lawdog114

Looking great Toshi. I must say I like the look of it as intended by Tamiya. I did their 1/48th scale chromed version and stripped it with Simply Green.

 

Toshi

allan

I knew this would turn out pretty. Im quite sure a number of modelers (like me) are scratching their heads thinking, why didnt I think of that before?

 

 

Toshi

I knew this would turn out pretty. Im quite sure a number of modelers (like me) are scratching their heads thinking, why didnt I think of that before?

To PlasticJunkie,

Thank you for your support through my project.

Toshi

That is certainly a clean and shiny bright model. As previously mentioned looks like either a trophy or an execs desk piece. 

Great job Toshi.

rescueranger01

Hey Toshi

Great build realy loved how you detailed the build as you went along, I bow to a mater crafter

Mike (aka) rescueranger

 

Toshi

roger_wilco

Fantastic job Toshi! Another home run for you my friend.If you keep this rate of building up the members here will need to start a fund to get you a hanger built to house them all in! Again excellent job!

 

Toshi

Fantastic job Toshi! Another home run for you my friend.If you keep this rate of building up the members here will need to start a fund to get you a hanger built to house them all in! Again excellent job!

wing_nut

Oooo...... SHINY. Nice jib.

 

Toshi

1943Mike

Absolutely a fabulous build of a beautiful bird! Do you ever sleep?

Mike

 

Toshi

Absolutely a fabulous build of a beautiful bird! Do you ever sleep?

Mike

patrick206

Toshi -

What a great concept, as one of the others suggested, it does look like those that some exec's had on their desks.

You have another fine accomplishment in your logbook of builds, now you're making me look like a piker, at most I finish maybe one or two 1:72 models per month.

Thanks for the posts and photos, (bet I'll check tomorrow and there will the completed 2nd Corsair.)

Patrick

 

Toshi

Bish

Toshi, that is a real beaut. I was dubious about how this would turn out given the chrome finish. But you have tackled it really well and pulled this off nicely.

 

Toshi

Toshi -

What a great concept, as one of the others suggested, it does look like those that some exec's had on their desks.

You have another fine accomplishment in your logbook of builds, now you're making me look like a piker, at most I finish maybe one or two 1:72 models per month.

Thanks for the posts and photos, (bet I'll check tomorrow and there will the completed 2nd Corsair.)

Patrick

To my fellow forum members,

Please except my apologies.  I completely missed these photos.  I got way too excited on my next build, Tamiya 1:32 F4U Corsair.

Toshi

infofrog

Looking forward to your next project Rick

 

Toshi

crown r n7

A real trophy mustang !

 

Toshi

Shipwreck

Toshi, congratulations on one unique build. It really turned out well and is a work of art!

 

Toshi

infofrog

Very nice What is your next project ? Rick

 

What's great is that I can utilize the first Corsair as a template.  My goal is to improve this final Corsair build as I feel this is Tamiya's best model.  Of course I will discriminate all other aircraft as I am a Corsair fan, so I have to say that!  LOL!

Thank you for the read and reply, your support means a lot to me.

Toshi

Hey Toshi

Great build realy loved how you detailed the build as you went along, I bow to a mater crafter

Mike (aka) rescueranger

Toshi, congratulations on one unique build. It really turned out well and is a work of art!

BrandonK

Even in color it looks B&W. Pretty cool Toshi. You went a direction I would never have considered and you pulled it off. That is one cool build. 

BK

 

Toshi

jeaton01

Bright!!

 

Toshi

GAF

Toshi,

She looks great!  The B/W photos make her look like something a North American manager might have on their desk in the 1940s.

Gary

 

Toshi

To tempestjohnny,

The process is almost the same except where the glued areas are, they must be sanded or etched.  Several parts were in need of paint.  Thanks for the visit and reply.

Even in color it looks B&W. Pretty cool Toshi. You went a direction I would never have considered and you pulled it off. That is one cool build. 

BK

Bright!!

Toshi,

She looks great!  The B/W photos make her look like something a North American manager might have on their desk in the 1940s.

Gary

infofrog

Very nice rick

 

Toshi

Gamera

WOW! She turned out beautiful! And I love the B&W photos, sorta a noir look to her!

Blast you Toshi, you've seduced me into strongly considering buying the 1/32nd Zero for a Christmas present for myself and now you're luring me into wanting the P-51 too!!!

 

Toshi

This is it's final pose in-flight version.  I think it looks good flying.

Toshi

WOW! She turned out beautiful! And I love the B&W photos, sorta a noir look to her!

Blast you Toshi, you've seduced me into strongly considering buying the 1/32nd Zero for a Christmas present for myself and now you're luring me into wanting the P-51 too!!!

I did the final shot in normal color.  The exterior is so bright, you can't see any details at all.  Too much "BLING BLING"!  So I remembered how my daughter enjoys shooting in black and white; "She says it shows in it's true way".  Hence the three black and white photos.  Even she liked it and said; "Dad, you did a good job".  Don't forget, this whole silver Stang was her idea in the first place.  Thanks to BrandonK, this Stang is called "Silver Surfer".  Thank you BrandonK for that analogy.

If I told you this kit was not difficult and did not frustrate me, I am a blantant liar.  Intricate parts, PE, some directions not as clear, and finger prints were just some of the small things that occurred.  The silver plated chrome parts just needed a little TLC and sanding and or etching of parts to be glued was all it needed to be completed.

As far as the build?  The Merlin engine is a treat to assemble.  Everything falls exactly in it's required space.  Then came the oil cooler, cockpit, and radio.  These items mentioned are all connected as a one piece structure to the Merlin.  This was a very cool and neat idea, thumbs up to Tamiya!

In the rest of the build, I had some jiggling to do prior to glueing, this of course was my fault.  I'm happy to proclaim my three new techniques, dry fit, dry fit, and dry fit!  Other than what I mentioned, I'm very happy with the "Silver Surfer", it is a unique and one of a kind build.

Toshi

infofrog

There sure is a lot parts to that build . Makes me think of my helicopter builds Rick

 

Toshi

scottrc

Liking what I am seeing Toshi. Its almost looks like your building a 1:1 scale plane.

 

Toshi

allan

Lovin it! Sort of gets into my "why didnt I think of that?" list.

 

Toshi

I finally got the Stang to sit on it's wheels.

Lovin it! Sort of gets into my "why didnt I think of that?" list.

Here's some progress.

Toshi

roger_wilco

Toshi,

She sure is looking good.I swear you can complete a complex kit like this faster than I could build a snap tite kit!

 

Toshi

Toshi,

She sure is looking good.I swear you can complete a complex kit like this faster than I could build a snap tite kit!

To my fellow forum members,

There's not much to show yet, I will say that there were many pieces to these 2 parts that it took several hours to assemble.  Please see below.

Toshi

M. Brindos

It is looking good so far, my friend. And I did catch that Golmember reference as well LOL! Shmoke and a Pancake?

I think you should make a gold one later lol. Maybe as time progresses you could even manage to make a Bronze one as well. Then you'll have the Olympic set LOL!!

 

Toshi

It is looking good so far, my friend. And I did catch that Golmember reference as well LOL! Shmoke and a Pancake?

I think you should make a gold one later lol. Maybe as time progresses you could even manage to make a Bronze one as well. Then you'll have the Olympic set LOL!!

infofrog

Looking very nice Rick

 

It's 2:15am EST.  I can't go to sleep so here are a few photos of my work this very early morning.

Toshi

With three months experience, this is what disaster I created.  At least I learned from this mistake and have moved forward.

allan

Im really liking this Silver Stang! I dont think Ive ever seen one finished like this before.

 

As to your life in Zurich:

"we were forbidden to drink milk and any green leaf vegetables"

I wouldnt have had any problems with this. Especially the leafy vegetables part. lol.

 

Toshi

Im really liking this Silver Stang! I dont think Ive ever seen one finished like this before.

As to your life in Zurich:

"we were forbidden to drink milk and any green leaf vegetables"

I wouldnt have had any problems with this. Especially the leafy vegetables part. lol.

To my fellow forum members,

Just a theraputical practice for my brain in regards to memory.  Thank you for allowing me to share this with all forum members of FSM.  

Living in Europe, was a great experience for me, especially being only 18 years old and on my own.  My first trip was with my band "Jazz Attack", I was 17 then.  I set up a bunch of gigs, we went on tour to Amsterdam, Brussels Belgium, Paris France (To perform and celebrate the 200th anniversary of Bastille Day), and finally Zurich Switzerland.  That's the year Chernobyl blew up, we were forbidden to drink milk and any green leaf vegetables.  Yah, like that really help with all that nuclear practicals floating around!

Upon returning to the US, (I lived in Oakland, California East 14th Street, the ghetto and San Fransico) I realized how much respect as well as appreciation the Europeans had for jazz artists.  You see, in America, I was a starving musician.  In Europe, I was a jazz artist.  

Two years prior to this this was the year 1982, I left my home in Hawaii for bigger and greater things.  Little did I know of the struggle to be a responsible adult.  While classmates were dating and going to the prom, I was playing in jazz clubs.  I had rebuilt a 1966 Mustang three speed in line six.  After three days of driving it around in Oakland, a drunk driver totaled my "Stang".  I sold the heap of metal to a junk man named "Humble Harold" for $700.00, and wondered what my next step would be.

Well, needless to say, I bought several suits, a backpack, the type that you take when you go camping with a nap sack, purchased a one way ticket to Amsterdam with $20.00 in my pocket and off I went.  To keep this short, I lived there until 1991.  

I just wanted to share this with my fellow brothers and sisters of FSM Forum.  I hope you don't mind nor insult anyone.  If so, please forgive me in advance.

Getting into the main subject of modeling, after a delicious dinner that my daughter prepared of which was chicken and brocolli pesto pasta, I went straight to work on my Tamiya 1:32 P-51D Mustang Siver Chrome plated Edition.  What's really cool about this build is that I can reference my previous build of the same size and scale Tamiya Mustang.  I get to correct any errors made from my previous build.  So here is an update of this evenings endevours.

Toshi

I just love working with PE!

The completed engine detail.

Much more updates to follow very soon.  Thank you all for visiting my thread.

Gamera

Very cool Toshi, I haven't commented much since I don't have that much to say here but thanks for letting us follow along.

 

Toshi

Very cool Toshi, I haven't commented much since I don't have that much to say here but thanks for letting us follow along.

M. Brindos

You know, now you may have to follow this up with a "soild gold" build lol!

 

Toshi

You know, now you may have to follow this up with a "soild gold" build lol!

Bish

Really nice there Toshi. I do like what you have done with the pit and engine. I have the same issue when taking close up pics of 72nd cockpits, the pics make it look like the Himalaya's. Seems like your daughter is onto something there.

 

Here's what was assembled after breakfast.

Toshi

These are some shots to show what the silver pigment has brought out in the chrome plated Mustang.

This pic makes it look almost like a Twin Mustang.  LOL!

Here is what's been progressing as of Wednesday.  I have only one seam/gap at an eight of an inch and that's a quarter of an inch long that I have to deal with.  Other than that, I think everything went together very well.  Just like a typical tamiya kit.  Here are the results and build progress.

Toshi

allan

You beat me to it Brandon. lol

 

Toshi,

Some paints may have pigments that make them appear grainy when taking pictures, exactly as you said. This is especially true for metallic finishes. Since the 90s Ive only used Gunze when spraying on metallics. They have really fine paint pigments.

 

One product that I fine interesting are Flory Washes.  Thank you so much for your time that you've taken out of your busy schedule in teaching me of your experience with Gunze.  You sparked a great interest in me.  Thank you sir and thank you for the read and reply.

Toshi

scottrc

Dang Toshi,  I'm away for a few days and acome back to see that you are 40% into a very complex Mustang build.  And doing it well.  In the same time, I cannot even get a simple 1/72 scale Hurricane painted.

 

Toshi

You beat me to it Brandon. lol

Toshi,

Some paints may have pigments that make them appear grainy when taking pictures, exactly as you said. This is especially true for metallic finishes. Since the 90s Ive only used Gunze when spraying on metallics. They have really fine paint pigments.

Dang Toshi,  I'm away for a few days and acome back to see that you are 40% into a very complex Mustang build.  And doing it well.  In the same time, I cannot even get a simple 1/72 scale Hurricane painted.

BrandonK

I'm sensing a trend here Toshi................

BK

 

Toshi

Here is the next procedure.

To Subaroomike,

My daughter pointed out with the same concerns you've had.  When she analyzed the situation, she said; "The pigment in the Vallejo is affecting the photo shoot to look like it's rough like you have pointed out".  

She recommended switching over from acrylics to enamels.  So I reshot everything that was AB with Vallejo 70.997 to Model Master Silver Chrome Trim Enamel 273409.  What you see below is a improvement over what was utilized prior. 

Toshi

Here is the enamel with a Testors Clear Gloss Lacquer Spray from a rattle can 1261.

I'm sensing a trend here Toshi................

BK

This is why I rarly take pics of my builds.  The camera never does them justice, lol

No, not at all.  I used primers and then Vallejo silver followed by Testors clear lacquer.  Thanks for inquiring.

Toshi

The surface of the parts you painted silver look very rough, like sand paper.  Is this so in person?

Here's a great example of seams, glue, and CA.  No issues nor concerns at this juncture.

Toshi

Building of the cockpit.

PE Gunsight

Completed cockpit and engine bay.

Jay Jay

These parts you have shown are beautifully detailed and you're doing a fine job on the construction of them Toshi.  I am watching with great interest becuse I am anxious to see how you deal with the chromed body parts . I previously thought the factory chromed parts was an attractive feature until I read the comments on this thread and realized there could be a problem with hiding the seams and glueing etc.  Good luck with that.

 

Toshi

These parts you have shown are beautifully detailed and you're doing a fine job on the construction of them Toshi.  I am watching with great interest becuse I am anxious to see how you deal with the chromed body parts . I previously thought the factory chromed parts was an attractive feature until I read the comments on this thread and realized there could be a problem with hiding the seams and glueing etc.  Good luck with that.

Here's what's been done prior to Monday Night Football MNF!  Chicago Bears vs San Diego Chargers.

Toshi

Big scale, big parts sprues. You wont see that many cockpit parts on most 1/72 planes.

Shipwreck

Toshi, now that you have all those cockpit parts primed and painted, are you planning on scraping the glue points at the join location?

 

Toshi

Toshi, now that you have all those cockpit parts primed and painted, are you planning on scraping the glue points at the join location?

Here is spruce D ready for assembly.  It has been AB Vallejo silver with a seal of Testors Lacquer Clear.  Next step, assembly of the cockpit.

Toshi

Now moving on to the next step, I have spruce D of which consists of the majority of the cockpit.  This will also be AB primed of which you see here, AB Silver, and then with Testors Gloss Lacquer coat.  Paints and codes will be repeated unless otherwise stated.  thank you for the time and patience.

Toshi

Cross your fingers, there is no going back to this.  Here is the Merlin AB with Vallejo Silver 70.997, I also incorporated Vallejo Airbrush Thinner 71.261, a drop of Dawn Dish Soap, then sealed with Testore Lacquer Gloss Coat 1261 to match the exterior silver plating of the P-51D.

Next up is the cockpit.

Toshi

allan

This is going to be one interesting kit build. Definitely following.

 

So, Toshi, when you say you'll run into trouble, do you mean, with Mrs. Toshi and your ever growing collection?  My wife is very supportive of my hobby, but will not hesitate drawing the line whenever my kit displays (she calls them "base militar" --- "military bases") somehow find their way in, oh, say, common house areas. So every now and then I gravitate into Navy/Marine planes and build them with wings folded to save space. lol. 

 

Toshi

This is going to be one interesting kit build. Definitely following.

So, Toshi, when you say you'll run into trouble, do you mean, with Mrs. Toshi and your ever growing collection?  My wife is very supportive of my hobby, but will not hesitate drawing the line whenever my kit displays (she calls them "base militar" --- "military bases") somehow find their way in, oh, say, common house areas. So every now and then I gravitate into Navy/Marine planes and build them with wings folded to save space. lol. 

Here is the Merlin primered with Tamiya Liquid Lacquer Surface Primer G.  I love this stuff.

Toshi

wing_nut

If you should decide to scrap the chrome idea and use bleach or brake fluid to take it all off you will still need to sand the gluing surfaces like I saidearlier. To get that smooth chrome finish the parts are given a high gloss coat (lacquer?) that does not come off with the chrome. I learned the hard way when I did one the 1/48 chrome kids and the seams would pop open if I looked at it funny.

 

Toshi

Shipwreck

 

 

Toshi

 

 

Shipwreck

OK guys, put your seat builts on, this bird will be flying in no time at all! Actually, I frequently paint my aircraft with a prime or base coat of silver. What color is an aircraft before it is painted, or left in a NMF? I just wonder how the surface of this Mustang will hold paint. Show us Toshi

 

 

 

 

LOL!  You made my day!  I never thought of that, but you correct in that the primer is NMF.  I will not paint the exterior of the surface of the P-51D as it's been silver plated.

 

Toshi

 

 

 

 

 

O.K., now let's back up a minute here. When I said " I frequently paint my aircraft with a prime or base coat of silver", That is after taking care of all seams. If you join two chrome parts together; you are likely to be left with a seam. If you do not care about the seam that is O.K.; but if you intend on building a half-way decent model, you will have to fix it. That means if I were building a chrome plated Mustang, the first thing that I would do is strip the plating off (before assembly) and proceed as normal creating a NMF. If I were to join the two chrome parts and ended up with an inevitable seam; I would repair the seam, prime the whole (now assembeld)model, then proceed as normal. 

 

 

Actually, you cannot build this chrome plated kit right with the chrome plating. You cannot create panel variation on the fuselage or create the laminar wings.

 

Toshi

BrandonK

Okay Toshi, what is this, your fourth kit since I started my B-17. I'm still on the interior. You make me feel like I am not building at all. That plated styrene may pose some hiddin challanges, good luck.

BK

 

Toshi

SubarooMike

 

 

wing_nut

The Toshi Aircraft Company has production back up and running.

 

Since you are keeping the chrome and cannot do the proper jobs on the seams as a result, one thing to keep in mind.  You have to sand the chrome plating off the mating surfaces for glued parts or the plastic glue just won't hold.  

 

 

 

 

 

+1       Sand, sand, sand.  The Tam extra thin will not touch this stuff.  I say oven cleaner the whole thing haha.  That coating is a pain in the butt because you will always see seams and gaps. 

 

Toshi

wing_nut

The Toshi Aircraft Company has production back up and running.

 

Since you are keeping the chrome and cannot do the proper jobs on the seams as a result, one thing to keep in mind.  You have to sand the chrome plating off the mating surfaces for glued parts or the plastic glue just won't hold.  

 

Toshi

If you should decide to scrap the chrome idea and use bleach or brake fluid to take it all off you will still need to sand the gluing surfaces like I saidearlier. To get that smooth chrome finish the parts are given a high gloss coat (lacquer?) that does not come off with the chrome. I learned the hard way when I did one the 1/48 chrome kids and the seams would pop open if I looked at it funny.

Toshi

 

 

Shipwreck

OK guys, put your seat builts on, this bird will be flying in no time at all! Actually, I frequently paint my aircraft with a prime or base coat of silver. What color is an aircraft before it is painted, or left in a NMF? I just wonder how the surface of this Mustang will hold paint. Show us Toshi

 

 

 

 

LOL!  You made my day!  I never thought of that, but you correct in that the primer is NMF.  I will not paint the exterior of the surface of the P-51D as it's been silver plated.

 

Toshi

 

O.K., now let's back up a minute here. When I said " I frequently paint my aircraft with a prime or base coat of silver", That is after taking care of all seams. If you join two chrome parts together; you are likely to be left with a seam. If you do not care about the seam that is O.K.; but if you intend on building a half-way decent model, you will have to fix it. That means if I were building a chrome plated Mustang, the first thing that I would do is strip the plating off (before assembly) and proceed as normal creating a NMF. If I were to join the two chrome parts and ended up with an inevitable seam; I would repair the seam, prime the whole (now assembeld)model, then proceed as normal. 

Actually, you cannot build this chrome plated kit right with the chrome plating. You cannot create panel variation on the fuselage or create the laminar wings.

Okay Toshi, what is this, your fourth kit since I started my B-17. I'm still on the interior. You make me feel like I am not building at all. That plated styrene may pose some hiddin challanges, good luck.

BK

wing_nut

The Toshi Aircraft Company has production back up and running.

 

Since you are keeping the chrome and cannot do the proper jobs on the seams as a result, one thing to keep in mind.  You have to sand the chrome plating off the mating surfaces for glued parts or the plastic glue just won't hold.  

 

+1       Sand, sand, sand.  The Tam extra thin will not touch this stuff.  I say oven cleaner the whole thing haha.  That coating is a pain in the butt because you will always see seams and gaps. 

The Toshi Aircraft Company has production back up and running.

Since you are keeping the chrome and cannot do the proper jobs on the seams as a result, one thing to keep in mind.  You have to sand the chrome plating off the mating surfaces for glued parts or the plastic glue just won't hold.  

Bish

This is going to be interesting to watch. The one thing that would worry me is the gluing and sanding of the silver parts. Nice work on the engine, looks good so far.

 

Toshi

Shipwreck

OK guys, put your seat builts on, this bird will be flying in no time at all! Actually, I frequently paint my aircraft with a prime or base coat of silver. What color is an aircraft before it is painted, or left in a NMF? I just wonder how the surface of this Mustang will hold paint. Show us Toshi

 

Toshi

Up next is the Supercharger.

M. Brindos

That Merlin really looks great all assembled. You're off to your usual great start.  :)

 

Toshi

infofrog

I will be watching this build . I really love to have this model . Maybe one day Rick

 

Toshi

That Merlin really looks great all assembled. You're off to your usual great start.  :)

Here is a portion of the Packard Merlin 1,400hp V-1650-3.

M. Brindos

LOL Toshi. I'm just waiting for you to build more armor lol! These wing thingies are cool, and I enjoy building them too, but Armor is king lol!

Painting the entire model silver? Hmm... That could be quite challenging. Especially if you can eliminate the seams and still get a beautifully flawless finish.

I like it! Aim high my friend.  :D

 

Toshi

patrick206

Hi, Toshi -

It just dawned on me, you're stimulating the economy by hiring many people to help you build at this furious pace.

Sneaky, (and well done.)     (:>)

Beautious job on the F-15, I think I'll quit building and just look at your models, you've made huge advancements in such a short time, a very skilled model builder already.

Earlier today someone had jokingly mentioned a 1:72 Nimitz carrier, how about giving that a go, maybe that one would keep you occupied for, oh, say two weeks.

Keep 'em coming Toshi, thanks for all the posts and photos.

Patrick 

 

patrick206

Hi, Toshi -

It just dawned on me, you're stimulating the economy by hiring many people to help you build at this furious pace.

Sneaky, (and well done.)     (:>)

Beautious job on the F-15, I think I'll quit building and just look at your models, you've made huge advancements in such a short time, a very skilled model builder already.

Earlier today someone had jokingly mentioned a 1:72 Nimitz carrier, how about giving that a go, maybe that one would keep you occupied for, oh, say two weeks.

Keep 'em coming Toshi, thanks for all the posts and photos.

Patrick 

 

Mrs. Toshi continues to point at the Battleship Arizona.  Maybe that's something I'll go for that. 

As long as I can breath, I'll do my best to keep on building!  Your very kind to thank me in sharing my threads, my I say it's my pleasure!  Take care of your self and enjoy your weekend.

Yours Truly,

Toshi

LOL Toshi. I'm just waiting for you to build more armor lol! These wing thingies are cool, and I enjoy building them too, but Armor is king lol!

Painting the entire model silver? Hmm... That could be quite challenging. Especially if you can eliminate the seams and still get a beautifully flawless finish.

I like it! Aim high my friend.  :D

Here is the progress I made today!

Hi, Toshi -

It just dawned on me, you're stimulating the economy by hiring many people to help you build at this furious pace.

Sneaky, (and well done.)     (:>)

Beautious job on the F-15, I think I'll quit building and just look at your models, you've made huge advancements in such a short time, a very skilled model builder already.

Earlier today someone had jokingly mentioned a 1:72 Nimitz carrier, how about giving that a go, maybe that one would keep you occupied for, oh, say two weeks.

Keep 'em coming Toshi, thanks for all the posts and photos.

Patrick 

M. Brindos

Hopefully this one will challenge you a bit more than the F-15 did lol.

I've always wondered about these pre-plated kits and how well they will turn out. I know you won't disappoint Toshi. :)

Looking forward to this.  :D

 

 

 

Sometimes it doesn't turn out but at other times it makes me very excited with a sense of great accomplishment.  We can only see what happens.  Thank you my friend and sensei for always being there for me.  You've always got my back and I want to personally thank you for that!

Toshi

Hopefully this one will challenge you a bit more than the F-15 did lol.

I've always wondered about these pre-plated kits and how well they will turn out. I know you won't disappoint Toshi. :)

Looking forward to this.  :D

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