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Completed Zoukei Mura 1:48 Horten HO-229 with final set of stamps

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 8:38 PM

Great work there on the engine anf frame Toshi.

And really nice looking 229 there too CNQ.

BTW: The ZM (under the name Volks) 1/48th Shinden is still listed by HLJ, that's the version I have.

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 8:56 PM

Gamera

Great work there on the engine anf frame Toshi.

And really nice looking 229 there too CNQ.

BTW: The ZM (under the name Volks) 1/48th Shinden is still listed by HLJ, that's the version I have.

 

Thank you Gamera.  What's the difference between your version vs the other version?

Toshi

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 8:58 PM

I assume you're looking at the 1/32nd kit? The bigger kit does look at lot more detailed but as I generally build 1/48th I just went with it.

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:27 PM

Gamera

I assume you're looking at the 1/32nd kit? The bigger kit does look at lot more detailed but as I generally build 1/48th I just went with it.

 

No, the Zoukei Mura 1:32 series is well over $200.00.  If I buy that, Mrs. Toshi will kick me out of the house!  LOL!  I'm looking at the 1:48 Shinden.  I wanted to build the 1:32 Donier Arrow but the cheapest one was $240.00!  

Toshi

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:40 PM

Ah ok, I just assumed you were looking at the 1/32nd kit.

HobbyLink Japan has it listed for about forty-four. It's currently back-ordered but they usually get stuff like this back in stock fairly rapidly.

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 10:28 PM

Gamera

Ah ok, I just assumed you were looking at the 1/32nd kit.

HobbyLink Japan has it listed for about forty-four. It's currently back-ordered but they usually get stuff like this back in stock fairly rapidly.

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Thank you Gamera, I'll check the link now.

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 10:41 PM

To my fellow forum members,

These photos are in reference to the fueselage frame/spars.  The build starts off nicely and looks simple.  The deal here is as you progress, the parts needed to be assembled become much more intricate and deceptive too!  The next several assembly stages include smaller pieces needing to be pushed/pulled through a network of what looks like spider webs.  

Even with my visor, I can't tell if I'm doing this correct until I get to the next process and then see if it can dry fit without any issues.  Now that's the key we modelers are always looking for.  fit and finish.

So far, I will do a set stage, glue the pieces together and then stop for a half hour to read and browse through the net.  I don't even want to see my next steps.  This helps me in returning back to the build with a fresh mind and the excitement to see where this is going.  Thank you forum members for the read and replies.

Toshi

 

 

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 10:49 PM

Oh, I forgot to add, I assembled the frame/spars work with Tamiya Extra Thin Cement.  I let this dry while the styrene fuses together.  Once dried, I hit each attachment spot with a very small amount of CA about the size of this period at the end of this sentence.  

Do I need to do this?  No, but it definately gives me the confidence that the attachment joints will not come apart, it's like car insurance. LOL!  You be the judge.

Toshi

 

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Posted by allan on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 11:38 PM

Wow. Thats some frame youre putting together there!

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:15 AM

allan

Wow. Thats some frame youre putting together there!

 

As I've never built anything like this before, I'm in a state of shock. As I go through each steps, it's getting harder and harder to keep track of what I'm doing.  There's so many connecting points that are almost microscopic, the last thing I need is to torque and or cement the frame/spars in the wrong direction.  This will only lead to the entire fueselage frame to bend.  

That's my safest way to assemble the 229's frame.  If the additional part makes the frame torque, then I'll know for shure that something was not done properly.  So far, I have yet to prove my theory, and I want to keep it this way.  LOL!  Thank you for the read and reply.

Toshi

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:24 AM

I was lookin' in on this thread yesterday and meant to comment and then got busy. This looks like a mirror image of the 32nd scale kit that I have. I remember thinking to myself, "Man this aint no shake'n bake kit right here!!" . Once you get the skin on it you'll have alot more structural integrity with all this frame work you're building though. Good goin' so far Toshi! Yes

                   

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, May 19, 2016 11:59 AM

mustang1989

I was lookin' in on this thread yesterday and meant to comment and then got busy. This looks like a mirror image of the 32nd scale kit that I have. I remember thinking to myself, "Man this aint no shake'n bake kit right here!!" . Once you get the skin on it you'll have alot more structural integrity with all this frame work you're building though. Good goin' so far Toshi! Yes

 

I want to thank you sir for taking the time out of your busy work and family schedule and then to read and reply on my 229 thread, I'm most honored.  

So far, from what I've read and seen (Schematics on the Zoukei Mura site) the 1:32 kits come out first.  ie: Your SWS 1:32 Zoukei Mura HO 229.  Approximately a year later, Zoukei Mura releases the 1:48 so called SWS kits.  The only difference from these two scales is the size of the kit, 1:32 vs 1:48.  Of course the price point is a hundred dollar less.  

One of the schematics on the Zoukei Mura site shows the Kyushu Shinden engines assembly with both the 1:32 and 1:48 side by side.  You can't tell the difference.  The same quality and impeccable effort of the 1:32 is given to the 1:48 kits.  It's just a size issue.

Personally, as you and the many FSM Forum members know, I prefer building in 1:32.  I do not like to build in 1:48 or even 1:72.  In general, the later two scales tends to negate the fine detailing that 1:32 offers.  Most importantly, there are days due to my injury in that I'm unable to do 1:48 and 1:72 kits, my hands shake way too much.  

This fact does not play into Zoukei Mura kits.  It's the direct resemblance and consistency that sold me on to the 1:48 kits, not to mention the authentic accuracy in these kits.  On that note, if I bought the 1:32 ZM 229 and 1:32 Kyushu Shinden, I'll be way over my monthly allowance in how much I can spend in a month for my hobby.  Plus Mrs. Toshi will trade me in for a younger and much more handsome man.  LOL!

Now that I see that there are no differences except in scale, I'll build the ZM 1:48 kits since the details are accurately portrayed.  Also as the code of checks and balances is concerned, I will spend half my monthly amount of money on ZM 1:48 kits and still get the quality assurance throughout ZM 1:32 kits.

As for structural integrity, I'm leaning more and more into finishing this project and a unique one at that by negating the HO 229 outer skin and just portray the skeletal version of my HO 229.  With this many anchoring points, and establishing the wing spars, I think that the skeletal kit can be a sound and assured build with integrity.  Now you got me into thinking about purchasing another 1:48 Zoukei Mura HO 229 kit and finish that off with skin and completely paint the entire HO 229!  You see, now you got me even more excited!!!!  Thank you sir for this conversation, I so greatly appreciate and have the need to discuss and critique kits with you.  This is another layer of the love of building these kits.

Toshi

 

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, May 19, 2016 4:40 PM

This is stage #9, it took me most of the morning and I will probably still be on stage #9 after dinner.  As you can see, one wrong glue point and or one wrong attachment, this whole kit will definately fall apart.  One word to describe this kit, tedious!

Toshi

 

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:26 PM

Toshi that center frame work is looking great,I see what you mean by tedious.

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Posted by philo426 on Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:57 PM

Wow Toshi!this kit would require careful  study before gluing anything together, great job thus far!

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:40 PM

TREYZX10R

Toshi that center frame work is looking great,I see what you mean by tedious.

 

Thank you TREYZX10R.  It takes awhile to study/figure out what, where, and how certain pieces gets cemented together first.  As I mentioned previously, there is no room for failure/mistakes.  Yes, my one word to describe this kit is tedious!  I had a few to very little exposure to something of this magnitude of experiences.  

Please take the extra time out if you plan to build any of the Zoukei Mura SWS (Super Wing Series) kits.  I can now say that this is one of the best kits I've ever seen and that I am a rabid fan of Zoukei Mura SWS kits.  Thank you sir for your support in my threads as well as reading and replying on them as well.  This means so much to me.

Toshi

 

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, May 20, 2016 7:17 AM

philo426

Wow Toshi!this kit would require careful  study before gluing anything together, great job thus far!

 

Thank you philo426.  This is more like deciphering a schematic than a model kit build.  From what I see, 95% of the model is nothing but frame and spars work.  The last 5% are the clear skins.  In summary and to keep it simple, the instructions reads as thus, build two Jumo 004 turbo jet engines (A very straight forward build), assemble entire aircraft frame and spar for the 229 (The most complex and tedious build I've ever seen), attach landing gear and both Jumo 004 turbo jet engines, and finally slide all skin surfaces over the skeletal 229 frame work.

It reads pretty simple, there's not too much confusion.  Thank you should go out to the Zoukei Mura team for creating such an in depth assembly manual.  If the rest of the Zoukie Mura SWS (Super Wing Series) kits are anything like this build, then I can highly recommend all of the SWS series.  

I can confidently say that I really want to build the Kyushu Shinden.  What's so funny is that these kits that inspire me are all 1:48.  LOL!  As I reiterated earlier on this thread, I prefer to build 1:32 kits.  It's just that any Zoukei Mura SWS 1:32 kits cost twice as much as the 1:48.  What I find challenging in almost a zealot way is that the SWS 1:48 is an exact replica of the SWS  1:32 kits with the only difference in that of the scale in which to build in.  

A quick note, I am a huge fan of everything Tamiya until I saw this kit.  Of course I still am a Tamiya fan but the only difference now is that Zoukie Mura kits are now in my number one engineered kit of all time.  Although I've only started to build model kits for one year, you can quote me on this statement!

philo426, thank you so much in supporting my builds as well as being a huge contributer in my build threads.  You just don't know how much I appreciate this!

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, May 20, 2016 7:31 AM

Last night, I stayed up a little later than anticipated.  I got caught way too much in the build process.  I lost all sense in time due to tha fact that I became so excited with this build.  

This is the end for page #7 stage #10 and #11.  I'm getting real close to AB the frame/spar work.  If the rest of Zoukie Mura SWS (Super Wing Series) is anything like this build, I'm now their number one fan.  Please see below the assembly manual as well as the point of the end of stage #11.

Toshi

Just by looking at the frame work, you can tell which side is the front and rear of the HO 229.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, May 20, 2016 8:16 AM

Hang in there with it Toshi. It's gonna be a great build. Just take your time with it and resist the temptation to "get it done". That's one of my weaknesses when I want a certain part of a build to just be overwith. I have to fight that temptation all the time. lol

Lookin' good BTW! Yes

                   

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Posted by Greg on Friday, May 20, 2016 10:23 AM

Wow. And I thought Edward WWII fighters plane engine mounts were fussy.

Echoing Joe, go slow. Looking good, Toshi.

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, May 20, 2016 12:13 PM

mustang1989

Hang in there with it Toshi. It's gonna be a great build. Just take your time with it and resist the temptation to "get it done". That's one of my weaknesses when I want a certain part of a build to just be overwith. I have to fight that temptation all the time. lol

Lookin' good BTW! Yes

 

Oh, I'm definately hanging in here by the tips of my fingertips.  LOL! On this kit, I do not feel the urge to get it done, I think this is the first kit since I started a year ago in that I'm taking the build process page by page and stage by stage.

Currently, the feel I get is to build the 229 with what the Japanese saying goes; "The finesse of a man with a touch of a woman's intuition".  Meaning to get it done while taking each step one at a time.  You almost need to be a psychic and see into the future of what happens next in order to build this kit.  As always, I'm having a hell of a great time building this!  Thank you for the visit sir!

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, May 20, 2016 12:16 PM

Greg

Wow. And I thought Edward WWII fighters plane engine mounts were fussy.

Echoing Joe, go slow. Looking good, Toshi.

 

I know exactly what you're saying in regards to the Edward WWII engine mounts.  LOL!  Thanks for the visit!

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, May 20, 2016 4:02 PM

To my fellow forum members,

Mrs. Toshi and I went to one of my therapist.  According to the therapist, it would be in my best interest to have someone at home with me all the time.  I didn't want this to happen in this way, but if that's what they wish to happen than so be it.  What's really cool about going to the therapist is that Hobby Lobby is right next door!  LOL!  So by me knowing this, I really have nothing to complain about.

As always the case after my therapy session, where did I drag Mrs. Toshi to?  Hobby Lobby of course.  I needed some painting supplies, one color that I needed most was Vallejo 70.971 green gray.  This color is needed for the entire frame/spars for the HO 229.  While browsing the model kit aisle, I came upon a Fine Scale Modeler "How to Use an Airbrush" second edition by Robert Downie.  This would be a great read in between letting the glue set for the 229.  Not only that but the price was irresistible.  $21.95 - 40% but I can educate myself more in my airbrushing technique. So I figured I pick that up as well.

What you see below is the 229 frame work that will need to be painted.  I figured I better not press my luck as the next step is to install both Jumo 004 turbo jet engines as well as the cockpit.  So please view below the 229 pre-painted.  Thank you fellow forum members for your support!

Toshi 

 

 

 

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Posted by philo426 on Friday, May 20, 2016 4:33 PM

Keep on truckin Toshi!It s coming along fine.The only therapy I need is making models and playing one of my guitars!

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, May 20, 2016 5:19 PM

philo426

Keep on truckin Toshi!It s coming along fine.The only therapy I need is making models and playing one of my guitars!

 

Thank you, I will!  That's sounds like the best type of therapy!

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, May 20, 2016 5:21 PM

Here is the 229 fueselage frame drying for now.

Toshi

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Friday, May 20, 2016 8:43 PM

Excellent work so far Toshi!

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Posted by mustang1989 on Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:54 AM

Man that's intense! I need to get me one of these!!

                   

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, May 21, 2016 8:12 AM

TREYZX10R

Excellent work so far Toshi!

 

Thank you sir.  I feel and know that the fruits of my labor is due to all of you in helping and guiding me to become who I am and what kind of modeler I am today.  

My next phase is to add the Jumo 004 turbo jet engines, the tubular cockpit frame with the ejectable pilot seat.  If I may, this is one hell of an intense build.  Thank you for your devoted support in my builds.

Toshi

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Posted by Toshi on Saturday, May 21, 2016 8:17 AM

mustang1989

Man that's intense! I need to get me one of these!!

 

When I first purchased this kit, I thought it was another straight forward build.  I never would have thought that this kit was this demanding. As for your last statement, I highly recommend this kit 100%.

Toshi

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Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

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