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Regia Aeronautica GB II (06/15/09 to 06/15/10)

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Monday, February 2, 2009 11:20 PM

Steve, that's a mighty fine looking build! Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]  I use pastels too but I just brush the dust on dry and then seal with a clear coat. 

Congradulations to your Steelers and on the 1,000 mark Party [party]Propeller [8-]Make a Toast [#toast]  I was able to watch the second half of the game and I thought they were toast but they pulled it off.

Thanks Aaron and Steve for the comments on Guido.  I figured if I was going to use a enny it should be a period piece.  Unfortunately I don't have any Italian Lire from that period.

Dave

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Posted by razordws on Monday, February 2, 2009 11:30 PM
 Summit wrote:

Dave - I just knew you were going to come in here with a figure that looks like he should walk and talk. Boohoo [BH] Laugh [(-D] The penny is super cool also - do you collect "wheatheads"  I have many zinc coated 1943 if you need one. 

Sean, I don't usually go to such detail on figures but you and your Alex MADE me do it.  It's all YOUR fault. Wink [;)] 

I don't actively collect coins but have kept many over the years that have showed up in my change.  My grandmother kept stashes of money (coins mostly) all over her house and when she passed away they divided up all the coins amoung the grandkids.  I was quite young at the time and most of the coins were of a vintage nature so that got me going.

Dave

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 7:45 AM

Guido- I love it Dave! (Was that close enough Guy?)  Didn't notice the "1944" at first, good idea though.  Hope the little fella doesn't drive you mad waiting for his plane to be built. Thumbs Up [tup]

Steve- That really is a beautiful example of a Folgore, absolutely breathtaking! Bow [bow] And, congrats on 1000 posts! Party [party]

Does anyone know if the Italian Co-belligerant Air Force was still considered the Regia Aeronautica?  Or, after the armistice did the RA disappear and the otherbegin?  I really don't knowmuch about the subject. Blush [:I]

On a side note, I got an email yesterday from PCM about my Regia 109G-6 decals.  They said:

"Dear Mr. Daniels,

 Your order #6626 for SKY 48011 is on backorder.    I will e-mail you if
it comes in.  Thanks and

Best Regards"

Excuse me, but IF it comes in?  Confused [%-)]

Frank 

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 9:03 AM

 Well Frank looking at the rules on page one which are very strict in their nature and knowing the sheer brutality of the GB leader I would think the Italian WWII part has you covered in any build of the Three Italian Air forces that were in the war.

The Co-Belligerant AF was up and running right after the Armistice as was the ANR on the side of the Germans. The Facist planes actually were dressed in German markings briefly (about a month or so) Until the ANR was organized and running after Hitler recued Mussolini.

After the war everything of course became the RA again so it is really just a choice in what you want to represent.

Now A 109 in Co-Belligerant colors? Never saw that it would be an interesting representation to see a 109G on the Allied side.

I'm certain Guy would give his blessing and give it a ceremonious ritual. Thumbs Up [tup]

Wow Steve 1000 post? Been a member since 2003? You need to talk to Frank about Comsec! That is amazing!

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  • From: Bournemouth UK
Posted by Luftwoller on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 11:32 AM

Dave, isnt Guido, italian for Guy? I dont know, but that figure is great. I may have to send a couple your way for you to work your magic on them.

Steve, That is gorgeous. Those decals look the buisness. Really. They look sprayed on and you have totally convinced me that my next build is my Hasa 205. With quality like this from you, you have to build another. Get down your LHS young man. This GB needs you.

Frank, the rules for this GB are very strict fella...err... well strictish..err infact as long as either the plane or the markings or the pilot, come to think of it, are Italian, then its in! Told you we were strict here. Its all Daves fault remember. The rules have been ammended as my 205 will be in German markings LOL.

...Guy

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Posted by soulcrusher on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 11:32 AM

Thank you everyone fr the Birthday whishes. The big 4 3 for me.No hobby shop gift certificate this time but I think I have enough kits stashed to keep me busy for a long time.

Steve that is once awesome Macchi. She looks perfect.

Frank that really stinks about the decals. Maybe there are other alternatives like Aaron suggested. Either way you can always blame it on Dave.

Guy I like the tiny Mc 200 and thats some small airbrushing there. Whats with the funny coin in the  pic?

Mabye tonight I can finish up on the Re 2000 and start thinking about a second build!

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  • From: Bournemouth UK
Posted by Luftwoller on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 11:38 AM

I know im the most incompetant Host of a GB but could everyone check the front page and let me know of any ammendments (Finished builds, changed builds etc etc LOL)

...Guy

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 12:26 PM
 Luftwoller wrote:

I know im the most incompetant Host of a GB but could everyone check the front page and let me know of any ammendments (Finished builds, changed builds etc etc LOL)

...Guy

 I kinda figured you were just writing everyone down as doing a 202 Folglore!  Cut and paste! keep it simple. I got did the RE 2005 and the Smer MC 200 Saetta and you said I did a Folglore?  Thought that was a rule? It's Dave's fault me thinks! Good thing Frank loves him! Kisses [:X]

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  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 12:36 PM
I am looking for a standing figure like a mechanic or some such. This is a funny model because it's sort of a 66% PBY in size and it really needs a scale figure, but it's going to be on its beaching trolley and it'd look dumb to have the pilots in their seats. Any trades?
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Posted by Summit on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 12:55 PM
Bondo - can you be more specific as in aprox. how many mm's (not the candy type) tall ? I have a bunch of figures held hostage in a coffee cup.
Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Luftwoller on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 1:27 PM

WHAT!!! I turn my back for a second  and theres Hostage taking?? Good work fellows, Keep it up.

Ive modified the front pge a touch but lost the will to b pge 32 ish. Please PM me to let me know if its right or wrong. Or better still Aaron. You do it....errr...Dave made me say that.

...Guy

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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 1:34 PM

Bondo, I've got quite a few mechanic types from a couple of different sets at home.  I'll take some pics later tonight so that you can see if there is something that works.  If I remember correctly they are the vinyl type of plastic figures though.

Edit:  If you go to www.plasticsoldierreview.com, click on the manufacturer's link on the left and then click on airfix you'll find pictures and reviews of the two sets that I have.  Set 1747 - RAF personnel and 1755 - Luftwaffe Personnel.  Let me know if anything looks useable.

Dave

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Posted by sidure on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 1:44 PM

Thanks for all the replies fellas. It was a fun and enjoyable kit to build and the smoke ring decals were just great to work with. Very fragile once they are on so take caution when handeling the model for those of you that may use them in the future. Thanks Guy for the GB even if you dont know whats going on in it. You know who made me say that, its his fault.

Bondo, I have a box of Airfix WWII Luftwaffe ground personell in 1/72. I have used a lot of them but have a few left, mechanics etc. Let me know if you want some.

Steve

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:13 PM

 Ok I updated my page one naval lint post and warped it into a completed listing as it was right under Guy's strict rules and stuff!  Guy feel free to copy it and use it if you like and I will make mine vanish or we can leave it as is! Your choice!  Thanks a lot for the extra work Dave! I should get a free homework pass for a year now! Laugh [(-D]Pirate [oX)]

 Ditto on giving a yell should I have missed anyone or need a correction made!

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:10 PM

Thx to Steves fantastic 202, ive broken sprue on my 205. Not a lot so far, you know how it is. Open the box, sniff plastic for an hour or so. Go through my reference book for the squilienth time. LOL

I intend to build the kit OOB. With a bit of scratchbuilding here and there. It is going to have a closed cockpit so detail in there doesnt have to go to my usuall OCD standards......but i might love it up a little LOL. Anyhoo heres the start, The seat in the picture was way over scale so i thinned the crap out of it. Ive done one half in this pic,

 

and both in this one, as well as giving it a coat of Alclad Dull alluminium along with the stick and the rudder pedals. I also hit the rest of the interior with Anticorozione Verde,

More soon kiddywinks,

...Guy

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 4:15 PM
looking good, Guy. What's your choice, all, for the interior green? Urbans chart sez 50/50 Humbrol 38 and 74, but there's gotta be a simpler way. How about RAF interior green?
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Posted by Summit on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:00 PM

 bondoman wrote:
How about RAF interior green?

Bondo -  that is what I used and it matched real close to the FS color chart by my eyes.

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by soulcrusher on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:10 PM

Guy I build that kit a couple of years ago and it is one of the best fitting kits I have done ever. It was also my first try at freehanding smoke ring camo. Needless to say I discovered I was not very good at it and they came out rather on the thick side but the kit is a sweetheart. I whish I have the Mike Grant decals back then because the kit is really that nice. BTW Guy the front page is right by me as I have not finished anything yet.

bondomam that is the exact color I have used on every RA plane I have build. In my eyes the RAF interior green is a spot on match for the interior green on almost all of the RA planes. If its wrong you can always just blame DaveShock [:O]! Sorry Dave it just seems to be all the fashion these days to blame you.Sign - Oops [#oops]

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:22 PM
Hey I can't find my brake fluid? Do you think power steering fluid will work to soak some old paint off?
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Posted by Summit on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:26 PM

 sfcmac wrote:
Hey I can't find my brake fluid? Do you think power steering fluid will work to soak some old paint off?

Yuck, Dead [xx(]  Aaron I have no clue. Check this out

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Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:52 PM

Bondo, RAF interior green is what I use too.  I think I added just a little light grey on the Fiat BR 20 to lighten it up a little but it looks close to me.

Guy, looks like you are off to the races again.  Wingus and Dingus must havefully recovered from the jam incident.  Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Dave

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 6:03 PM

Now doesn't that figure. I use simple green for rug scrubbers and the lot! We used it in the Army all the time for everything! Even steam cleaned the tank engines with it.  Never thought of it as a paint stripper though.

 Well power steering fluid is thicker than brake fluid LOL. I wish I had seen this 15 minutes earlier! Oh well next time!  Thanks Sean!

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Posted by soulcrusher on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 6:30 PM

Aaron have never heard of power steering fluid as a stripper. Most are petrolium based. Brake fluid are silicone based. Big no no to mix them up in an automobile. I use dot 3 brakefluid to strip off any painting screw ups on my plastic models and it has worked great for me. I might try the Simple Green though because I like the way it smells MMMMMM nice and piney! Easy Off oven cleaner is another option but I would have to believe the smell would be pretty bad if you are not in a well ventilated area so I'm sticking with my brake fluid.

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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 6:40 PM
There is a "Fume Free Easy Off" oven cleaner product which I've used in the past to strip paint and it works great and no smell.  I simply coat the model in the stuff and put it in a zip lock bag overnight and rinse it in the morning.  It may require a couple of shots to get it all off if it was a heavy brush coating (as most of my old models are).

Dave

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 8:59 PM

Man, a guy goes to work for a day and there's two pages to read! 

Does anyone by chance know where to find a 1/48 decal of this squadron badge?

 

Frank 

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 9:22 PM
 Daywalker wrote:

Man, a guy goes to work for a day and there's two pages to read! 

Does anyone by chance know where to find a 1/48 decal of this squadron badge?

 

Frank , I saved a pic of every decal set I can find or that has been posted here. I see nothing yet but will keep searching.  If worse comes to worse we can go the make it ourself route. I am getting better at it now. Something that small surely we could get to work!

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Posted by soulcrusher on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 9:27 PM

Have 'nt seen that one before Frank. What squadron is it from?

Well I am pretty sure I must be going crazy because I am went throught my stash looking for a second subject for the GB and I pulled out my Classic Airframes Iman Ro 37. The detail included in this kit is pretty nice right down to the photo etch wire wheel hubs.  Now I know being a short run kit it is going to be a project and with all of the detail it will probally put me in my grave but I feel the need to build this cool overlooked airplane. So am I crazy? here are a couple of pics. What do you think?

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 10:44 PM

Aaron-

Thanks!  It is on that decal sheet I tried to order, hope it comes to fruition.  Otherwise, I may take you up on that one!  If I can find that badge as a decal, then I have my backup plan for the G-6 (yep, G-6! Big Smile [:D]).  FOund a photo of one with that badge and a black "4".  I can mask and paint the four.  Just have to find that decal. Disapprove [V]

SC- I love that plane!  And look, you have already done your homework assignment by finding a period photo of it.  Are you going to build it?  As for that emblem, the page I found it on states this:

3° Gruppo, Regia Aeronautica
2a Squadriglia, II° Gruppo, ANR

This popular emblem was another one that continued on after the split of Italian forces in 1943. Originally it was seen on Regia Aeronautica Bf109s. In the ANR the badge continued being seen on Bf109s and also found its way onto Fiat G.55s.

 

 

Frank 

 

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Posted by sidure on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 11:31 PM

Guy, great start on the 205. I am having a deja-vou seeing your pics. So far the 202 and 205 kits are the same. What is the major differences between the two. I would really like to do a 205 soon. Looks good Guy

Steve

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Posted by Summit on Tuesday, February 3, 2009 11:40 PM
 sidure wrote:

Guy, great start on the 205. I am having a deja-vou seeing your pics. So far the 202 and 205 kits are the same. What is the major differences between the two. I would really like to do a 205 soon. Looks good Guy

Steve

Steve -  I wondered the same thing all I have noticed is - twin cylindrical oil coolers, a retracting tail wheel and a blunter spinner.

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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