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Posted by davew6003 on Monday, April 13, 2009 10:23 PM
I would be interested in joining with a 1/48 Tamiya P 51D. I will be finishing it using Alclad II if that is ok.
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Posted by vetteman42 on Monday, April 13, 2009 10:35 PM

I have to ask, does anyone have an objection to a NMF H-21 helicopter in the group ? I think it would be interesting to see because I havent seen many in NMF.

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Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by vetteman42 on Monday, April 13, 2009 10:44 PM

 davew6003 wrote:
I would be interested in joining with a 1/48 Tamiya P 51D. I will be finishing it using Alclad II if that is ok.

Davew6003 you are in and welcome

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by davew6003 on Monday, April 13, 2009 11:00 PM
 vetteman42 wrote:

 davew6003 wrote:
I would be interested in joining with a 1/48 Tamiya P 51D. I will be finishing it using Alclad II if that is ok.

Davew6003 you are in and welcome

 

Great....and Im ok with the helo. Should be interesting.

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Posted by vetteman42 on Monday, April 13, 2009 11:44 PM

 philo426 wrote:
Thanks!I wonder how this Big Bad Boy Badger would look in BMF?  

philo426 are you in with the Badger ??

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:04 AM

 Aaronw wrote:
 I could be interested as long as helicopters count. I'm thinking about another H-21 in a natural metal and red, early arctic scheme. It is probably a good 70%+ bare metal.

Aaronw you are in and welcome if you are still interested cant wait to see your H-21. What kit and scale is it ?

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Aaronw on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 10:46 AM
 vetteman42 wrote:

 Aaronw wrote:
 I could be interested as long as helicopters count. I'm thinking about another H-21 in a natural metal and red, early arctic scheme. It is probably a good 70%+ bare metal.

Aaronw you are in and welcome if you are still interested cant wait to see your H-21. What kit and scale is it ?

 

 

It is a 1/72 Italeri H-21 Workhorse. I haven't decided whether to use SNJ powder again or if I want to try aluminium foil. I've used the foil for trim on cars, but never done a whole fuselage with it. The SNJ powder worked great so there is a bit of don't mess with something that works vs trying something new. Oh well I have a few weeks to decide.

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Posted by raptordriver on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 4:55 PM

Here is a resized badge.Smile [:)]

BGBadge1.jpg picture by Raptor94

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:44 PM
I have never done a NMF. But i have a few kits i want to do it on useing Alclad II. So, if you don't mind a NMF virgin joining in who wants to learn a few tips, i would like to come in with a Hasagawa 1/72 MiG 23. Its an old hasa kit but will allow me to practice with Alclad before i move on to some other kits i want to do. The build dates suit me to, i have a few to catch up on so won't be starting my build till later in the year.

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 6:03 PM

Bish

You are in and welcome. Your Mig will be a nice build lookin forward to it. The people here are more than willing to help out. I am fairly new to NMF I have built 2 using foil so you are not alone. Might be suprised what you will learn here.

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by raptordriver on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 6:06 PM

Randy, you said you foiled a whole wing with the T-bolt, but did only one panel at a time with the mustang. Why?

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 6:14 PM
Hmmmm... I may have something in the stash that will tempt me over the time period... just gotta get some other GBs done 1st...

 

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Posted by Lancair IV on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 6:52 PM
 raptordriver wrote:

Randy, you said you foiled a whole wing with the T-bolt, but did only one panel at a time with the mustang. Why?

 

Hey Raptordriver....The B-24 I posted pictures of was done 1 panel at a time.  This was done to show different panels of the aluminum.  By rotating the BMF grain during the application, it gives the appearance of real life panels.  I also burnished some panels and polished others as I went.  Pictures really don't do her justice.

Hope this helps.

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Rob Byrnes

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 7:29 PM
 Lancair IV wrote:
 raptordriver wrote:

Randy, you said you foiled a whole wing with the T-bolt, but did only one panel at a time with the mustang. Why?

 

Hey Raptordriver....The B-24 I posted pictures of was done 1 panel at a time.  This was done to show different panels of the aluminum.  By rotating the BMF grain during the application, it gives the appearance of real life panels.  I also burnished some panels and polished others as I went.  Pictures really don't do her justice.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Hey Raptordriver

 Lancaire has one of the reasons I did one panel at a time,actually was a nice side effect I discovered. I had HUGE trouble foiling around compound curves, wrinkles, air bubbles and such, on the P-47 almost drove me to drinking. Foil will streach a bit but ya cant shrink it. Doing it one panel at a time solved that, especially on a P-51 with all its compound curves, it was a breeze compaired to the 47. To be honest the only problem I had on the P-51 was at the wingroot I ended up using a narrow piece about 1/4 inch wide to make that work. Also as Lancaire said turning the grain differant directions really made it look real. Wish I could take better pictures to show it. Oh one more thing I found if I started the foil at the smallest part on a curve and worked it to the larger part it came out with little trouble.

Hope this answers your question

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Lancair IV on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 9:47 PM
 vetteman42 wrote:
 Lancair IV wrote:
 raptordriver wrote:

Randy, you said you foiled a whole wing with the T-bolt, but did only one panel at a time with the mustang. Why?

 

Hey Raptordriver....The B-24 I posted pictures of was done 1 panel at a time.  This was done to show different panels of the aluminum.  By rotating the BMF grain during the application, it gives the appearance of real life panels.  I also burnished some panels and polished others as I went.  Pictures really don't do her justice.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Hey Raptordriver

 Lancaire has one of the reasons I did one panel at a time,actually was a nice side effect I discovered. I had HUGE trouble foiling around compound curves, wrinkles, air bubbles and such, on the P-47 almost drove me to drinking. Foil will streach a bit but ya cant shrink it. Doing it one panel at a time solved that, especially on a P-51 with all its compound curves, it was a breeze compaired to the 47. To be honest the only problem I had on the P-51 was at the wingroot I ended up using a narrow piece about 1/4 inch wide to make that work. Also as Lancaire said turning the grain differant directions really made it look real. Wish I could take better pictures to show it. Oh one more thing I found if I started the foil at the smallest part on a curve and worked it to the larger part it came out with little trouble.

Hope this answers your question

 

 

Hey Randy... I should have waited till you posted.  I didn't mean to step on you.

 

Sorry

 

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by Lancair IV on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 9:52 PM

I forgot.  Here's another BMF project.  It's the Monogram 1/32 F-51 Mustang.

 

 

The biggest mistake I made was applying dull coat over the BMF.  It looks too dull know and I'm not happy with it.  This picture was taken before the dull coat was sprayed.  Oh well.  Live and learn.

 

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Rob Byrnes

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 10:02 PM

Hey Lancaire I didnt feel you steppin on me not to worry.

I have to ask, the second picture of your P-51 how did you darken the panel around the exhaust stacks. I used the dull side of the foil on mine then dullcoat over future and dark grey pastels. I ask cause I like yours. I want to do another 51 but a BMF used looking version. I like your P-51D.

 

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Aaronw on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:07 AM
I read somewhere that you can use 0000 steel wool to dull the sheen of aluminum foil.
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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 1:09 AM

Aaronw

The steelwool does dull the foil a bit but not much. I use it mostly to give the foil kind of a patina that hides the corse grain of the aluminum foil. Thing is you have to clear coat it right after you use the steelwool because where ever you touch it you will end up with black fingerprints on the model. I use latex gloves to handle the model even while I am burnishing it.

 

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 1:36 AM
 vetteman42 wrote:

Bish

You are in and welcome. Your Mig will be a nice build lookin forward to it. The people here are more than willing to help out. I am fairly new to NMF I have built 2 using foil so you are not alone. Might be suprised what you will learn here.

 

I am sure i will learn plenty. My armour models have come along leaps and bounds thanks to the forum, just need to get working on my aircraft now.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Lancair IV on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:58 AM
 vetteman42 wrote:

Hey Lancair I didnt feel you steppin on me not to worry.

I have to ask, the second picture of your P-51 how did you darken the panel around the exhaust stacks. I used the dull side of the foil on mine then dullcoat over future and dark grey pastels. I ask cause I like yours. I want to do another 51 but a BMF used looking version. I like your P-51D.

 

 

 

Hey Randy,

 

     I used a different type of BMF around the exhaust stacks.  I used Chrome on the entire aircraft and ultra bright chrome around the exhaust.  Like I said, I should have never hit the model with dull coat.  I wish I could bring it back to life..

 

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by Lancair IV on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:28 AM
Hey guys.....This is my first Group Build.  How do I embed the logo into my signature?

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by Lancair IV on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:35 AM

Never mind.  I'm an idiot.  I got it.

 

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Rob Byrnes

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:46 PM

Wow LancairIV all those nice builds and this is your first BG ?? It seems there are a number of first going here, this is the first time I have started a BG and I just finished my first BG.

Oh Please check the front page for GB badges we now have 2 and I hope more will show up so we can pick one or 2 for the offical BG Badge.

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by silentmodeler on Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:25 PM

hey guys

i might join this group build but not sure what to build but i need to clear up something.  does it have to be foil? since i never experience using or never hear of using the foil.  how does it work?  put foil on the model and glue it under it?   let me know thanks.

i will let u know which model i will build for this gb okay  thanks

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:46 PM
OK, sign me up... a Revell 1/48 F-84 Thunderjet...

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:13 PM
 silentmodeler wrote:

hey guys

i might join this group build but not sure what to build but i need to clear up something.  does it have to be foil? since i never experience using or never hear of using the foil.  how does it work?  put foil on the model and glue it under it?   let me know thanks.

i will let u know which model i will build for this gb okay  thanks

Hi Silentmodeler

No you dont have to use foil, you can use paints like Alclad or simular, and there is powder like SNJ that can be used. I hear Krylon makes a paint that works well you can get that at the local hardware store. I use foil with Microscale Micro Metal Adhesive a preassure sensitive glue. If you like ask questions any of the builders in this group are more than happy to help out. So jump on in and build a NMF can be any aircraft you like. Here is a how to link for the foil method that should answer some questions its the one I read to get me started.

 http://www.finescale.com/fsm/default.aspx?c=a&id=283

 

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:16 PM

Stikpusher you are in and welcome to the group

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Lancair IV on Saturday, April 18, 2009 3:59 PM

Seeing as this is my first group build, someone explain to me how much or how little detail we are supposed to post.  When can we start building and posting?

 

Thanks

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, April 18, 2009 6:19 PM
The start date for this build is the 1st of May, so no touching the kit until then. Just post as many pics as you think are useful to the group. No need to flood us with every part glued and painted but also we don't just want a pic from the start and the finished model. And any tips or problems you have encoutered.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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