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Helldiver! 2/08/09 Post Script

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, March 24, 2008 11:15 PM

 Jim Barton wrote:
Just stopping by to see if there was any new action on that beautiful Helldiver.

Sign - Ditto [#ditto], Chuck where are you? Confused [%-)]

Frank 

 

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Posted by chukw on Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:55 AM
 the Baron wrote:

Great SBS, sir, my hat is off to you!

It's really inspiring, because I have the old Monogram SB2C in the stash, and I want to do the same kind of bashing and superdetailing on it.  You're showing that with care, you can really do a nice job with a basic model.

Can't wait for the next installment!

Thanks, Baron- this is the ProModeller kit in the AccMin boxing- quite a nice kit, but I just can't seem to leave well enough alone!;D

 Leemitcheltree wrote:
And whoever it is that does the little cartoons is a very talented cartoonist - my hat's off to him, too!

 That me, Lee!  Ya gotta earn a living somehow- to pay for modeling! 

 Luftwoller wrote:
p.s Shave your fingers you freek. LOL

You should see my toes- all 14 of them!  :O

Jim, Daywalker and all you other fine fellows- I'm still here- just working overtime for a while at the job.  Don't cry for me- exciting stuff is happening- check this out:   http://www.variety.com/VR1117982413.html

I'm the lead concept guy for blur, and helping to put together 30  story art packages for the good folks at Paramount to choose from is a huge job.  Poor Helldiver isn't getting totally neglected, though- the 2nd wheel well is complete.  Work will resume in a week or two. In the emantime, it's back to drawing and painting semi-naked girls with huge guns!   :D  :D  :D

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:08 AM
Wow, that's fantastic news Chuck!  I am really looking forward to seeing your artwork for that one. Mischief [:-,]

Frank 

 

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Posted by chukw on Sunday, March 30, 2008 9:38 PM
I'm back! Work has been exciting- and quite busy as of late. Ah well- it could be worse- I mean, I am getting paid to draw semi-naked chicks with big guns! No, really!! Anyway, I have managed to get some modeling time in here and there- here's a recap of the past month:
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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:39 PM
Glad to see more progress is being made!  This thread gets better everytime, more informative and hilarious with every update! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Frank 

 

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Posted by TISAC on Sunday, March 30, 2008 11:53 PM

Everyone-

 

PLEASE don't forget to Strengthen your landing gear struts!

Use piano wire, and 'Super Strut' your valued creations! Yes- Piano wire, found at any good hobby shop. This will assist in your kit's ability to survive the ham handed little brother attacks when you aren't looking!

Forgive me if this isn't news for some, OK?:)

 

Thanks!

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Posted by Luftwoller on Monday, March 31, 2008 3:26 PM
 TISAC wrote:

Everyone-

 

PLEASE don't forget to Strengthen your landing gear struts!

Use piano wire, and 'Super Strut' your valued creations! Yes- Piano wire, found at any good hobby shop. This will assist in your kit's ability to survive the ham handed little brother attacks when you aren't looking!

Forgive me if this isn't news for some, OK?:)

 

Thanks!

UH????

...Guy

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Posted by Luftwoller on Monday, March 31, 2008 3:29 PM

Great work as usuall, and oh sooo funny. You deserve a long and illustrious carrer my friend. Be it in Modelling or cartoons. My only worry is that you may be modelling your Chuck character on my new look.

...Guy

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Posted by davew6003 on Monday, March 31, 2008 5:22 PM
Great work !! however maybe next time you could add a little detail....try to think out of the box.Whistling [:-^]
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Posted by wyoroy on Monday, March 31, 2008 9:45 PM
As always, great work.  Any plans to put it all together as a small book?

Roy (Capt. Wyoroy FAAGB/USNFAWGB)

John 3:16

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Posted by RadMax8 on Monday, March 31, 2008 11:04 PM
You guys got it all wrong! You gotta keep a goatee... the ladies can't resist it! Just ask my girlfriend! LOL
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Posted by roadkill_275 on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 4:22 PM

All I have to say is wow. This has got to be the best build I've seen on here. I've got the Pro-Modeler kit in my stash and after seeing this I'm afraid to start it (it was the third one down in the to build stack) There is no way I could do it now and do it justice. You have set the benchmark on this one. Your writing style is awesome and deserves to be published. Now, on the subject of the next one, give some thought to the Helldivers stablemate, the F6F-5 Hellcat. or even it's predecesor the SBD.

 

Edit: i just noticed that I spent 2 and a half hours reading this!

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Posted by raider83 on Friday, April 4, 2008 9:05 AM
this is going to be one spectacualar bird when you're done chukw.  You really should consider turning it into FSM.  amazind build. Bow [bow]Bow [bow]
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Posted by spookythecat on Friday, April 4, 2008 2:33 PM

Edit: i just noticed that I spent 2 and a half hours reading this!

Ahh...yes. But at least it wasn't a wasted 2 1/2 hours as this is easily the most impressive thread in history! Propeller [8-]

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Posted by chukw on Sunday, April 6, 2008 6:51 PM

Thanks, Daywalker and TISAC!
Don't worry, Luftwoller- I'll be sure to strengthen my struts- and rest assured, lil' chuk is modeled on me, because I'm WAY to funny-looking to post my real pic here.  maybe if were as dashing as you...  ;)
davew6003 - I'll try to stop slackin'...   :D
wyoroy :  Thanks- and mmmmmaybe...
agentg :  Someday I hope to improve to that demented santa phase- modeling can only help!
RadMax8 :  Tell us more about your girlfriend... ;)
roadkill_275 :  You bouild that kit- the world needs more Helldivers!  Thanks so much for the encouragement, pal- but two and a half hours?  I knew I was a motormouth but this is ridiculous!  :D
raider83  and  spookythecat:  Aw, come on!  Blush [:I]

I've been futzing around with a bunch of miscellaneous crapola on the build.   ;)  Sooner or later I'm going to have to close up the fuselage, but in the meantime there's so many little things to do !













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Posted by raider83 on Sunday, April 6, 2008 7:57 PM
Great stuff again.  I can't believe those markings were on the stabilizer.  Can barely tell they were there now!Wink [;)]
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Posted by ModelNerd on Monday, April 7, 2008 2:13 AM

"Peelin' taters"? Isn't that a Junior Brown song?

Great work on the Helldiver!

 

- Mark

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Posted by Luftwoller on Monday, April 7, 2008 6:12 AM

Chores? Chores?....Doesnt your good woman realise you have an audience??

P.S Im writing this while SWMBO isnt watching, or its the yard and a brush for me lol.

...Guy

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Posted by dirtball on Monday, April 7, 2008 9:52 AM
  As usual, your work is just outstanding! In a way, I kinda hope you dont finnish for quite a while! I enjoy your posts too much. Thanks again for sharing with us!!............Harv
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Posted by namrednef on Monday, April 7, 2008 6:20 PM

 

Chukw.....simply another breathtaking installment! The build, humor and presentation are without peer! Thank you very much!

I look forward to the SB2C posts more than I used to for the Sopranos!

Time to head downstairs and slide my Helldivers further back in the stash!Laugh [(-D]

 

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Posted by wyoroy on Monday, April 7, 2008 7:27 PM
Great work as always.

Roy (Capt. Wyoroy FAAGB/USNFAWGB)

John 3:16

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Posted by davew6003 on Monday, April 7, 2008 9:11 PM
You realize that you have set the bar so high now that you can never again post pics of an OOB build anywhere on the net.Whistling [:-^]
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Posted by cmixson on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 7:34 AM

  Great build...nice job on the photos of the work in progress.

  Will be looking forward to he next post. Keep up the great work.

 

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 3:30 PM
Hey Bondoman you ever notice the similarities between the SB2U HellDiver (Biplane) and the SB2C Helldiver (Monowing)? That they took an aircraft of 1930's origin and come out again in the late war era with an aircraft of a similar design but uprated to 1940's standards?

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Posted by namrednef on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 4:46 PM

 

I have noticed that there are similarities between the BF2C Helldiver and the SB2C Helldiver. The letter 'c' in each designation stands for "Curtiss"

The SB2U is the Vindicator mono bomber....produced by Chance-Vought of Corsair fame. The letter 'U' designates that company. 'D' for Douglas....'F' for Grumman.....etc.

There are a couple seeming anomilies in A/C designations but they can be figured out. 

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Posted by roadkill_275 on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 5:54 PM

 Mikeym_us wrote:
Hey Bondoman you ever notice the similarities between the SB2U HellDiver (Biplane) and the SB2C Helldiver (Monowing)? That they took an aircraft of 1930's origin and come out again in the late war era with an aircraft of a similar design but uprated to 1940's standards?

 

This happened quite frequently. You can look at any design and find similiarities. For instance F3F to the F4F (little side note here, the F4F started life as a biplane) or the BT-1 to the SBD. Aircraft designers are, by nature, a lazy bunch and they want to keep what works and get rid of what doesn't. By the way, your post should read SBC Helldiver. The similiarites you see are superficial and lies mostly in the tail.with some minor simiarity in the shape of the cowling. The SB2C was quite a bit larger than the SB2C and carried its bomb under the fuselage whereas the SB2C carried its bomb internally. The SB2C definately earned its nickname "the Big A+++d Beast"

Namrednef, The BF2C was a Scout Fighter before the SBC series. The US Navy designation system prior to 1962 had a lot of quirks in it and probably made sense to somebody in Naval HQ. It can sure be a bugger to figure out sometimes though. 

Kevin M. Bodkins "Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup" American By Birth, Southern By the Grace of God! www.milavia.com Christian Modelers For McCain
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Posted by Jim Barton on Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:31 PM
 Luftwoller wrote:

Chores? Chores?....Doesnt your good woman realise you have an audience??

P.S Im writing this while SWMBO isnt watching, or its the yard and a brush for me lol.

...Guy

Chores? Like mowing the lawn or taking out the trash?

That reminds me...I'd better empty the kitchen wastebasket!Smile [:)]

Well done, as usual. Looking forward to more. I'm trying to get a friend in Hawaii to register so he can see this Helldiver.

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:07 PM

 Mikeym_us wrote:
Hey Bondoman you ever notice the similarities between the SB2U HellDiver (Biplane) and the SB2C Helldiver (Monowing)? That they took an aircraft of 1930's origin and come out again in the late war era with an aircraft of a similar design but uprated to 1940's standards?
I hadn't till you mentioned it (SBC vs SB2C) because I know less than squat about naval aircraft, but it's true that the biplane to monoplane transition seemed to follow advances in engine power, where the wing area loss was made up in other ways. I'd say aeronautical engineers then were so aware of mathematics that a room full of people making mechanical calculations to design a wing cross section meant incremental change.

The one that I first noticed was the Hurricane; funny looking with all due respect to the greatness that was Sydney Camm.

But take a look at the Hart:

 

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Posted by Boomerang on Friday, April 11, 2008 6:25 AM

 raider83 wrote:
this is going to be one spectacualar bird when you're done chukw.  You really should consider turning it into FSM.  amazind build. Bow [bow]Bow [bow]

  Raider83 is right. You should consider an article, may have to be in ten parts...Laugh [(-D]Whistling [:-^].

  I remember when i first started collecting FSM Magazine, there was a chap by the name of Bob Steinbrun, who used to build fantastic models. I was absolutely fixated by his work. I believe the first magazine i bought featured his Flying Tigers P-40. An amazing modeler is he. I do well believe you are on par with him, certainly up there with the best. I have been checking out previous pages of this thread. Seriously mate, your work is mind blowing. I can't say i have seen this level of detail in an aircraft model other than Bob Steinbruns. I am really lost for words!!!

  Does anybody remember Bob Steinbrun's articles? What ever happened to him?

  Boomer...

   

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