at my solution to the very same problem...it seems to work.  Hans suggested I send my Tip into FSM to may be publishes in a future issue....and I did just that this afternoon.  Hint...I found a way to effectively use acrylic caulk.....let me know what you think.

Hutch

Hutch

 On the Bench: 1:48 HobbyBoss Ta152-C; 1:48 & 1:72 Hasegawa F-104G NATO Bavaria

In queue: 1:48 Academy F-4B & a TBD Eric Hartmann bird

Recently completed: 1:32 Trumpeter P-51B

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Posted by icer22x on Monday, September 5, 2011 4:51 PM

Here is the inside of mine so far. No laughing!

Had to do the bombs in enamel. Waiting for Tamiya to get their colors shipped back in. I'd appreciate it if someone could post a picture of their fuselage at this step. I'm pretty stuck and don't know what I should add/fix (paint-wise).

Also... how in the world do you deal with seams like this so close to rivet detail? As you can see, I am masking off the detail and going to try and get some putty in there... I hope the tape prevents me from sanding it all away.

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  • From: Northern Virginia
Posted by hutchdh on Monday, September 5, 2011 6:10 AM

I just may do that...thanks...

Hutch

 On the Bench: 1:48 HobbyBoss Ta152-C; 1:48 & 1:72 Hasegawa F-104G NATO Bavaria

In queue: 1:48 Academy F-4B & a TBD Eric Hartmann bird

Recently completed: 1:32 Trumpeter P-51B

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, September 5, 2011 1:04 AM

Might wanna send that in to the Reader Tips before some unsrcrupuled bassige does it after reading the shared info here...   It's happened to me... Someone gets paid for a tip I FREELY gave up...

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Posted by hutchdh on Sunday, September 4, 2011 9:37 PM

My pleasure, Reasoned!!!  Cool  I am glad to see that stuff has more than one use.  I used a lot of it this weekend on the ole windows.....

Hutch

 On the Bench: 1:48 HobbyBoss Ta152-C; 1:48 & 1:72 Hasegawa F-104G NATO Bavaria

In queue: 1:48 Academy F-4B & a TBD Eric Hartmann bird

Recently completed: 1:32 Trumpeter P-51B

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  • From: Bent River, IA
Posted by Reasoned on Sunday, September 4, 2011 9:30 PM

hutchdh

 Reasoned:

On a bright note, I tried acrylic caulk for the (now messed up wing roots) and must say it works a heck of a lot better than putty.

 

My first convert!!!!!  I just layed down my first coat of Alcad Chrome on top of coat of Gloss Black.  The acrylic caulk is holding up well....  Monitor for shrinkage, before advancing!!!!  Glad you are getting back on track!!!

Hutch

Ha! I was trying to recall which member it was who planted that seed.  I'm glad to hear it took paint well (even though it says on the tube it's paintable) your's looks fantastic.  It's one thing to take a heavy smattering of latex house paint after filling in a trim casing gap and quite another on a plastic model.  Thanks again Hutch! Wink

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

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  • From: Hancock, Me USA
Posted by p38jl on Sunday, September 4, 2011 9:28 PM

Yes

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Sunday, September 4, 2011 5:18 PM

hutchdh

As mentioned above, I just laid down a coat of Alclad Chrome:

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad87/Hutchtheman/B-25J/FirstcoatofAlclad001.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad87/Hutchtheman/B-25J/FirstcoatofAlclad002.jpg

Cool Shiny!!! Cool Looks good from here, itching to start on this once my other stuff is cleared up. I'm lurking & taking notes in the meantime! Wink

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Posted by hutchdh on Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:18 PM

As mentioned above, I just laid down a coat of Alclad Chrome:

Hutch

 On the Bench: 1:48 HobbyBoss Ta152-C; 1:48 & 1:72 Hasegawa F-104G NATO Bavaria

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Recently completed: 1:32 Trumpeter P-51B

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  • From: Northern Virginia
Posted by hutchdh on Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:13 PM

Reasoned

On a bright note, I tried acrylic caulk for the (now messed up wing roots) and must say it works a heck of a lot better than putty.

My first convert!!!!!  I just layed down my first coat of Alcad Chrome on top of coat of Gloss Black.  The acrylic caulk is holding up well....  Monitor for shrinkage, before advancing!!!!  Glad you are getting back on track!!!

Hutch

Hutch

 On the Bench: 1:48 HobbyBoss Ta152-C; 1:48 & 1:72 Hasegawa F-104G NATO Bavaria

In queue: 1:48 Academy F-4B & a TBD Eric Hartmann bird

Recently completed: 1:32 Trumpeter P-51B

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  • From: Bent River, IA
Posted by Reasoned on Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:55 PM

Hans von Hammer

 Reasoned:

This kit (B-25J)  is going to be the death of me.Bang Head  Wings didn't stay on, canopy is a mess, masking is all wrong,  etc....

 

Did you put the glue on the wing spars? Or just the wing-edges where they meet the fuselage?  Ya gotta do the tops of the spars too... This is where Testor's black bottle comes in...

Oops Embarrassed, just the wing edges.... and boy did I goober it up. Did a bunch of CA since the cement didn't do the trick. 

On a bright note, I tried acrylic caulk for the (now messed up wing roots) and must say it works a heck of a lot better than putty.

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, September 4, 2011 2:12 PM

Reasoned

This kit (B-25J)  is going to be the death of me.Bang Head  Wings didn't stay on, canopy is a mess, masking is all wrong,  etc....

Did you put the glue on the wing spars? Or just the wing-edges where they meet the fuselage?  Ya gotta do the tops of the spars too... This is where Testor's black bottle comes in...

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    February 2003
  • From: Northern Virginia
Posted by hutchdh on Sunday, September 4, 2011 1:12 PM

Reasoned

This kit (B-25J)  is going to be the death of me.Bang Head  Wings didn't stay on, canopy is a mess, masking is all wrong,  etc....

Hang in there, buddy....  Hope you don't have one of those Murphy's law kits.  The F-86 is my personal curse.  Every time I attempted to build one, even with different scales, it turned into a disaster.  And some kits just fall into place....

Hutch

 On the Bench: 1:48 HobbyBoss Ta152-C; 1:48 & 1:72 Hasegawa F-104G NATO Bavaria

In queue: 1:48 Academy F-4B & a TBD Eric Hartmann bird

Recently completed: 1:32 Trumpeter P-51B

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  • From: Bent River, IA
Posted by Reasoned on Sunday, September 4, 2011 1:05 PM

This kit (B-25J)  is going to be the death of me.Bang Head  Wings didn't stay on, canopy is a mess, masking is all wrong,  etc....

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

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  • From: Searcy, AR
Posted by icer22x on Sunday, September 4, 2011 12:21 PM

Hans von Hammer

 

 

 

First, welcome to the build.. No pressure, no dead-lines.. Anyone can play, and at any time..

Now regarding the wash...  A wash is used to add depth rather than show wear, in your case...  After using a wash to darken the recessed areas, you might try drybrushing with a lighter shade of the base-color.. Then drybrush over the raised detail, just catching the edges of the ribbing... Then lighten the color again, and go over even more gently than before. Next time, your drybrush shade should be almost white..   Since this is an interior with a limited view, it won't hurt to exagerate a bit.. I always close up the fuselage with tape and try to see what I can see, then take it apart again, and do another thing..

Got any pictures of what your Mitchell looks like at this point?

Sure I will post some later. And thanks for the information about the wash. I'm always learning in this hobby. After spraying the inside with olive green and doing the wash, I was kind of stuck on what to do next. I dry brushed the ribs with some aluminum... That was probably the wrong color to chose now that you mention doing the lighter shades of the base color.

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  • From: Northern Virginia
Posted by hutchdh on Saturday, September 3, 2011 12:05 PM

Hans von Hammer

Priming? Sjeesh, I'm still workin' on the interior and top turret, lol...

Thats 'cause you are going the extra mile in interior detailing.  I gave the inside a cursory green smattering and did rudimentary stuff in the cockpit.  Staight OOB with a little seam filling here and there.  I am just enjoying the build and will give a little more TLC to the exterior NMF.  I want this to hang from the ceiling, so I am not even worried about a tail sitter, and one will not be able to see the inside.  Again, I am having fun with this one.

Since last post, I went over the primer with 1500 grit sand paper and it is very smooth...give ole little Mitchell another bath to take the residual primer dust off.  Waiting now for the model's cracks and crevices to dry...I may start laying down some Alclad tonight or sometime this weekend.

Hutch

 On the Bench: 1:48 HobbyBoss Ta152-C; 1:48 & 1:72 Hasegawa F-104G NATO Bavaria

In queue: 1:48 Academy F-4B & a TBD Eric Hartmann bird

Recently completed: 1:32 Trumpeter P-51B

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, September 3, 2011 10:55 AM

Priming? Sjeesh, I'm still workin' on the interior and top turret, lol...

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  • From: Northern Virginia
Posted by hutchdh on Saturday, September 3, 2011 7:24 AM

Gave my kit a bath last night in preps for priming.  Will post a few pics later.  Not too far from laying down the first coats of Alclad. 

Hutch

 On the Bench: 1:48 HobbyBoss Ta152-C; 1:48 & 1:72 Hasegawa F-104G NATO Bavaria

In queue: 1:48 Academy F-4B & a TBD Eric Hartmann bird

Recently completed: 1:32 Trumpeter P-51B

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, September 1, 2011 10:36 PM

icer22x

Amateur builder here... my model is probably going to be lacking all historical detail, but I'm in. Just started this kit actually. Just got the inside halves painted Tamiya Olive Green and washed it with a dark brown to show wear. I dry brushed some aluminum in places you can see through the turret bays and cockpit.

First, welcome to the build.. No pressure, no dead-lines.. Anyone can play, and at any time..

Now regarding the wash...  A wash is used to add depth rather than show wear, in your case...  After using a wash to darken the recessed areas, you might try drybrushing with a lighter shade of the base-color.. Then drybrush over the raised detail, just catching the edges of the ribbing... Then lighten the color again, and go over even more gently than before. Next time, your drybrush shade should be almost white..   Since this is an interior with a limited view, it won't hurt to exagerate a bit.. I always close up the fuselage with tape and try to see what I can see, then take it apart again, and do another thing..

Got any pictures of what your Mitchell looks like at this point?

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  • From: Rothesay, NB Canada
Posted by VanceCrozier on Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:23 PM

icer22x - you found your way over - welcome!

This is kind of a "loose group build", feel free to post pics & questions etc. I've only checked out my kit a little bit & gave the interior a shot of primer. Looking forward to some more substantial work as we get into the fall though.

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Posted by icer22x on Thursday, September 1, 2011 1:20 PM

Amateur builder here... my model is probably going to be lacking all historical detail, but I'm in. Just started this kit actually. Just got the inside halves painted Tamiya Olive Green and washed it with a dark brown to show wear. I dry brushed some aluminum in places you can see through the turret bays and cockpit. That's where I'm at now.

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  • From: Bent River, IA
Posted by Reasoned on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:15 PM

VanceCrozier

 

If you do find that to be too much of a contrast, you can just over-coat the entire thing with a thin mist coat of one of your two colours to even things out a little.

Idea  Smile

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Posted by B17Pilot on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:32 AM

DoogsATX

http://i780.photobucket.com/albums/yy86/doogsatx/P-47D%20-%20Hairless%20Joe/file-43.jpg

I going use this reference for my P-47.  This is exactly the look I am shooting for.

  

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Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:36 AM

Reasoned

Wow! there is a lot of contrast on those finishes but they turned out great. Looks like you painted right over primer and not the gloss black they recommend? 

No, this was over gloss black...rest of the undersides were gray since the wing of this plane was replaced and, according to one school of thought, the underside was never painted. 

But gloss black's only necessary (and not entirely necessary) on the high-shine finishes. They're translucent, so the color beneath matters.

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