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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 14, 2004 12:26 AM
Rather than post individual comments, I'll just say that I'm really glad this thread is still alive. Everyone is doing a great job on their projects. I check the thread every day for updates.

As you may have read in another post, my 1:72 Sherman from this group build got a silver medal in my local contest this year. I was pretty darn proud. Here's a pic of how she appeared on contest day...

Murray



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Posted by shermanfreak on Friday, May 14, 2004 1:07 AM
Should have your medal in the picture with it Murray. Once again congratulations, I've seen the work of the Saskatoon Modellers and know you were in tough in this competition.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by Build22 on Friday, May 14, 2004 7:26 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by petbat

Build, oven cleaner and toothbrush - works everytime (except on the really old formula black and yellow acrylics Tamiya did - nothing short of a blowtorch got that stuff off clean). However, the long boat decal is now dead and buried. It was too difficult to touch up to give the correct angle of the sail etc.



Good recovery, Petbat

I think I might have been tempted to the "British armor Flaminco dance" at that point




Murray - Again great job on the shermie and congrats



Jim [IMG]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 14, 2004 9:12 AM
Murray- Great kit! Love the weathering on the 1/72 beauty

Sherman- yeah, I didn't mean a wash, I meant a dull coat Dunce [D)]. Thanks, I'll try it tonight
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Posted by RAF120 on Friday, May 14, 2004 5:32 PM
Murray congrats on the silver it was well deserved
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Posted by Buddho on Friday, May 14, 2004 8:05 PM
Murray, congradulations on the medal...well deserved!

Regards, Dan

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 16, 2004 3:59 PM
Ok, I know this is a little late for most of you, but I was looking around armorama and found thishttp://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=173

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Posted by wipw on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:54 PM
Great job, Murry. Looks terrific!

Couple of questions that've probably been answered many times before:

1- Interior of a Firefly was white, but the hatches were od?

2- What's a good paint for a Firefly commander's uniform? DML conviently left the colors for the figures off the chart in the instructions!

Thanks
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Posted by shermanfreak on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:11 PM
1. correct, inside was white, inside of the hatches were the exterior colour

2. the colour that I used was a sort of Khaki in tone, here's a link showing some painted figures.
http://www.ultracast.ca/products/35/018/default.htm
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by wipw on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:19 PM
Thanks, Robert, I knew you'd have the answers!

I appreciate it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 21, 2004 12:33 PM
MurrayKish:
belated congrats on ur well-deserved award; she's a beauty !
i think it's really fun seeing what different paths we took with the same kit...Big Smile [:D]

Derek:
no apologies necessary... it's hard keeping up with all the news around here!
in fact, with so much great work by so many modelers, it's almost impossible 2 notice everything, much less comment on it.
but thanx 4 taking the time 2 check out the m32.
ur Sherman looks great... keep on keepin' on !

Bill:
ur project is looking really good ! i have a really hard time finishing stuff myself,
i get 2 the point where i just have a few last little things to add & then i just don't get around 2 it... i guess i have a problem saying goodbye 2 the project... i know it was true 4 this one 4 sure !

scubaboy & boybuddho:
thanx, fellas !

Peter:
brownie points 4 not chucking the whole thing in the trashbin or reenacting a scene from a Godzilla movie by stomping the heck out of it !
i read somewhere that the mark of a good modeler is how they recover from mistakes... looking forward to seeing ur completed project !

as 4 me, i finally e-mailed my pix & write-up 4 the GB site2 Robert today...
now if only i could find the link 2 the GB badge, LOL !

and another round of thanx 2 Robert 4 hosting this build !

best wishes 2 all,

frostySmile [:)]
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Posted by wipw on Friday, May 21, 2004 12:53 PM
Frosty;

For the group badge, fine someone's post (like Robert) that has the badge in the post and right click on it. Then select properties. Look for the address line, and highlight it. Then do a copy (you can do this by pressing CTRL C). Finally open your profile and paste the address you copied into it with [ img] and [ /img] at the front and back (without the spaces). (CTRL V will do the paste).


I put the addresses below for you (take out the spaces after http: and before .jpg)

The first one is the little image and the second is the big one.



http: //www.info.com.ph/~tdwight/GBTag .jpg




http: //members.shaw.ca/Shermieland/Graphics/GBTag .jpg


Good luck.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 21, 2004 1:45 PM
Bill:
thanx yet again 4 bailing me out ... Angel [angel]Angel [angel]Angel [angel]
i am now proudly displaying my Sherman Group Build badge !
have a great weekend !

frostySmile [:)]
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Posted by wipw on Friday, May 21, 2004 1:49 PM
Glad to help, Frosty. Thanks and you have a great weekend, too. I have to work for a few hours sometime, but shouldn't be too bad (if the computer upgrades go well!!). The weathering, tools, and tracks (ya-ha) are about all that's left on the Firefly. Been a pretty fun build.

Take care.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 21, 2004 4:48 PM
Thanks for the kind comments guys.

Have been through every kit I have and all the spare decals I've kept over the years (amazing the stuff you hoard) but I can't find any suitable decals for an Achilles other than the white 77 on Artillery red/blue square that comes with the old original Universal Carrier - funny 'cause the 77 was used post 1943 by RA units attached to Armoured Divisions and none of the other decals on the sheet belong to anything other than Infantry Divisions, and these used 43 not 77.

I have lots of spare Infantry Divison decals, but none of the ones I have are of Divisions that were equiped with Achilles. References for the Achilles in units is fairly thin on the ground.

Closest Division badge I think I can manage to make myself , is a vehicle of the Guards Armoured Division (The bull emblem of the 11th Armoured is just a bit beyond me, I think.) which is a dark blue shield with a red border and white eye in the centre. This would make it an Achilles of the 21st Anti-Tank Regiment. Funny, this just happens to be the one depicted on the box of the AFV Club Achilles (I have the Academy) but that pic also shows the vehicle has a Mickey Mouse camo pattern. Maybe I can cheat off that.

I am going to try and paint the Division emblem, so wish me luck - otherwise expect one very heavily muddied Achilles when pics are finally revealed.
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Posted by shermanfreak on Friday, May 21, 2004 6:42 PM
Peter - white 77 on red over blue square ????

If so you can use it for the 5 A.T. Regiment, 4th Canadian Armoured Division, May 1945.
They had 2 batteries that used the Achilles.

I can e-mail you the rest of the markings if you'd like, they look fairly straight forward.

Frosty - You've certainly earned the badge. Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

SITE UPDATE

As stated in an earlier post, Frosty's build is now active on the Group Build site.
Be sure to check it out, Frosty sent along some new pictures.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by RAF120 on Sunday, May 23, 2004 10:45 AM
I was just over at the site checking out Frosty's build (Very Nice Frosty) and I noticed that it's getting pretty full over there about 2/3 of us are done. I think that's pretty good.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 23, 2004 11:00 AM
Looking good every1. What great work. Frosty that is a great looking model. Every1's models r great. Thanx for the inspiration.

Keep well.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 24, 2004 1:42 AM
I think I am at a stage where I can finally call her done!! Well, I may add a wash to the tracks and I have to shoot some dull coat on a few places, but here she is. I just couldn’t bring myself to cover the running gear and those MK tracks with mud. Let me know what you guys think.





there are two more pics in the gallery of my site.

Robert, if you still want to put the pics of my build on the group site, I can email them to you, or you could just grab them from my gallery.
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Posted by Build22 on Monday, May 24, 2004 6:01 AM


Edog - Great Job ! Thumbs Up [tup]

Way to beat 'er up ! Very realistic weathering !

Nice job



Jim [IMG]
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Posted by shermanfreak on Monday, May 24, 2004 8:16 AM
Great job Erick !!!! Very impressive winter camo.

If you could, email the pics and write-up to me and I'll get them posted to the group.
ShermanGroup@shaw.ca
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 24, 2004 9:16 AM
Grea job edog!!!!
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Posted by wipw on Monday, May 24, 2004 12:27 PM
Super job, Erick. How bad were the MK's to do? They sure look nice.

Robert, back to the question about uniform color (sorry)...my lhs said to use either Tamiya or PolyS Khaki. How close are these to what you've found to be correct? I'd rather use enamels, but I can go with acrylics.

I'm having "terrific fun" with the kit tracks (DML Firefly Vc). The links are molded with 3 studs on the face. I read that they probably shouldn't be there, so I've been shaving them off each link! I could have really increased my enjoyment by hollowing out the guide horns for each link, too, but decided I couldn't stand that much fun on one model. I have to spread these things out!!
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Posted by shermanfreak on Monday, May 24, 2004 1:09 PM
Khaki should be a great starting point IMO. I have the Tamiya, and it's definitely close enough and after a little weathering should be just fine.

As far as the tracks go ... you could have left the studs on them ... type 62 tracks.


I think the end connectors are dished out just fine. Save that for your Tigers & Panthers.



Wink [;)]Wink [;)]
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by wipw on Monday, May 24, 2004 1:59 PM
Now you tell me!!! lol

Thanks, Robert. One of the reviews I read said that if you removed the studs, they would be like T-49's(?) and they were more common than the T-62's on Fireflys. But what a pain. It just takes a lot of time, but isn't hard to do. I've got close to 2/3rds of them done, so it's a little late to change my mind!! lol Also, I'm getting a BUNCH of little rivets I can use on another project. (Yeah, right! You can barely see them once they're cut off the links!) And don't worry, I have no intention of hollowing out the end connectors. I'll leave that madness to Peter!! lol

Thanks for the info on the khaki. I'll probably put on a base coat today. (I hope!!)

Have a great day.
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Posted by wipw on Monday, May 24, 2004 2:00 PM
Just noticed you're about to hit the 5000 post mark. I'm waiting to see if you will get a new "rate", more stars, or if it will just go crazy and not let you post anymore!! lol
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 24, 2004 8:33 PM
Looks great edog.
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Posted by Buddho on Monday, May 24, 2004 8:55 PM
Wow....Edog! Your M10 looks amazing...

Regards, Dan

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Posted by RAF120 on Monday, May 24, 2004 10:16 PM
Nice job Edog.
I'll have to go check out the other pictures
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Posted by shermanfreak on Monday, May 24, 2004 10:21 PM
Here you go Bill !!!!!

Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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