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The 144 Group Build - Complete, pics pg 1

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Posted by hkshooter on Friday, December 4, 2009 8:14 PM

Update on the beast.
There are a couple of nasty spots in the fuse. There is a panel that goes in the lower rear where the loading ramp would be if the cargo bay is closed up and it has some nasty gaps around it. Also, the nose is to narrow for the fuse and there are gaps there too. Along the underside there is a panel that runs from the main gear to the nose gear, nasty gaps here too. Problem is all but this last panel are supposed to be panels or doors that move so there are supposed to be panel lines there. I can't just putty them up and sand them out because there needs to be a panel line there.

It's going to be a PITA but I have to somehow reduce the gaps without actually removing them. I thought about filling them and then rescribing but I've never had any luck scribing lines through puttied areas. What to do?
If anyone is going to tackle this beast make a note, on my kit the nose is to narrow for the fuse so there is a nasty step there. The nose halves need to have about .010 added to the center join to bring things in line.

No pics tonight as everything looks the same but for some putty stripes. While that sits I'll tackle the engines.

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Posted by lewbud on Sunday, December 6, 2009 9:22 AM

Deeve,

If the Rev/Germany B-2 is the same kit as the Hobby Craft kit, I recommend building it with the gear down and the doors open.  I'm building mine with the gear up and doors closed and there is a lot of sanding to get it looking close to right.  If you're going to go inflight, I recommend getting one of those bags of Evergreen plastic odds and ends as it helps fill up the bays so you can close the doors (there's a lot of sprue in the kit to use as well).  You'll also need to fashion a wall inside the fuselage behind the intakes and exhausts as you can see all the way through.  Other than that it builds fairly easily.

HK,

The Beast is looking good.  If it's as big as you say, I may have to hold off on building it as I don't have that much space.

Have another model to add to the list of possibles as I got the Minicraft Boeing 314 Clipper kit last night at a club Christmas party.  Looks like a pretty nice kit. 

 

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by deeve on Monday, December 7, 2009 12:24 AM

Lewbud

 

Thanks for the tip. I will definitely be keeping that in mind when I start it up.

 

I plan to build it wheels down so no worries there. I have only ever done one wheels up kit and that was an Academy 1/72 Wildcat for the War in the Pacific GB.

 

 

Deeve

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Posted by cassibill on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 7:16 PM

I'm going to bump this by posting a link for 1/144 cockpits.  Some of you probably already know about them, but here's a link to Matador out of the UK.  I've got another I'll add when I find a distributor.

cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!!Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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Posted by lewbud on Wednesday, December 9, 2009 6:32 PM

Wish I'd known about Matador when I built the AC-130.  Anyone know someone who does 1/144 pilots?

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by cassibill on Wednesday, December 9, 2009 7:05 PM

Welsh make metal sitting ones. Ozmods makes resin ones.  Either would work.  Standing ones from Ozmods and Preiser both.  Ground crew from Preiser too. Anyone interested in PE tools and workstands? Resin oil drums?  I'm here for for info.  My contribution to the group build.

cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!!Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Wednesday, December 9, 2009 8:49 PM

Thanks for the infor cassi, looking at the matador for some of the kits im planning on

Andrew

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Posted by cassibill on Wednesday, December 9, 2009 9:58 PM

In that case, you might be interested in the PE WW2 Japanese seats Brengun makes, among other things.  Pretty new place.  I've only found it recently and it seems Paypal only.  If they can get the word out, it seems they have promise.

cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!!Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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Posted by hkshooter on Friday, December 11, 2009 11:36 AM

Another update.
I've been working on the engines for the last few days. Been under the weather for a few days and progress is slow but those engines and nacelles are taking up way more time than I thought they would.
They are all together now and the insides are painted and masked off. Primer has been applied to the nacelles and they are waiting on paint. I plan to paint them off the wings and install them later, easier to paint them off that big beast and simple to install afterward. Test fitting confirms they fit well.
Next time at the bench I'll get teh wings on and putty the trenches left behind.

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Posted by cassibill on Friday, December 11, 2009 1:24 PM

Which markings is she going to be in? The kit has five and there are aftermarket ones.  I just imagine working in the wheel bay.  I peeked inside (and probably took pics  of) the one they displayed at Dayton a couple years back.  It was something else.

cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!!Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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Posted by hkshooter on Friday, December 11, 2009 2:12 PM

It will be the box top version, over all white with humanitairian aid markings.
The gear bay isn't bad at all actually. Clean up on the gear is a PITA but it's really straight forward. Only looks complicated.

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Posted by lewbud on Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:39 PM

Cassi,

You would happen to know of a US carrier for Welsh or Ozmods would you?  Thanks for the info.

HK,

Got any pics yet?

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by hkshooter on Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:37 PM

lewbud,

No new pics yet. I was so distracted by fixing the fit issues with the nacelles I forgot to take inprogress pics. The rest of the airframe looks like the pic above but instead of white it's mostly primer with streaks of filler work. I'm on the third round of seam work presently. Once I'm satisfied with the seam work and things are primered and sanded I'll take another pic or two.

 

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Posted by Dirkpitt289 on Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:58 PM

I have a AC-130H and a B-47 I recently picked up. I think I'll be starting with the AC-130 and see where it goes from there.

Dirk

On The Bench:

B-17F "Old 666" [1/72]

JU-52/53 Minesweeper [1/72]

Twin Me 262's [1/72] Nightfighter and Big Cannon

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Posted by cassibill on Sunday, December 13, 2009 9:21 PM

Let me do a little more digging, I'm pretty sure neither have one.  Pacific Front carries Ozmods ship models.  Roll Models carry some stuff, but neither seem to have the conversion packs which the pilots are lumped with..  I'm not aware of any US carrier of any part of Welsh. Hannants naturally carries some in Britain.  For some reason, either they didn't look for one or they can't find one.

cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!!Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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Posted by painklr on Sunday, December 13, 2009 10:47 PM

Count me in with a F-4 Phantom.

 

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Posted by roger_wilco on Monday, December 14, 2009 10:36 AM

Are we allowed more than one kit for the build? If so,I would like to add the Sweet 1/144 A6M2 Zero along with the aforementioned Otaki/Arii F-102 kit. Many thanks and cheers....Douglas

"Build what YOU want, the way YOU want, and above all have fun!" - RIP Modeler Al. 

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Posted by cassibill on Monday, December 14, 2009 11:36 AM

More than one kit is certainly allowed.  I think Konigwolf is doing six or seven.  As my grandmother used to say when serving pork loin for dinner, "take two they're small."

cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!!Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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Posted by oldhooker on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:35 PM

Please sign me up, Andrew.  

    I will be entering a 1971 Revell 747-100, which will be built after N7470, the first 747 to fly.      It will be a MID (Mirror Image Display) build and be posed just after lift-off above the speed-blurred runway surface.

   I've already cut the flap positions on the wing and scratchbuilding the flaps, because I didn't know about this GB until Cassie invited me.      

   Thanks,

   Frank

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Posted by cassibill on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:00 PM

I'm a shameless promoter.  If I didn't have so much other stuff started, I'd be tempted to join in myself.

cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!!Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:33 AM

Sorry for the lack of updates people, family and christmas does get in the way of real life hobbies sometimes.

hkshooter, the beast is looking good Yes, nice progress, sorry to hear about the conumdrum its started to present.

For the rest of us 14 and a bit days till offiicial kick off. Cassibill 1- at last count I think I'm down for 11 builds and 2 C'on join the build you know you want to LOL.

While out looking at christmas pressies the missus keeps pushing me to get a stealth fighter, so I did (1/144 scale revell, I just didnt tell her Oops. She also doesnt know shes going to build it Black Eye. I have to help her with her scrapbooking (including setting up and cleaning the airbrush), I figure she can be involved in my hobby.

 

Andrew

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Posted by cassibill on Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:47 PM

Just because I have 36 (actually one is Minicraft's thunderbirds set of 6 f-16s so I guess there are 41) 1/144 kits in stash, doesn't mean I'm tempted to join.

Just because my mom has encouraged me to join a time or three, doesn't mean I'm tempted to join.

Just because my subconscious brought to my attention the fact that TECHNICALLY the Minicraft P-47D bubbletop is one in my "started" pile since I cut the rudder off to offset it and that's it, doesn't mean I'm tempted to join.

Just because I KNOW that Santa bought tools for my stocking, doesn't mean I'm tempted to join. 

Just because I bought the foil for the P-47's NMF, doesn't mean I'm tempted to join. 

Just because I happened to get a 1/48 plan book that included the P-47 last week, doesn't mean I'm tempted to join.

Just because the back of my mind is applying a tarmac to a 4"x4" wood base that is stashed under my , doesn't mean I'm tempted to join.

I will resist.

I will resist.

I will resist.

I will resist.

I will resist.

cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!!Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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Posted by cassibill on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:35 AM

Bump!  I'm resisting.

cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!!Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:24 AM

You know you want toTravel Travel Travel Travel Travel Travel Travel Travel Travel Travel Travel Travel Travel Travel Travel Travel Travel TravelTravel

Still need to think of a badge???

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Posted by hkshooter on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:32 PM

Here's the beast in paint. The tape is to protect edges that get abused while I maneuver the beast around the bench, bumping it into just about everything in the process. Paint has been touched up, repainted, touched up some more, repainted.... you get the picture. 
For anyone thinking of using Press and Seal food wrap for a masking media, don't do it. Trust me.

 

 

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Posted by cassibill on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:14 PM

Nice looking beast hkshooter.  It's just like the one at Dayton.  Never thought of masking the tips that way.  Good to know.

We all know this is how you'll be at some point! Wounded and crazy!

Just because I dug the 'bolt out of underdesk storage at my sister's and brought it home over break, it doesn't mean I'm tempted to join.

Just because I did some digging on the "Amy Lou", it doesn't mean I'm tempted to join.

cdw My life flashes before my eyes and it mostly my life flashing before my eyes!!!Big Smile The 1/144 scale census and message board: http://144scalelist.freewebpage.org/index.html

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:24 PM

Resistance is futile!

Marc  

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Posted by lewbud on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:07 PM

Cassi,

We have cookies, come join us!Smile Burger

HK,

The beast is looking great!

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by STFD637 on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:47 PM

Sounds like a good 1st group build. Something small to hide the mistakes! LOL. Looking at a Helo (MH-60) maybe something else. Will update. Great group build idea.

Travis

"If a lie is told often, and long enough, it becomes reality!"

Travis/STFD637

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Posted by deeve on Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:09 AM

OK shooter.

 

My curiousity has the better of me now. Why should we resist the urge to use press'n'seal as masking media! I have thought of trying this myself!

 

 

Deeve

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