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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 8, 2004 1:04 PM
Frosty, I have some interior shots and exterior shots of an M32 based on the M4A3E8, the 'turret' should be the same on both though, so I'll start scanning tomorrow... gotta dig 'em out tonight.

Ron
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 8, 2004 12:56 PM
Frosty,

There were several different Sherman ARV's. The Americans and the British both had them. And they were different. I am assuming you want to do a American M32.

I don't know of any link info., but one of the Axis and Allies book covered the M32 in depth. Lots of good pictures there.

Also, there is the Hunnicutt. You actually may be able to check out a copy of the Hunnicutt at the local library (maybe). It's were I saw my first Hunnicutt on the Sherman.

Millitary Miniatures in Review also did a special on recovery vehicles and once again, the old reliable M32 was there too.


I hope this helps some.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 8, 2004 11:37 AM
thanx 4 posting the link, Ron & Robert !
Robert: the site looks great !
opened the box last nite, & could barely keep myself from getting
started... this is going 2 b a fun build w/ so many possibilities !
frostySmile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 8, 2004 10:38 AM
hey, everybody !

i've been thinking about what 2 do w/ my italeri cast hull m4...
can't decide between wading trunk pacific conversion
or ARV... but leaning towards ARV.
(anyone else doing that one ?)

i need some decent reference pix of the ARV (turret, the front a-frame
& the winch) so i'll know what i'm doing 4 sure...
if anybody has pix or a link, it would b a great help !

thanx in advance,
frostySmile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 8, 2004 10:09 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Erock68

QUOTE: You bet ... can hardly wait for the start ..... desk is cleaned off and ready to go.


HA! I say!

I want proof of a clean desk .....WITH PICTURES!


Don't ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies!Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 8, 2004 9:40 AM
QUOTE: You bet ... can hardly wait for the start ..... desk is cleaned off and ready to go.


HA! I say!

I want proof of a clean desk .....WITH PICTURES!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 8, 2004 7:41 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by andytank

Ok guys question of the day. The return idlers on the Sherman tracks. What were they made of? Were they solid steel? Or were they hard rubber? Or steel with rubber coating? I want to know this so I know how to paint them, thanks


Steel. As were the return rollers on the V V SS. Where the end connectors rubbed on their edges they could get very shiny, burnished. On the HVSS they were rubber tired as were the return rollers.

Ron
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:38 PM
Ok guys question of the day. The return idlers on the Sherman tracks. What were they made of? Were they solid steel? Or were they hard rubber? Or steel with rubber coating? I want to know this so I know how to paint them, thanks
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:19 PM
You should be ashamed of yourself.

LOL.

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Posted by Build22 on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:17 PM


Yeah, the blocks are huge and the pieces are wimpy ! Banged Head [banghead]


Thats why I did them now. I figured if I broke too many I could order more.


Jim [IMG]
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Posted by renarts on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:13 PM
Build.....

Denial....tsk, tsk, tsk,

Are we there yet?

Mike
Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Posted by shermanfreak on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:07 PM
Build22 - ROFLMAO ..... nice tale.
Quite the blocks on those TW suspensions aren't they !!
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by Build22 on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:04 PM


No, I really didn't.

Wanted to but I resisted !

I did cut some of the resin suspension from the casting ( i'm using tank workshop instead now ) and I did break a couple pieces and glued them together - but technically did not glue two different pieces together .............so I think I'm safe



Jim [IMG]
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Posted by Build22 on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 10:59 PM
What would be considered "starting early" ? Question [?]Question [?]


Well,
what happened was I took out all the pieces and lid them on the table, pushed them around a little ( someone else had mentioned this as a theraputic exercise to ease the craving to get rolling )

And well, I spilled some glue ....... I wasn't opening it to glue anything.....
you know........it just kind of spilled on the table...........
you know........then it got on some of the pieces .........
you know........then some of them happened to touch some of the others in precisely the way they would be put together......
you know......I turned around and it looked like the nose was all glued together ????

.......yeah that's it ......that's what happened Confused [%-)]Confused [%-)]Confused [%-)]

you know.........like I had almost meant to do it but didn't......really !
you know......stuff like that happens......



either that ..........or I think I may have been overcome with fumes from the glue.....
I think I started halucinating that it was actually Jan 15 ........

Yeah......maybe it was that too ! Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]


Well, can I be fined for that - can I be "booted" ? It was uncontrolable !! I did admit my weaknessAshamed [*^_^*]Ashamed [*^_^*]


Jim [IMG]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 9:11 PM
Thanks for your input Robert.

I'll keep them.

The VVSS system which is supplied with the BARV is of the earlier "non-upswept" trailing arm type.
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Posted by shermanfreak on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 9:03 PM
Latch . I also have a picture of an M4A1 with them on (at least that pops into my head right away).

I'd leave them, just for something a little different unless ...... the return roller mounts are upswept, then I'd change them.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 8:23 PM
Robert,

I would like your opinion.........

The Resicast BARV kit comes with the mid VVSS system with the 1/2 circle track guide plates instead of the more common shaped track guide plates.

I've seen a few pictures of vehicles with this track guide plate, but not many (an in-construction photo of a M4A4 in the Hunnicut and a WWII French M7 during Normandy). Most of the pictures I have you really can't tell which track guide the vehicle has.

Do you think keep them, or scratchbuild some of the more common track guides?

What's your opinion?

Thanks.
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 7:38 PM
35? Wow. That's great. This should become another top rating thread in the days to come.

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Posted by shermanfreak on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 7:25 PM
You bet ... can hardly wait for the start ..... desk is cleaned off and ready to go.
Heading to Calgary this weekend and pick up a few supplies (and a Shermie or two).

35 members signed up for this build .... great stuff !!!!
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by Dwight Ta-ala on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 7:11 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mark956

Sounds great Robert. T- 8 days and countingBig Smile [:D].
mark956


The pressure's building up on me...Smile [:)]

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Posted by mark956 on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 7:00 PM
Sounds great Robert. T- 8 days and countingBig Smile [:D].
mark956
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Posted by shermanfreak on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 6:52 PM
Hey Chris .... You will e-mail the finished pics to me and I will post them to the site.
As far as in progress pics go, standard hosting procedures will be in effect.

The e-mail address and the site address are both posted in my sigtag so they are easily accessible.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by mark956 on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 6:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CTrill09

hey guys how are you, i was in the hobby store and a saw the Academy M10 Gun Motor Carriage on sale so i picked it up. I just ordered some fun aftermarket parts for it and i hope they come real soon. i was hopin that i could get in on this group build, it sounds like a really good idea.

Welcome aboard CTrill09.
mark956
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Posted by CTrill09 on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 6:46 PM
since the build is just about a week away from beginning, i took a look at the website which is a really good idea, its going to be a lot of fun. I was wondering how everyones work is going to be pasted onto there. Im just curious.
- Chris
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Posted by shermanfreak on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 3:51 PM
Ctrill09 - Welcome to the group build ..... I'll add you to the website. Good to have you on board with us.

Betty - all upgraded and you're active on the site

Ron - I'll upgrade Alex's name at the same time I add Ctrill to the site

Chris - yes ... that's the one.

Eric - Thank you ... I'm happy with the way it turned out

Frosty - the site addy and e-mail addy is always in my sigtag ... just find a post of mine and click on the picture and it will be much clearer.


Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 1:27 PM
Chris,

I'll look through my reference, but the few pictures that I know I have of the M10's of the 601st have very few if any markings on them.
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 1:20 PM
I still wouldn't mind seeing those 2 pics of the 601st TD battalion. I have found 1 post-war picture in Austria and it didn't have anything but the star on the turret showing.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 1:17 PM
Is everybody set with photo references? Need anything? I'm sure somebody on this build could help out...

Ron.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 1:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by shermanfreak

OK gang .... the website is up and running.

I'll have to change your page Trevor to the 76 version though.

Anyway ... the address for the site is:
http://members.shaw.ca/ShermanGroup/

Completed pictures can be e-mailed to me at :
ShermanGroup@shaw.ca

These addresses will be on my sigtag for the duration of the build. Just click on the picture for a clearer view.



Frosty, is this what you're looking for?

Ron
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 10:38 AM
hi folks !
hope everybody's new year ( & build prep) is going just peachy !
a quick question:
can anyone post a link 2 the dedicated sherman group build site here ?
i think i missed the post w/ the address...Sad [:(]
thanx in advance !
frostySmile [:)]
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