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1/48 Accurate Miniatures SBD-3 Dauntless (FINISHED)...

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cml
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Posted by cml on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 5:57 PM

Ah Joe, that's a real PITA!!!

I've been enjoying watching this build, as i also have this kit in my stash.

Thank you for pointing out the error though, i'll have to make a note and put it in my kit so when the time comes, i'll know it's not my poor modelling skills leading to the error.

It's a shame there is so much detail on the gun deck, otherwise surgery might have been a viable option.

Hopefully you receive a decent response from Academy, if you do, they'll be receiving an email from me.

Chris

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Posted by BrandonK on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 5:48 PM

 Here is the AM -2 sprue.

The two pieces DO appear to be different lengths.

And the AM -5 sprue.

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Posted by BrandonK on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 5:22 PM

  Ok, I have that exact kit. I just got it based on your current build here. So, WE gotta fix this. My kit was sealed and all the sprues were still in sealed bags for AM. I took these shots to give you reference to size based on what was in my "Midway SBD-2" to see if your kit is mixed up.

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Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 4:04 PM

That sucks the big ratatouille.  And I was getting all exited about watching this one come together.

Marc  

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 9:46 AM

I hope your email gets to the right person. Please let us know what happens and good luck. It sucks when you are on a roll and hit a brick wall like this.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 7:33 AM

PJ....not encouraging. I'm hoping that by email I will have better results.  Yes I might do surgery, but I would rather try to get the part first.  

Joe  

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 6:42 AM

Dog

I hope that you have better luck than me with Academy. I called their Edison NJ office several times and spoke to a gal named Ronny who though very polite, gave me the run around about my replacement part, a warped tank barrel. After months of waiting I finally gave up and fixed the part by carefully applying heat to counter the warp. Can't you slice off a section of the part to make things fit and maybe re scribe lines if needed?

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, June 30, 2014 11:56 PM

I just fired an email to Model Rectifier Corporation (aka Academy) in the hopes they sent me the part.  I'll advise on how their Customer Service is...

Joe

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Posted by Fly-n-hi on Monday, June 30, 2014 11:41 PM

Dude, that sucks.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, June 30, 2014 11:05 PM

Hang in there Joe bud.

                   

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, June 30, 2014 11:05 PM

yikes............................................................

                   

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Posted by bvallot on Monday, June 30, 2014 10:59 PM

That's a bummer to hear Joe.  I was just reading a review discussing the same thing.  I wondered if you would find the same thing with your kit.  I actually should be getting the Academy SBD-2 "Battle of Midway" boxing in the mail soon.  I can peak inside and see if it looks any different.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Monday, June 30, 2014 10:38 PM

Thanks everyone.  I hope some of you get some use out of the tutorial, which is my intent afterall.  PJ, I can't stand Vallejo washes either, or pretty much any of their "Air" product line.  I just don't see the reason for the hype.  Its like trying to airbrush Tempura paints (remember these?).  Maybe I just don't know how to use the stuff, but as long as Tamiya paints are available, I'll stick to those. 

Anyways, I got some bench time in last night, which involved assembly of the airframe.  This was bittersweet as you will see later.  I closed the fuselage without to much issue.  I had a little trouble getting the gunner seat in place, but a touch of Tenax took care of that.   Everything seemed to line up ok.

I tried something different this time and actually followed the instructions (I usually use them as a "loose" reference LOL).  I attached the fuselage to the lower wing, then glued the bottom front and the rear wing fuselage joint.  On the latter I used CA so it would sit flat.  I had some large gaps there that required putty.   (Here we can again see where the original owner of the kit painted the inner wing.)

I then added the upper wings and the fit was good....no issues at all.  I then started work on the front gun deck/ cowl area.  It was here that I ran right into a brick wall.  During test fitting of the forward fuselage and the gun deck above it,  There was a 1/8th inch gap (See photo). 

  

After about an hour of fiddling and cussing, I realized one of these two pieces (below) were wrong for the dash 3.......but which?. 

I briefly recalled that I did buy this kit second-hand, so something may have gotten mixed up.  But no, I cut all parts off the sprues?....WTF?   I then jumped on the net.  Research then revealed that AM quaility control had dropped the ball and mixed up the cowl parts with the "Midway SBD 3" release (my kit) and their dash 5 release.  Apparently the dash 5 was longer from the leading edge of the wing forward, which is why I have a longer gun deck piece and a huge gap.   

Unfortunately I will have to shelve this guy until I come up with a solution (can you hear the balloon deflating?).  Its my understanding that Academy is now boxing the AM Dauntless molds.  Perhaps they will replace it for me if I promise to buy an F-86?

postponed until further notice...let's see what happens....

Joe

 

 

 

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Posted by Marmaduke on Monday, June 30, 2014 8:43 PM

Excellent step by step! You make it look so easy! Also, great looking kit! Now I'm off to find me some of that wash!

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Posted by DWood538 on Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:48 PM

Of course another stunning build! I really appreciate the cockpit tutorial, that is exactly what I needed to clear up my questions on your cockpits. I love your WIPs so keep them coming!

-Derek

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, June 28, 2014 3:20 PM

That is some fantastic painting and shading that just adds tons to the cockpit. Beer

I have seen that wash either at Hobby Lobby or another hobby store and wondered how well that stuff works. I stay away from water based washes cause IMO they don't flow the same as the solvent type but your method here sure looks like it worked like a charm. I just may pick up a bottle of that stuff next time to try. I recently purchased a couple of bottles of Vallejo washes and I don't like how they flow, even with some Dawn in the mix to break up the surface tension.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, June 27, 2014 12:48 PM

Beautiful work on the cockpit. you have really made the details pop!

 

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Posted by Buckeye on Friday, June 27, 2014 11:21 AM

Mighty fine work there!  Thanks for the tutorial.  Will have to try out those Testors products.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, June 27, 2014 4:02 AM

Jeez!! I just ordered an AM SBD-4 Joe!!! Like I needed another kit! lol  I built a Monogram SBD that I used alot of parts from my spare Hasegawa SBD kit in the stash and after I built that one I had a desire to get an AM kit. Now that I've seen this build it was the tipping over that I needed to go ahead and grab one. Nice build and thanks for the interior build up tutorial. I'll be using that!

                   

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, June 27, 2014 3:27 AM

Thanks for all the kind words all.  

Reasoned, I've never had much trouble there.  I just make sure everything is glued down and dried.  I just wipe away with the brush until I'm happy with the look.  This method is sort of like the opposite of an oil wash I suppose.  Oil washes scare me. This method is foolproof.  I'm all about finding the easy way out and exploiting it. 

Bvallot, no doubt, get one.  I'm considering getting several more.  Yes, it was the "perfect storm" so to speak for a tutorial, especially since it came with a PE fret.  I hope the rest of the kit is as nice as the cockpit.  Unfortunately all my reading so far on the kit says everything except for IP, the pilot seat and the gunner seat will be hidden.  I'm glad I didn't waste my time with the sidewall PE detail.  

Rob, your welcome and welcome aboard.  Some of the best modelers in the world lurk in this forum and they have taught me plenty, as they will you.  

Mark, thank you.

Brandon, nice grab.  Thats were I got this one (the other 40% off at Hobby Lobby when they carried the good stuff..thats another story).......and thanks for the compliment.  

Joe  

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Posted by BrandonK on Thursday, June 26, 2014 4:54 PM

This build has me stoked. I went to EBay and found this kit and it was reasonably priced so I bought it for my stash. I have an urge to built some fighter bombers now. Thanks for the inspiration.

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Posted by RedCorvette on Thursday, June 26, 2014 10:40 AM

Very nice work.  Thanks for sharing.

Mark

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Posted by Rob S. on Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:54 AM

Wow, this is spectacular. I have now bookmarked this as my `go to `guide!! Many thanks and thanks for further strengthening my joy at joining this site earlier this year!!

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Posted by bvallot on Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:47 AM

Joe, another success story! lol. This Dauntless cockpit it sufficiently busy enough to warrant a walkthrough.  I think it's the perfect WW2 plane to do it for.  And I suppose this leaves no doubt for me now about the AccuMin kit.  This cockpit is gorgeous!!  All of this is right out of the box?

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Posted by Reasoned on Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:42 AM

Thanks Joe for the tutorial, the office looks sweet as usual.  Once you apply "The Detailer" and begin the water wash with brush, I'd imagine you have to be very careful around the fiddly bits, you do the entire CP that way?

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, June 26, 2014 4:08 AM

Thanks folks.  Mike, I have plenty more pictures.....get ready.  I'm back with installment number 2 regarding cockpit painting and weathering.  I left off with brush painting the various boxes and such.  Actually, once upon a time, I used to tediously tape off each box individually with strips of Tamiya tape and spray them.  Then one day I decided to try brushpainting them (out of pure lazyness) and low and behold, I really couldn't tell the difference.   Lets dive back in....

Once I have all boxes and such handpainted to my general liking, its time to drybrush to bring out the details. I use Floquil Bright Silver, but any silver enamel will do.  I don't know why, but enamels dry brush better.  Perhaps it has something to do with being oil based.  I use a flat stubby brush for this.  I generally don't get too carried away with this, just enough to make the details pop out a bit. On a sidenote, I also like to paint a box or other such detail on the sidewalls something colorful, to draw the eye in.  It may not be "correct" but it does the trick.  Here you will see I painted a cylinder light blue.  Correct?........no...but who cares.  I once painted an O2 tank in a Spit blue for the same reason (and caught s@#t about it.........lol).   

After drybrushing, I take a tooth pick and start "picking" (pun intended) out buttons and knobs.  With me, these can also be done in any color.  The most common colors I use are red and yellow, but I have been experimenting with blue lately too.  Some switches I leave silver.  Here the radio deck gets the treatment.

Photo etch has been added where appropriate.  On this one I used the seatbelts and instrument panels.  I did detail the turret with belts too.  I just don't think the AM Dauntless needs more than this. The cockpit is truly a masterpiece OOB.   Here I think I'm done, and should be ready for the next step in weathering. 

Its now time to prepare the surface(s) for the wash.  I use Testor's Gloss coat thinned with lacquer thinner as a barrier.  As you can see I keep my lacquer thinner in a pump bottle.  It dispenses just what you need and is highly recommended.  I've been doing this for years (note the condition of the bottle..LOL). 

I spray the gloss on everything until shiny.  It might take a few coats. 

Here we are all shiny.  You can start washing after about an hour.  This stuff dries fast.  I forgot Future a long time ago.  

Now for my favorite part.....the wash.  It just makes the whole thing come alive.  Here's my "go to" wash for just about everything.  The guy at my LHS told me to give it a try and I haven't looked back.  It's water based and easy to work with.  I like to mix the brown and black with varying degrees of intensities.  Just dip a brush and slop it on, its that easy. 

Here we are all washed up.  I let it "settle" for a half hour or so (I suppose you can do it the next day or longer if you want)...

Its now time to start removing the excess wash.  I take bowl of water and a paint brush and get to work "washing it"....literally.  The wash will re-liquify with the wet brush and it will slowly deteriorate and leave it in the crevices and such.  I periodically dry the brush off on a paper towel which helps it absorb more. 

Eventually it will look like this, which is where I generally stop.  It shows some of the drybrushing and still highlights all of the nice detail, such as the grooved gunner's floor and the wear from the pilot's feet on the floor.  This looks sufficient to my eye.

Next we are going to flat coat it.  I use Testor's Flat coat thinned with a few squirts of lacquer thinner.  This is still the best flat coat on the planet and I've never had the need to use anything else. 

Here's how it looks when done. I prefer an ever so slight sheen...like velvet. 

The final part is optional.  Sometimes I do it, sometimes I don't........depends on the cockpit.  It works best on lighter colored cockpits.  It involves an "airbrush" postshade which adds just a touch more dimension  The key is to dial down the pressure and get in close.  I use diluted XF-69 NATO Black mixed with XF-64 Red Brown and hit the crevices.  I also streak it downward a smidge.  (Note:  I keep this mixture pre-mixed in a glass bottle so I always have it on hand.) 

Well thats it.  We are done.  Here's the finished cockpit. 

I started assembling some of it. Is it me, or are the Eduard belts a tad overscale.  Maybe in the Dauntless these were huge.  Here's where I left off.

Well, thats how I do my cockpits.  The materials I use are fast drying and I can usually get a single engine fighter cockpit done in a few hours.  I hope some of you try some of these techniques.  Questions and comments are always welcome...

Joe

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Posted by SubarooMike on Sunday, June 22, 2014 8:03 PM

More pictures! Big SmileYes

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, June 22, 2014 6:10 PM

What a great step-by-step so far.

Thanks, Joe!

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Posted by Reasoned on Sunday, June 22, 2014 4:54 PM

Looking froward to this one Joe, AM kits are some of the best out there.  I think I remember reading that their molds have been moth-balled and not sold.

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Posted by bvallot on Saturday, June 21, 2014 8:36 PM

Well, that's all the convincing I needed.

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