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                        ARMOR - Sherman Family Group Build

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                        shermanfreak
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        ARMOR - Sherman Family Group Build
                        Posted by shermanfreak on Friday, December 12, 2003 10:30 PM
                        Seeing as the interest is quite strong to give this one a whirl, here we go.

                        Grab your Shermie kits off the shelves and get ready to spray some O.D.

                        Ok .... the ground rules are very simple

                        1) Any manufacturer, even if you empty your parts box to build one.

                        2) Any Scale - big or small, build 'em all

                        3) Anything goes - O.O.B., A.M., P.E., Scratchbuilding, Dios ... whatever floats your boat

                        4) Start Date - January 15

                        5) Completion Date - March 15 (gives them slow pokes plenty of time)

                        6) Acceptable kits - Any variant of the Sherman including M10, M36,
                        M36 B1, M35, M32, Achilles ... the list goes on ... if unsure ... ask.

                        The object will be to get as many different variants of the Sherman Family built. Let's see how we do.

                        I will be building a Sherman Ic Firefly from Dragon. This kit has been O.O.P. for some time but I managed to lay hands on one a couple of months ago. This is the composite hull Sherman and I will be using the Jordi Rubio barrel on this build.

                        So let's have a little fun with this build !!!!
                        Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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                        renarts
                        • Member since
                          April 2003
                        • From: Sunny Florida
                        Posted by renarts on Friday, December 12, 2003 10:35 PM
                        I'll be doing Dragons M4A4 Brit version with either Brit or Canadian markings. 1/35th scale. As I said before, I consider this a temporary exile.

                        All my german armor is giving me dirty looks..........Mischief [:-,]

                        Mike
                        Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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                        mark956
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by mark956 on Friday, December 12, 2003 10:38 PM
                        I"m in Robert. I will be building my M4A3 Sherman Calliope.
                        mark956
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 12, 2003 10:46 PM
                        Now I gotta go find a Sherman.
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                        mark956
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by mark956 on Friday, December 12, 2003 10:49 PM
                        The March 15 dead line date is great. I believe that Hobbytown USA will be holding a model contest in mid-march.
                        mark956
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                        J-Hulk
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: Tochigi, Japan
                        Posted by J-Hulk on Saturday, December 13, 2003 12:18 AM
                        Man, I'd love to join, but I'm already involved with three other GBs (in name, anyway!) plus other commitments, so I can't join this build.

                        But just to show ya my heart's in the right place, here's a list o' kits in the closet I COULD build with ya:

                        1/35:
                        Dragon Firefly Vc (the new one)
                        Tamiya M4 (early)
                        Italeri M4A1
                        Academy Achilles
                        AFV Club M10

                        1/72:
                        Hasegawa M4A3E8

                        I'm looking forward to seeing all of ya'll's great works that'll be coming out of this build!Big Smile [:D]
                        ~Brian
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 13, 2003 6:03 AM
                        i will be Building the Sherman Firefly Tracks (trying to) Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]
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                        djmodels1999
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: United Kingdom / Belgium
                        Posted by djmodels1999 on Saturday, December 13, 2003 7:25 AM
                        I'm gonna first look into my Sherman bible before deciding on what I'll be doing... Really like the Calliope but the Esci kit is very rare and Italeri hasn't re-issued it yet, as far as I know...
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                        mark956
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by mark956 on Saturday, December 13, 2003 9:51 AM
                        Domi, I found everything I needed for my calliope on E-bay. I don't know it you want to take the time and look around, you might get lucky.
                        mark956
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                        djmodels1999
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: United Kingdom / Belgium
                        Posted by djmodels1999 on Saturday, December 13, 2003 12:48 PM
                        I'll be looking, Mark. Thanks.
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                        okieboy
                        • Member since
                          July 2003
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by okieboy on Saturday, December 13, 2003 1:32 PM
                        Woohoo! TARGETS!! Muh hah hah hah hah!!!!! Wink [;)] Evil [}:)]

                        Sorry, I couldn't resist. It's...just the... darkside...coming out! Run for your lives!!! Tongue [:P] (Lookout, a Stug!)


                        Okieboy


                        "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence upon those who would do us harm." George Orwell
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                        tigerman
                        • Member since
                          March 2003
                        • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
                        Posted by tigerman on Saturday, December 13, 2003 3:13 PM
                        Sadly that leaves me out, have a good build and i look forward to your guys work.

                        http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

                         Eric 

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                        wipw
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        • From: Utah - USA
                        Posted by wipw on Saturday, December 13, 2003 3:38 PM
                        I'll probably go with either the Dragon Firefly Vc (2nd or 3rd run kit), or the Italeri US Marines M4 Sherman. I'll decide after I get further into my Panther build.

                        BTW: greatmodels has the AFV M-10 Achilles on sale right now for about $20.

                        Good luck all,

                        Bill
                        Bill ========================================================== DML M4A2 Red Army ========================================================== ========================================================== -- There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness". (Author unknown)
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 13, 2003 3:43 PM
                        Well folks, I was walking through Hobby Lobby and a poor, lost little puppy of the M4A3 105mm breed attached itself to me and followed me home! Big Smile [:D]

                        I believe this is one of Tamiya's newer (read accurate) kits? I want to build my Sherman with added detail (indy tracks?) but I will need to take a break from the massive accurizing effort from the Panther.
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                        shermanfreak
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        Posted by shermanfreak on Saturday, December 13, 2003 3:56 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by tigerman

                        Sadly that leaves me out, have a good build and i look forward to your guys work.


                        Maybe they'll be a Sherman under the tree for you this year Eric .... or a money order to your LHS with Sherman written all over it.
                        Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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                        shermanfreak
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        Posted by shermanfreak on Saturday, December 13, 2003 4:00 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by claymore68

                        Well folks, I was walking through Hobby Lobby and a poor, lost little puppy of the M4A3 105mm breed attached itself to me and followed me home! Big Smile [:D]

                        I believe this is one of Tamiya's newer (read accurate) kits? I want to build my Sherman with added detail (indy tracks?) but I will need to take a break from the massive accurizing effort from the Panther.


                        Got to love it when a Sherman follows you home Derek. Yes indeed that is one of the newer Tamiya Shermans and those rubber band tracks that come with it are probably the best I have ever seen.

                        Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 13, 2003 5:02 PM
                        I'm not sure about accuracy, but the tamiya 105mm m4 is half new half old. The turret is new tool, which makes me wonder why the bottom part of my turret didnt fit perfectly. I had to sand down some of it. Half of the tank crew figures are new, the old halves can go in your spares pile. The non tank crew figures are new. The entire lower hull and everything attached is from an older sherman. I think the lower hull stuff came from the m4 early made by tamiya. The road wheels dont have details on the insides. I haven't finished it yet, but i think theres a huge hole at the back of the tank. Its on the underside though. Seems like a good kit though since it includes so many extras i can probably put some in my 2.5ton truck. Most of the bad things cant be seen unless you flip the tank over. I guess i cant complain since i got it at a hobby lobby half off sale.
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                        M1abramsRules
                        • Member since
                          June 2003
                        Posted by M1abramsRules on Saturday, December 13, 2003 5:20 PM
                        Okay I went to the hobby shop yesterday and an academy m10 caught my eye so that's what I'll be doing.
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                        mark956
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by mark956 on Saturday, December 13, 2003 6:43 PM
                        I have modelkasten tracks for my Sherman. My question is Indy tracks any better than modelkasten? I opened the box of modelkasten tracks and there are a lot of small parts and this has me a little worried.
                        mark956
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                        M1abramsRules
                        • Member since
                          June 2003
                        Posted by M1abramsRules on Saturday, December 13, 2003 7:51 PM
                        how are the academy m10's tracks? should i look at am for them, or will the kit's suffice???
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                        M1abramsRules
                        • Member since
                          June 2003
                        Posted by M1abramsRules on Saturday, December 13, 2003 10:01 PM
                        anyone make a turned aluminum barrel for the m7 76.2mm gun? I looked a bit and I didn't dee one.
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                        shermanfreak
                        • Member since
                          January 2003
                        Posted by shermanfreak on Saturday, December 13, 2003 10:26 PM
                        Mark - Modelkasten tracks are Indy tracks. I haven't tried any of their Sherman stuff but have heard good things about them. Another company that makes good Sherman tracks is RHPS.

                        Chris - The M10 kit comes with the 3-bar cleat style of track. This track was predominently found on vehicles used by the French and British but it is not unheard of on other Allied vehicles. As for barrels, the Barrel Store carries a barrel for the M10 here's a link for the page and look under Barrel Depot.
                        http://www.bentbutnotbroken.com/Barrels.htm

                        Pantsless - the 105 Sherman is based on the old M4A3 kit. Like you mentioned it uses the old hull from that kit with redesigned turret and a new set of tracks.
                        Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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                        M1abramsRules
                        • Member since
                          June 2003
                        Posted by M1abramsRules on Saturday, December 13, 2003 10:28 PM
                        thanks Robert!!!!
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                        M1abramsRules
                        • Member since
                          June 2003
                        Posted by M1abramsRules on Saturday, December 13, 2003 10:33 PM
                        man, shipping is going to be $9 on a $7.92 item.
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                        mark956
                        • Member since
                          February 2003
                        • From: USA
                        Posted by mark956 on Saturday, December 13, 2003 11:42 PM
                        Thanks Robert. I will have to study the instructions and hopfully the tracks will come together.
                        mark956
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 14, 2003 1:33 AM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by M1abramsRules

                        anyone make a turned aluminum barrel for the m7 76.2mm gun? I looked a bit and I didn't dee one.


                        In the nomenclature of the time this was the 3" gun. I am assuming you mean M7 Priest with the 3" howitzer.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 14, 2003 8:48 AM
                        Anybody got a Jumbo kit they could part with?
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                        M1abramsRules
                        • Member since
                          June 2003
                        Posted by M1abramsRules on Sunday, December 14, 2003 9:14 AM
                        QUOTE: In the nomenclature of the time this was the 3" gun. I am assuming you mean M7 Priest with the 3" howitzer.

                        nope, each gun had there designation numbers too. the m10 had the M7 76.2mm gun. the m18 had the M1a1 76.2mm etc.
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                        Anonymous
                        • Member since
                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 14, 2003 9:34 AM
                        OK Chris, I just didn't make the M7/M10 connection.Blush [:I]

                        All my sources still say 3" though, not 76.2 mm. Big Smile [:D]Tongue [:P]
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                        M1abramsRules
                        • Member since
                          June 2003
                        Posted by M1abramsRules on Sunday, December 14, 2003 9:49 AM
                        woops sorry meant to clarify that too. 76.2mm is 3in.Wink [;)]Big Smile [:D]Evil [}:)]
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