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  • Member since
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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:26 PM

To a New Yorker like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Tigers:

You were saying something about negative waves Smile

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:20 PM

Three Tigers!?!

I counted 'em up and I got:

16 Tiger Is

8 Tiger IIs

12 Panthers

in the GB so far.

That's enough negative waves that I think even as crazy as Oddball is he'd withdraw Indifferent

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Hasenpfeffer on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 8:29 PM

Hi tigerman, I'd like to join the party if I may.

I'd like to build this:

Not sure if I'll add any AM goodies yet.

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:20 AM

Hasenpfeffer

Hi tigerman, I'd like to join the party if I may.

I'd like to build this:

Not sure if I'll add any AM goodies yet.

Glad to have you aboard. The Dark Knight rises LOL. 

Other then decals, anything else that makes it better then a standard Dragon kit?

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 Eric 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:30 AM

Gamera

Three Tigers!?!

I counted 'em up and I got:

16 Tiger Is

8 Tiger IIs

12 Panthers

in the GB so far.

That's enough negative waves that I think even as crazy as Oddball is he'd withdraw Indifferent

A few more and we could form our own Abteilung.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, August 23, 2012 7:34 PM

Did this Tiger II about twenty years ago and excuse the missing headlight and rather krappy look of the vehicle. But I have a silly question here- added the gouge marks to the front armour plate and wondering how it looks- overdone???

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by detailfreak on Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:16 PM

my ears are still ringing from those hits.LOL

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Posted by Hasenpfeffer on Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:53 PM

tigerman - Not sure as I don't have first hand knowledge of the standard kit. I would assume that many of the parts are the same as many of the Panther kits. It looks as though this has twice as many parts as will be used... There is a sheet of PE, aluminum barrel, some metal side skirts, some clear vision port parts and 1-piece tracks. Plastic quality and detail of the parts is similar to current Smart Kits I have (non Panther). So appears to be a standard kit with some goodies thrown in? I'll post a pic of the sprues, etc. when I get started.

Looking forward to the GB as it will be my 1st.  Surprise

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Friday, August 24, 2012 1:21 AM

Hasenpfeffer

tigerman - Not sure as I don't have first hand knowledge of the standard kit. I would assume that many of the parts are the same as many of the Panther kits. It looks as though this has twice as many parts as will be used... There is a sheet of PE, aluminum barrel, some metal side skirts, some clear vision port parts and 1-piece tracks. Plastic quality and detail of the parts is similar to current Smart Kits I have (non Panther). So appears to be a standard kit with some goodies thrown in? I'll post a pic of the sprues, etc. when I get started.

Looking forward to the GB as it will be my 1st.  Surprise

Seems similar to the Panther A Premium (which I still can't score on ebay), except for the DS tracks. the Premium had the magic tracks.

Found this review:

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=5978 

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 Eric 

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, August 24, 2012 1:30 AM

Gamera

Did this Tiger II about twenty years ago and excuse the missing headlight and rather krappy look of the vehicle. But I have a silly question here- added the gouge marks to the front armour plate and wondering how it looks- overdone???

That's a nice effort Cliff. I do think the gouge is too straight in and deep. Remember, the armor was about 6-8 inches thick. It should make a scooped gouge, kind of like an ice cream scooper in a carton of ice cream.

From everything I've read, there is no know documented picture of a King Tiger's frontal armor being penetrated!

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 Eric 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 24, 2012 9:06 AM

Greg: You should see the T34 that made the gouges- I'm not sure what Russian for 'splattered across the landscape is...'

Eric: Thanks, tried this years ago when I first started building tanks after reading Shep Paine's book on building AFVs. Just took Dad's electric drill and BAM!!!

Went back and reread Paine's book and yeah the edges should be scooped up more as you said like ice cream or as I was thinking the raised edges on a moon crater. I have a Dremel motor-tool now with a cutting head that I think would work better than a simple drill bit.

I was thinking the same thing- neat way of showing how impenetrable the front armour on one of these monsters was! I was kicking around the idea of doing it to the Dragon kit, if I don't like it I can always cover it over when I add the zimmerit.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Friday, August 24, 2012 1:54 PM

Eric, can you add me to the list with the subject being a Tunisian Tiger I.  Haven't decided which scale, but am leaning towards 1/35 so I can add a figure or two.

The gouges on the front of that King Tiger do look deep.  The front hull plate is 150mm thick.  If calculations are correct, scaling that down in 1/35 is only 4.28mm and then adding a 50 degree slope.    I'm not all that techi on this sort of thing, but when a shell impacts the armour, is there more compression happening then actual bulging out of the metal plate on the other side (maybe more so on thicker armor?)?

Some interesting shots of shell damage:

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 24, 2012 2:16 PM

Hey Jack, thanks those photos are great!!! 

As I said I was a kid at the time and got a little ahem... enthusiastic with the drill Embarrassed

I'll try to go a little shallower this time Wink

Thanks! Cliff 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Saturday, August 25, 2012 1:52 AM

Jack, thanks for the photos and glad to have the Tiger aboard. Is the kit Tamiya as I think it is?

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 Eric 

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Posted by jgeratic on Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:08 PM

Hi Eric, yes the 1/48 kit I have is Tamiya.  The other is Cyber-Hobby 's 1/35 Tunisian Tiger 3 in1.  It was a limited run and back then I think I paid about  $70 - can't remember if that included  shipping.  Just checked ebay and there is one listed for $500  Surprise

regards,

Jack

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, August 26, 2012 11:45 AM

Don't build it! LOL $500? Holy smokes that would buy a ton of kits.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, August 26, 2012 11:54 AM

$500, i think even i would be tempted to sell, maybe. That got me curious and i woundered how much any of my 3 CH kits would go for. The only one i found was the Wittmann Tiger which the seller want £160 for but no one seems interested.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by bobbaily on Sunday, August 26, 2012 1:18 PM

Eric-think I've made a build decision-Dragon Panther G Late Smart Kit, 1/35.  Still in the wrapper...Looking forward to this GB.

Bob

 

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, August 27, 2012 1:11 AM

Great choice Bob. I heard its a honey of a kit.

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 Eric 

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:20 AM

Uh, just 5 day so to go boys. This GB snuck up me! Like i said, I doubt I will get anything done this week, but by next Sunday, I should be gluing axles to the hull.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:00 AM

I expect to ab able to start towards the end of Sept. Really looking forward to this GB.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Wisconsin Rapids, WI
Posted by moose421 on Tuesday, August 28, 2012 7:36 PM

I won't be starting till late September or October.  I have the next 4 weekends planned out.  But, I just ordered in an Iwata Smart Jet compressor.  I needed to have a quiter compressor.  Don't want  to wake the kids and make my wife PO'd.

Looking forward to getting back into building and trying out my new photo tent.

Kim

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  • From: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Posted by StreetFightingMan on Tuesday, August 28, 2012 8:01 PM

Wow, this thing is almost starting! I'm kind of frustrated with my current build, so I'll have something else to work on to help even things out (or make me a lot more frustrated). So excited!

-Mike

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Posted by darson on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:16 AM

I'm really looking forwards to this one as well guys and I now have everything I need to get going on the weekend.

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 1:44 AM

Can I start early? Big Smile

haha, wish I could, but I couldn't even if I wanted to. I might be able to squeeze 1/2 -1hr per night during the easier stuff.

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 Eric 

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:02 AM

Small  update. I went through the sprues and noticed it does come with late dampers for the latter style mufflers. I will be doing that version.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Shellback on Friday, August 31, 2012 8:28 AM

Less ' n 24 hrs Eric !!!!

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, August 31, 2012 10:37 AM

I know. It snuck up pretty fast. I almost have all my sprues washed and ready to go. Just wish i could start this weekend. maybe later on Sunday.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 31, 2012 11:20 AM

Almost time to let the cat outta the bag!!!!!

Sorry, couldn't help myself... Surprise

Well, my mom thinks I'm funny.

Sometimes... Embarrassed

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, August 31, 2012 1:57 PM

I might be able to start getting a few bits together this weekend as well. My current build is almost done, but i have just ordered a soldering iron and have to wait for that before i can finish the dio.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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