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ARMOR - Sherman Family Group Build

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 19, 2003 7:20 AM
Robert, sounds great! Also, like 'M1Abramsrules' says, I'll post in progress works on RonUSMC's page. ..... I hope.

Ron
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 19, 2003 7:29 AM
ngc7293,

Beware of the Commanders Models "Skink".

The turret doesn't represent either the early or the late. It will have to be modified to represent either (it's closer to the early turret). The drive sprockets for the Canadian Dry Pin Tracks are a Joke. The kit doesn't include the Canadian dry pin tracks and that is one item that I don't believe has been released by anybody.

But having said all this, an accurate Skink can be built from the kit. There was one of the Skinks which used regular Sherman tracks and had the early turret. You will need to modify the turret to the early version. Get some after-market tracks to match the ones that were on the one.

Check out the Hunnicutt on the Sherman. There are several good photo's of the Skinks in there. Including the one with the early turret and the Sherman tracks.

I hope this helps.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 19, 2003 9:42 AM
Hey! Good news from my Guard unit!!! We're OFF ALERT! This means I'll be able to participate in this build! I'm both happy and a bit sad about this change in our status. However, there's still a chance in the future, so that part of me still has hope for a deployment, while the other part is happy to be staying 'home' with my family! A good Christmas gift!

Ron.
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Friday, December 19, 2003 9:52 AM
That's good news Ron!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 19, 2003 9:57 AM
That is great news!

I'm glad you can participate and glad that you can spend Christmas with family.
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Posted by wipw on Friday, December 19, 2003 4:26 PM
Ditto, Ron. Congrats on being able to be home. I get what you say about the double feelings, though.

Bill
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Posted by shermanfreak on Friday, December 19, 2003 6:00 PM
Great news Ron !!! A great Christmas gift.

Re: Skink - Contacted Commanders about a year ago and the kit is OOP and was told that there was no plans for the future to re-release it. As Latch has already pointed out, not the best in the world anyway.

CDP indy resin tracks can be purchased from S-Models in Poland for $5 U.S. I've built a couple of their kits, typical Eastern European, but have no experience with these tracks at all.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by mark956 on Friday, December 19, 2003 9:16 PM
Great news Ron. The more the merrier in this group build.
mark956
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 20, 2003 8:22 AM
SOUNDS FUN,i need to look for 1
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 20, 2003 9:38 AM
for those who like Skinks

this is a big picture so you might have to save it to see it large?
and RIP Skink


about the Skink tracks, have you tryed the Acurate Armour Trackspacks?
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Posted by shermanfreak on Saturday, December 20, 2003 4:27 PM
Jon - no luck with Accurate Armour .... they don't carry CDP tracks.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by mark956 on Saturday, December 20, 2003 4:33 PM
I want to have sand bags on my Sherman Calliope. Who makes the most realistic sand bags. I could go to missing-lynx flea market. Some guy has a Kirin m4 hull with sand bags for $15.00. What would you guys recommend.
mark956
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 20, 2003 4:41 PM
Mark have you tryed using Milliput or that type of stuff for sandbags
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Posted by mark956 on Saturday, December 20, 2003 4:48 PM
Jon, I have never used Milliput before. I do not know if I want to scratch build sand bags, but that might have to happen.
mark956
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 20, 2003 4:55 PM
IMHO Scratchbuilt sandbags look the best.

They sit where they are suppose too and you have the exact number you need. They even look like they have conformed to the shape of the vehicle.

Just my 2 cents.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 20, 2003 4:58 PM
ive not done it myself but i ive seen that you make a sandbag shape with it and use a cocktail stick around the edges to make the seamCowboy [C):-)]
im sure someone else on here will beable to tell you in a more clearer way than meDunce [D)]
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Posted by shermanfreak on Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mark956

I want to have sand bags on my Sherman Calliope. Who makes the most realistic sand bags.
mark956


You do Mark !!! You just don't know it yet. I agree 100% with both Latch and Jon, none better than the ones you make yourself. I use 2 part epoxy putty to make mine instead of milliput though.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by mark956 on Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:03 PM
I have also read that some one used chiclet gum to make the sand bags. They put the gum in water to disolve the hard shell, used a hankerchief to give it texture and used a hobby knife to create the seams.
mark956
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Posted by shermanfreak on Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:05 PM
Furthering the saga of the Skink ..... I'm not sure if anyone is going to take a crack at building this turret for the build, but here's some more pictures of the only other known surviving turret (Jon's pic is the second one found).
Maybe you all would like these for some future builds though.
These pics were taken a the R.C.A. Museum in Shilo, Manitoba.










Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by shermanfreak on Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:13 PM
Mark - Here's the method that I use to make sandbags.
1) Using A-B Putty, I combine the two parts and then roll it out into a long "snake".
2) Flatten the whole thing out a bit
3) cut out a bunch of sandbag lengths
4) press a seam into the edges with a toothpick
5) apply to the model, molding it to the contures of the vehicle at the same time
6) press the exterior with some course material to leave an impression
7) allow to dry, then paint and weather.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by mark956 on Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:16 PM
Thanks Robert. I will try to scratch build sand bags.
mark956
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:34 PM
Robert and Jon,

Thanks for the pictures of the Skink.

Makes me want to dig it out. But, I'm probably only going to get one kit finished for the Sherman Build.

BTW: Don't anybody forget about the M36B1! Italeri made that kit and you can occasionally find it. I found one in a hobby shop minus instructions. I paid $9 for it. Who needs instructions?
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Posted by shermanfreak on Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:50 PM
Just finished building that one Latch .... a decent enough kit but the turret kind of sucks. With the release of the new M36 from Academy I may take another run at it someday using the turret from them and slapping it on either and Italeri or Tamiya hull.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:59 PM
Robert,


You are right about the turret, but it was miles ahead of the old M36 Tamiya offering.

Your idea would definitely be the way to go.
I would tip my hat to the Tamiya hull. The exhaust and the pioneer tools are better. But I'd swap the bogies for the Academy ones.

Just my 2 cents.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 20, 2003 6:37 PM
heres a good skink link http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/bunker/3351/allweps/skink.html

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 20, 2003 7:13 PM
Thanks for the link Jon.

It shows both the early and late turrets and both the standard Sherman tracks and the Canadian Dry Pin tracks.
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Posted by mark956 on Saturday, December 20, 2003 9:29 PM
The stink is a cool looking tank. Thanks for the links on it Jon.
mark956
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Posted by shermanfreak on Saturday, December 20, 2003 9:52 PM
Skink Mark ..... Skink !!!!!! ...... not Stink. LOL
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by mark956 on Sunday, December 21, 2003 9:42 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by shermanfreak

Skink Mark ..... Skink !!!!!! ...... not Stink. LOL


Sign - Oops [#oops] Sorry Robert it was a long day.
mark956
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Monday, December 22, 2003 12:52 AM
Hey, lots of information about the "Skink" lately, huh? But I guess that is not for me. I'll have either the M-10 or M36. These are already available here at about 10 bucks.

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