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  • Member since
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  • From: League City, Texas
Posted by sfcmac on Friday, January 30, 2009 2:57 AM

 Wonderful Progress Frank! That pit looks sharp!  I did all that work on the RE 2005 and the opening is so narrow and the canopy such a figity fit you can't see nearly as much as I thought.Grumpy [|(] Probably won't stop me from using what I have though. Guy would whip me if I had the details and not use em!

 Now on the MC 200 where it is almost all scratched outta stuff laying around the bench I think I've made a big diff so it kinda evens out.

Dave looking sweet!  I always have to do a double take and check the wings to tell the diff between a Fiat G 55 and the RE 2005. They look real close to me except for the wing. You fellows with the 1/72 stuff sure have my respect. Bow [bow]

Got mine all together and the dull coat is drying.  Have to see how much weathering is needed as Sean says it is a Mr. Clean build right now. I think I can dirty it up a bit without going too overboard.

See ya tomorrow!

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Friday, January 30, 2009 1:38 AM

Frank, good to see some progress even if it isn't on the propeller Wink [;)] Looking Good! Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

I tried doing a 1/700 Essex carrier once with a full PE set.  Pretty near drove me mad.  I don't mind a few bits like IP's and seat belts etc. but I don't think I'll ever try another project like the Essex.  Dead [xx(]

I've been plugging away on the G55S and I just have to finish painting Guido and mask and attach the canopy and I'm ready to paint.

Dave

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Posted by bondoman on Friday, January 30, 2009 12:09 AM

I've got a fair amount of PE experience building 1/350 ships. There's an article about it in the new FSM, but frankly, it's not very good.

First and foremost, invest in a brake. Mine is from Mission Models, other people like Etchmate. Not only is it a good straight edge, but it's a third hand, and if part of the part is in it, the carpet monster goes hungry. And he REALLY likes PE. And don't use the plastic spatulas that come with it, use a single edge razor blade.

Next, paint on the fret. I've never seen the need to pickle or prime ahead, as some do, but a shot with a rattle can first is the way to go. These things drink paint on account of the open spaces.

PE doesn't replace round objects too well, and the fret designers tend to go overboard, so I never use up the whole fret. Stuff like flaps, panels and sights work, but gun barrels, antennas, struts etc. don't do it for me. Oh, and Frank you may need to invest in an optivisor.

Handle with care, stick it on LAST.

 

 

 

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Posted by sidure on Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:59 PM

Frank, very nice work on the pit. The IP is especially nice and well done. Im with you on the PE stuff. Problem is I have a kit comming up with a ton of PE in it and its scaring me to death.

Steve

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:47 PM

Thanks Sean!  I am happy with the way it is looking so far.  I didn't go hog-wild detailing the office like the last 109 I built, as I rarely (if ever) look at the cockpits after I build the kit.  Just added a couple details to "clutter" it up a tad. Big Smile [:D]

PE as in photoetch?  Gotta be honest, haven't really tried much of it.  Sure looks like nice stuff though. Thumbs Up [tup]  I have an AM SBD-3 I want to finish, but the PE dive flaps I got for it to replace the horrible warped kit parts scare me a little. Blush [:I]

I did paint the gray with Tamiya XF-63 German Gray, and detail paints are Vallejo. Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Summit on Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:38 PM
Wow~Wee  Frank- That IP looks nice Approve [^] Thumbs Up [tup].  I wish I had caught this was a Hasegawa kit earlier in the build, as I am sure I have some 109 PE hid away somewhere. Not sure which varient though. Is the interior painted with Tamiya Acrylics ? 
Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:23 PM

I finally have WIP photos to share!  The cockpit is mostly finished, just need to give the white oil paint used to color the gauge details a day or two more to dry before adding the lenses.  The fuselage is glued up, and the seams are mostly finished except for the bottom fuselage between the wing and tail.  I also thinned the blade openings in the spinner to better replicate the sheet metal spinner housing.  I hadn't planned on working on the spinner yet, but it seemed that I had better get moving on it!  Just need to detail the rear cockpit bulkhead and paint it before adding the office. Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by sidure on Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:18 PM

Been out of town for work the last few days. Great work guys and I hope to get some work done tonight as I am at home tomorrow. Want to get the gear on tonight and ready for the dullcoat.

Steve

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:29 PM

Oh-oh... I don't know!!!

Great, another round of pouring through references, and IT'S ALL DAVE'S FAULT!!!

Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Frank 

 

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Posted by razordws on Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:26 PM

Nice work Aaron.  You're really giving us a tutorial in basic scratch building here. 

Frank, I know it's all white but which white, insignia white, navy white, gloss white...  Whistling [:-^]  If I've confused the issue you know who to blame. Wink [;)]

Dave

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:02 PM
 sfcmac wrote:

 Daywalker wrote:
Blush [:I]  Believe it or not, I haven't even started on the prop and spinner! Shock [:O]  I shall start on it right away Sir! Wink [;)]

Angry [:(!]Grumpy [|(]Disapprove [V]Yuck [yuck]Sad [:(]Thumbs Down [tdn]Ashamed [*^_^*]Boohoo [BH]

I live for those Propeller pics! Propeller [8-]

Oh, sure... I spend hours and hours slaving over not one, but TWO cockpits and all anyone wants to see is the propeller. Boohoo [BH] LOL

I hate to say this, but the one on the G-4 is not very exciting- all white. Sigh [sigh]

Mac- Outstanding work!  You are turning into a scratchbuilding extrodinaire.  Well done! Approve [^]

Frank 

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:46 PM
 sfcmac wrote:

On that kazoo looking thingie that Frank explained to me. On Page 30 and Guy page 31, Venturi tube?  ( sounds like pasta)

Hmmmm Guy didn't read the post me thinks! Of course I saw your picy and you and Frank are responsible for the outcome, We still however know where to place the fault! Laugh [(-D]

Sean thanks and I have plenty more to be innovative with thanks to you! Bow [bow]

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:13 PM

Nice work on the scissors, Big boy. Thats a gimmie on all my builds. The moulded on scissors never look right to me. And for an easy fix, it really makes a difference to the look.

The kazoo thingy looks right to me. Did you see the pic i posted? On the 205 in the museum. I think that yours is closer to 'Real' scale than the kit part.

Here it is again, incase you couldnt be bothered to go back and look LOL.

Ive just sat through the film 'St Trinnians', thats 120 minutes of my life ill never get back!!!! I may be able to get some modelling done tomorrow. You never know. One of my missions on it is to reproduce the cabling in the U/C well, like Aaron did but in 1/32. Geez. It all sounds like hard work to me LOL.

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by Summit on Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:10 PM
 sfcmac wrote:

 May have errored on the small side a bit? 


See you could build 1/72 scale with no Problem. Big Smile [:D]Thumbs Up [tup] 

Great inovative ideas, that the kind of Modeling I like. 

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by sfcmac on Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:58 PM

What no updates! Oh my! This won't do!  I haven' got much but will show what I squeezed in today!

I thought these doo dads on the sprue were grab handles or hoses . Nope the are the scissor spring for the landing gear? Shock [:O] Round? I donnu but I took my PE shears and cut some triangular hourglass looking shape out of PE fret garbage and bent them. I think it will look more the part.

On that kazoo looking thingie that Frank explained to me. On Page 30 and Guy page 31, Venturi tube?  ( sounds like pasta)  I tried to measure one up and recreate or scratch one out of stretched sprue. I used the cones created by the stretch and cut off two of them to size. Drilled out the holes and glued them together in an hour glass shape.  Again compared to the kit part above them with all the flash distortion and ejector pin marks I think It will look better. May have errored on the small side a bit?  Looks like the pics they posted to me.  Whatcha think? Does it look like a kazoo thingie?

Everything is painted and decaled and sitting to dry. Should be finished soon. That is as soon as I find my windscreen! Confused [%-)]Banged Head [banghead] I guess there is no hope for me. AND WHOSE FAULT IS THAT!?!?!? Wink [;)]

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Posted by sfcmac on Thursday, January 29, 2009 12:49 PM

 Daywalker wrote:
Blush [:I]  Believe it or not, I haven't even started on the prop and spinner! Shock [:O]  I shall start on it right away Sir! Wink [;)]

Angry [:(!]Grumpy [|(]Disapprove [V]Yuck [yuck]Sad [:(]Thumbs Down [tdn]Ashamed [*^_^*]Boohoo [BH]

I live for those Propeller pics! Propeller [8-]

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:42 AM
 razordws wrote:

 Daywalker wrote:
Guy- After seeing Dave's work on that kit, they should retire it as no one can top it.  Kinda like retiring a sports jersey. Bow [bow]

To which kit are you refering too Frank.  The psychadelic paint job was the Br 20.  Sean has ordered the Ca 311.  I have the Ca 311 in the stash from the Secret Santa GB but have not yet built it.  I know, I know, Italian is all Greek to you Mr. 109 Guy! Wink [;)] 

When do we get to see your Prop.?  (That sounded bad Whistling [:-^])

OOPS!!!  Sorry Dave, obviously Italian Aircraft identification eludes me.  I meant the Br 20. Blush [:I]  Believe it or not, I haven't even started on the prop and spinner! Shock [:O]  I shall start on it right away Sir! Wink [;)]

Frank 

 

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Posted by razordws on Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:35 AM

 Daywalker wrote:
Guy- After seeing Dave's work on that kit, they should retire it as no one can top it.  Kinda like retiring a sports jersey. Bow [bow]

To which kit are you refering too Frank.  The psychadelic paint job was the Br 20.  Sean has ordered the Ca 311.  I have the Ca 311 in the stash from the Secret Santa GB but have not yet built it.  I know, I know, Italian is all Greek to you Mr. 109 Guy! Wink [;)] 

When do we get to see your Prop.?  (That sounded bad Whistling [:-^])

 

Dave

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:42 AM
Guy- After seeing Dave's work on that kit, they should retire it as no one can top it.  Kinda like retiring a sports jersey. Bow [bow]  I am hard at work on the office of the 109 (yes, 109! Big Smile [:D]) and hope to have pics later.  Stay tuned for more updates from the bench of the resident turtle-speed builder. Whistling [:-^]

Frank 

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:52 AM

Morning all.  Not so many replys to go through this morn. Does that mean that your all heads down, working hard? I hope so kids. Sean, that is a gorgeous score. I think thats what the Heinkell 111 would have looked like if they had designed it. Far more gorgeous looking.

Frank, you neednt worry about the Italieri kits, theyre great. The newer ones even come with some documentary reference to the subject in them. Overall thier stuff is very nearly on a par with Tamigawa.

Well i need a good kick up the Ariss, i got in last night went upstairs to fidde at me bench and did NADA!! Well, i fiddled with a dodgy vent for about 2 hrs. Whats wrong with me. Id normally have build a couple of kits in that time. I think maybe its the shift im on giving me the heebies, that and the fact that i didnt finish the CR and had to put it to one side. I am a creature of habit you know. I never normally start another kit till the 1st is on my shelf. You all know who's to blame, dont we?

This is my last day at work before a long weekend, Fri Sat Sun and Mon off, Woo hoo, but SWMBO'ed has shed loads of stuff for me to do tomorrow. I only hope i can get some bench time. One of the things i am doing tomorrow is going to the LHS for a couple of kits. More on that later. They wont be RA kits im afraid. I have another RA kit coming through the post though. That should be here today or tomorrow.

Keep up the good work all.

...Guy 

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:15 PM
 Summit wrote:

Thanks for the replys on the Chi~202

Guy - I still had to "Dullcoat" the prop as it was still Gloss white in the pics. I had also toyed with an antenna wire but I changed my mind real quick while attempting to do so. Whistling [:-^]

SC- I have been on a "Wheels Up" building spree so far this year. The shelf's needed a change of pace.

Aaron -  I have missed your progress reports.  I was using my Airbrush to get the prop to spin. We do not get wind where I live now. One of the reasons I like it so well here. 

Now this is Super Cool - Check out what I just ordered for a Future Build here

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSTX9&P=7

I cant wait until it gets here Tongue [:P]

Thats gonna be sweeeeet. looks like a lot of canopy masking, but you are the king of handbrushing, aren't you?

I'm going to the beach in March for a week, think I'll take along a ship model.

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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:14 PM
 Summit wrote:

Frank - Is building a 109 Confused [%-)] What is up with that ? I think we should pool in and buy him a "Cant.Z.1007" to build next. Thumbs Up [tup]

Shock [:O]  Takes me forever to build a single engine fighter from Hasegawa, prolly would take me two years to build and paint that one. Disapprove [V]

Thanks Aaron for that badge!  The decal sheet has it, just doesn't show it on that aircraft.  Guess when the time comes, I shall decide which way to go with it.

Sean- THAT is a gorgeous 202!  Love the in-flight with spinning prop, very cool.  Alex looks ready for biz! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by razordws on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:51 PM

Sean, the Macchi 202 is looking spectacular.  I love it! Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Gotta run more later!

Dave

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Posted by Summit on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:23 PM

Thanks for the replys on the Chi~202

Guy - I still had to "Dullcoat" the prop as it was still Gloss white in the pics. I had also toyed with an antenna wire but I changed my mind real quick while attempting to do so. Whistling [:-^]

SC- I have been on a "Wheels Up" building spree so far this year. The shelf's needed a change of pace.

Aaron -  I have missed your progress reports.  I was using my Airbrush to get the prop to spin. We do not get wind where I live now. One of the reasons I like it so well here. 

Now this is Super Cool - Check out what I just ordered for a Future Build here

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSTX9&P=7

I cant wait until it gets here Tongue [:P]

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by sfcmac on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:05 PM

Wow Sean that is a sharp looking little fighter!  I agree that is refreshing to see a wheels up display and the prop blur? How'd you do that? Open the door and let the wind blow in? Blow Dryer?  Amazing! I can't see you puffing away while you take the pic unless your really coordinated!

I like it!

 Frank, no joy on the 109. Most I could find was that badge and some unit stuff and it wasn't about 109's oddly. I found the badge at that Stormo link you posted a while back.

Guy I am with you in dismal lack of free time at the moment. Post and run is the color of the last few days. Confused [%-)] I get a little done and set her aside to dry. Again I am having the decal issues with the roundrals. So much clear carrier. I really futured her up this time. Very shiny but even after appling pressure with a warm damp cotton cloth, the raised details still create bubbles and sivering. ( used Hasegawa decals this time, same result) Same cure as well applied some solveset full strength and with a new sharp knife stabbed a bunch of micro holes in the bubbles to let air escape. I let the decals dry first before doing that and they hold up fine. A final shot of solvested to smooth things over and the finally snuggle down enough to be acceptable. That 5 step process takes a lot of time though. Per decal. Banged Head [banghead]

Haven't seen any condensation on my windows that I can recall. The temp here isn't too bad went down to 39 but the sun was shining bright again today. Those decals should fade quick.

After everything drys just have to add the windscreen, guns and little stuff and she should be ready to fly!  It is really turning out quite nice for what I started with!  Sean inspired me withy his great looking bird up there. Get one of the oldys looking good gives a great sense of accomplishment!

Who all is about done?  Sean, Steve, Dave and I'll say Guy cuz he will be I don't know what is in that tea but I want some!

 HK, Bondo, and Alex are awaiting kits.

Frank is propeller prepping.

Anyone else I missed?

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Posted by soulcrusher on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:58 PM

Sweet job Sean that Macchi looks awesome. Nice change of pace doing it on a stand wheels up and prop spinning.I really did'nt give it a thought but that nose dose look like Ferrari Red!

Guy did they lower the bumpers specificly for your bus or for all the others also?Big Smile [:D] Thats why I love playing Grand Theft Auto on my PS3. There is nothing more satisfying than driving up on the sidewalk at high speed and sending bodies flying through the air after an agravating day at work. Great stress relief.  If a car in the game is in my way I just toss a grenade underneather it and drive off! Works like a charm!

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Posted by Luftwoller on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:40 PM

Oooo Eeeee. Sean, shes looking sweeeeet. I love the prop blur. Whats left to do, looks finished to me.

I only ran over a couple of the old dodders today, which isnt too bad now we have lowered the bumpers. They just spit off into the kerb.

...Guy

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Posted by Summit on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:02 PM

Welp - Here are some pics of my Chi-202 in Flight.

IF 1

IF 2 Still a few little things I want to add before calling it done. Wink [;)] 

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by Summit on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:51 AM

Sheesh - You leave the forum for a few hours to get some work done and all "L" breaks loose.

Guy - is running late, that means he will be speeding all over in his sluggy acelerating bus scaring the old Mum's.

Alex / Cardshark  is convinced I have a Voodoo doll of him. Just wait until I saw the head off to re~position it. Mischief [:-,]

Frank - Is building a 109 Confused [%-)] What is up with that ? I think we should pool in and buy him a "Cant.Z.1007" to build next. Thumbs Up [tup]

Bondo - is busy fonding his 1/1 Italian model until his ebay score arrives.

SC - is showing off that crossbred Ferrari / Airplane again

Arron - sticking decals to the window, I would try that but the "Ice Scraper" is in the truck my Wife has at work. 

And my update - I have been using the Supermodel "Dry Transfers" to add markings.  How sweet they are ! No decal film to silver. Got one side done and dullcoated. Waiting for it to dry to do the other. In the meantime I grabbed a "Hairy Stick" and have been painting the canopy frames. 

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by soulcrusher on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:43 AM

Thanks Steve. I have to seal up the decals under some future then I can put down my dullcoat. It should lighten up the green a bit also. I have never seen and photos of any red nosed Regia Aeronautica aircraft either but the decal sheet I bought had options for two different red nosed birds. Both from the 377 Squadreglia. It also had markings for a black nosed bird and several yellow nosed versions too. I did the red one because I had never seen one done before. I always like to do things a little different.

Guy hope you get some bench time soon. Someone has to keep MacNeil in line. He has everyone putting decals on windows now?! Although he will probally blame Dave for it!

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