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2015 Messerschmitt Bf 109 Group Build

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, January 1, 2015 3:42 PM

Man that would be cool to open that panel. I opened one up on a build I did about 9 years ago and scratch built some radios and ran elevator/ rudder control cables so you could see them through the opening.

While not the best build in the world, it did add to the detail of the finished model. Just don't forget the backing plate with the twist lock holes for the panel.

                   

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Posted by flyerduke on Thursday, January 1, 2015 3:51 PM

HmmSmile Now ya got me thinking.

mustang1989

Man that would be cool to open that panel. I opened one up on a build I did about 9 years ago and scratch built some radios and ran elevator/ rudder control cables so you could see them through the opening.

While not the best build in the world, it did add to the detail of the finished model. Just don't forget the backing plate with the twist lock holes for the panel.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, January 1, 2015 4:30 PM

Flyerduke,

It looks a little dark for RLM 02, but I'm not an expert like most of the guys on this build.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, January 1, 2015 4:37 PM

Craig, having seen Steve's post, he is right. 02 is a light grey colour. If you have Tamiya paints, XF-22 is not a bad match.

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Posted by flyerduke on Thursday, January 1, 2015 4:40 PM

It could be my poor photo, but the Testors MM RLM 02 (2071) that I have does look a shade lighter.  Also, the Testor paint doesn't have as much of that OD tint to it.  I'd hate to repaint.  I really like the way the Vallejo goes on.

modelcrazy

Flyerduke,

It looks a little dark for RLM 02, but I'm not an expert like most of the guys on this build.

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Posted by Allen109 on Thursday, January 1, 2015 5:49 PM

mustang1989, SchattenSpartan : I was looking at the kit/builder roster, noticed only one of my entries is listed.

 I plan on submitting two for the group build- 1/32 Hasegawa Bf-109G-6 and the 1/72 Hasegawa Bf-109G-6.

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Posted by flyerduke on Thursday, January 1, 2015 5:52 PM

OK guys.  I re-shot the cockpit parts with Testors MM RLM 02 enamel.  It's definitely a touch lighter.  It sprayed well, but I really hate the smell of enamels.  I used the flash on the bottom photo.

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Posted by jgeratic on Thursday, January 1, 2015 6:31 PM

RLM 02 is described as a grey with some green in it.  This same colour was also used on the exterior as the lighter shade for the two tone camouflage of 1940, so going straight grey won't be correct either.  

I found this colour swatch, which I think is fairly accurate:

I haven't come across any negative reviews for Vallejo's shade, though one modeller did make the comment that:

t's the wierdest colour; looks grey when viewed next to green, green next to gray and brown in the bottle.

I've also read  there was more than one company producing paints for the Luftwaffe, so there would be some variance.   It's possible the bottle of Vallejo you have is a victim of the above occurrence, in that the colour is a bit off?   You can also try taking the eyedropper off the top so you an get a stir stick in there just in case shaking wasn't enough.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, January 1, 2015 7:17 PM

Allen109

mustang1989, SchattenSpartan : I was looking at the kit/builder roster, noticed only one of my entries is listed.

 I plan on submitting two for the group build- 1/32 Hasegawa Bf-109G-6 and the 1/72 Hasegawa Bf-109G-6.

We'll get you handled Allen. You're in good hands dude! Big Smile

                   

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Posted by flyerduke on Thursday, January 1, 2015 7:32 PM

Thanks Jack.  The MM 02 I used to re-spray looks a lot like the swatch you posted.  Now the 66 that I used from Vallejo is a good bit darker than the swatch.  I don't know, maybe I'm just splitting hairs here.  Both paints went on nice.  I just like using acrylics.

Craig

jgeratic

RLM 02 is described as a grey with some green in it.  This same colour was also used on the exterior as the lighter shade for the two tone camouflage of 1940, so going straight grey won't be correct either.  

I found this colour swatch, which I think is fairly accurate:

I haven't come across any negative reviews for Vallejo's shade, though one modeller did make the comment that:

t's the wierdest colour; looks grey when viewed next to green, green next to gray and brown in the bottle.

I've also read  there was more than one company producing paints for the Luftwaffe, so there would be some variance.   It's possible the bottle of Vallejo you have is a victim of the above occurrence, in that the colour is a bit off?   You can also try taking the eyedropper off the top so you an get a stir stick in there just in case shaking wasn't enough.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by jgeratic on Thursday, January 1, 2015 7:42 PM

Craig, no problem.  Some other things to consider is how dense you sprayed them on, and what if any, primer colour was underneath.   Acrylics do dry fast to the touch, but they might still be curing till the following day, and end up looking lighter?

regards,

Jack

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, January 1, 2015 7:52 PM

jgeratic
what primer colour was underneath.

flyerduke: This has EVERYTHING to do with how the color shade turns out. I usually go with a darker color primer on my lighter final coats. I can always lighten it up with additional passes until I feel it's going to be the shade I want.

                   

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Posted by flyerduke on Thursday, January 1, 2015 7:58 PM

Thanks Joe.  As you can tell, I'm still learning.

mustang1989

jgeratic
what primer colour was underneath.

flyerduke: This has EVERYTHING to do with how the color shade turns out. I usually go with a darker color primer on my lighter final coats. I can always lighten it up with additional passes until I feel it's going to be the shade I want.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, January 1, 2015 8:18 PM

No problem dude! That's what we're all here for aint it? You're doing great here bud!

                   

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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, January 1, 2015 9:24 PM

Bit of a long winded post tonight.

Some progress was made.

I opened up the access panel for the fuselage. I cut out a new door from soda can aluminum and then used a drill and sharp blade to cut out the hole. Clean up was quick and then I fabricated a backing plate.











Today some detailing for the fuel ports occurred. Spouts were fabricated and made so that I could attach lines later. They may not be 100% accurate but they do work for what I want.






It was a good day I think.

All comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.

Happy New Year.



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Posted by panzerpilot on Thursday, January 1, 2015 9:41 PM

Nice start-ups here!

I am diverting to my alternate in order to get going this weekend, pending approval from Stang and SS. My second planned build will now be my first, due to an AM snafu for the G-10 (which I now plan for a later date). I am going with the 1/32 Dragon Wing Tech E-4. A BoB bird. I've heard this kit is well done and look forward to it. The scheme will be a battle weary "Achtung Anfanger", 'black 6' yellow nose...complete with a bomb. This, from JG51.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Thursday, January 1, 2015 9:44 PM

Bring it Tom! Lookin' forward to it!

                   

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Friday, January 2, 2015 2:07 AM

Hi Mustang -- at last, here's my build schedule for this GB:

Progressing in no particular order:

Hasegawa 1:48 Bf 109 G-2 (Hans Trautloft)

Hasegawa 1:32 Bf 109 G-6 (Eric Hartmann)

Airfix 1:72 Bf 109 E-4 (Franz von Werra)

Hobbycraft Bf 109 D (AM early war scheme)

I look forward to making a start, and will hopefully work through these four during the year.

Cheers, M/TB379

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, January 2, 2015 4:07 AM

What a line up THAT  is!!!! Clemens will get you in the intro soon and welcome to the GB Thunderbolt!!!

                   

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Friday, January 2, 2015 5:43 AM

Thanks, mate! Heck, this is the cut-down version, at one point I was considering eight 109s! But I need to control my overall number of builds for the year, and have three from last year to finish even after the two that will be done this weekend that are part of last year's tally... I have them stacked up ready to go, I'll get a shot of the 2015 roster (not counting three or four that are not here yet...)

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, January 2, 2015 6:11 AM

I'll be lucky to finish one this year! You're a better man than me! lol

                   

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Posted by Zvezda1980 on Friday, January 2, 2015 8:44 AM

Hello and happy new year to everyone.

Please count me in  as well for this. I cannot miss being a member of this great Jagdgeschwader Propeller

I will begin with something quick and easy, ITALERI's Bf-109 F-4 in 1/72.

Hope to have time and appetite for more Emils, Friendrieches and Gustavs later on.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, January 2, 2015 8:53 AM

I'll be looking forward to this Zvezda! Clemens will get you in on the intro post! Welcome aboard pal!

                   

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Posted by Bish on Friday, January 2, 2015 12:13 PM

Nice selection Mike, that's quite a handful for one GB. Look forward to the 32nd G-6. I have that kit and was considering it, but wanted to go for an easier scheme.

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Posted by Greg on Friday, January 2, 2015 12:21 PM

Good to see this GB underway. Good starts, gents.

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Posted by Allen109 on Friday, January 2, 2015 2:24 PM

Thanks, mustang1989.

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Posted by ruddratt on Friday, January 2, 2015 5:20 PM

Nice to see all the WIP's so early into the GB.  Had a feeling this one would start off like gangbusters.

Been able to make some headway on the 'pit.  Going with the kit offering and using the Aires set as a guide, this is where it stands thus far.  The most time consuming step was removing all the molded in seatbelt detail.  Was able to snag the resin rudder pedal supports from the Aires kit.  I'll most likely be using the Aires breech cover as well.  Both IP's look nice, so I'll probably build 'em both and then decide which one to go with.

 

Mike

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Posted by Bish on Friday, January 2, 2015 5:33 PM

Nice start Mike, some nice detail going in there.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Friday, January 2, 2015 5:39 PM

Nice progress so far Mike! Man I love super detailed pits. Looks like this one's gonna be one for the books!

                   

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Posted by ruddratt on Friday, January 2, 2015 6:22 PM

Thanks guys!  Gotta admit it feels a little weird not painting wood grain or installing rigging & turnbuckles though,  but I'm having a blast so far!  Yes

Joe, that's what I love about 1/32, especially for WWII stuff.  Let's one really go hog wild on the details.  As an example, here's a comparison between the 109 and a 1/32 WWI Roland......

 

Mike

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