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70th Anniversary Battle of Britain GB - 2010

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Posted by sidure on Thursday, September 2, 2010 1:18 PM

I am behind on some progress pics but work is continuing on the D0-24. First up was the underside  RLM 65

Then came the overall coat of RLM 73 let dry for a few days then it was masked off for the following colour of RLM 72

Of course I broke off a machine gun in the process, never to be seen again. Then last night I got the RLM 72 on and the masks removed

I was not too impressed with the contrast between the two colours. They blend very close together and I was expecting a bigger difference. Going to let it dry for a day or so then I might spray a very highly diluted buff overall for a weathering and blending effect and hope it brings out the two colours better and give it a worn and used effect. I am building this like a biplane doing all the work in subassemblies for easier access to weather and paint then put it all together when done

Steve

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, September 1, 2010 10:57 PM

Thank you for the welcome.  I have repainted both Hurricane undersurfaces (Sky), and spent today making some cutout masks.  Both were painted in the "B" scheme.  I hope to apply the dark earth this weekend, but we are in the process of moving the youngest daughter to college, so this might slow the process.

I have the Spitfire interior and cockpit painted--which is sparse:  a seat and floor; no instruments represented, not even a joystick; but you couldn't see much through the canopy if I did detail it.  There was a hole in the seatback, for a tab attached to the pilot figure, that I filled and sanded--a little tricky where the back and seat came together.  I don't plan to use the pilot.  Now I will need to attach the wings to the fuselage and fill the join seams.

I am looking forward to seeing more of the work produced by this group build too.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Wednesday, September 1, 2010 5:25 AM

Julez72

Checkmate, Welcome Sign to the GB, looking forward to seein some of your workYes

 

Ditto good to see some of the unsung heroes!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Julez72 on Wednesday, September 1, 2010 1:18 AM

Checkmate, Welcome Sign to the GB, looking forward to seein some of your workYes

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:32 PM

Damon- wow the Fulmar looks terrific! Really love the great weathered look you did on the camo.

Checkmate- nice Hurricanes, looking forward to seeing them done.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Saturday, August 28, 2010 4:56 PM

Hi, darson:  it is late "in the day," but I have been admiring the work in this group build for several months--and then I ran across two partially finished Airfix 1/72 Hurricanes I didn't know I had.  It looks like the paint pulled off when I "de-masked" them a couple of years ago, and I put them away and forgot about them.  So, I would like to join up with this group build and finish them finally.  I plan on marking them for 310 Squadron during the battle.

I've also go an Airfix 1/72 Spitfire to do, just started--which I plan to mark for 610 Squadron.

Please sign me up!  Thanks.

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Posted by Julez72 on Saturday, August 28, 2010 4:11 AM

Stik, looking forward to seein some more of your work...Hook into itYes

Sim, thats right your a floatplane fan eh, you should like this one then....I've studied the instructions and parts and even cleaned all the parts up for the office, hopefully i'll shoot some RLM 02 on it tonight and start detail work tomorrow...I think i'll build paint and weather the floats seperatly and join em on just before the final coat...

 

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, August 28, 2010 2:36 AM

Next week on my days off. I work till Monday so my hobby time is minimal for the next few days. I ahd it all placed together jsut to get an idea of the size. Almost to the point where things really start coming together!

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, August 28, 2010 2:25 AM

Stik the Spit is looking great so far!!!Toast Looking forward to more pics!!!

Julez-Eats

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Julez72 on Friday, August 27, 2010 7:16 PM

Hugh, i've cut sprue and hope to have the office done and wip pics up by the end of the weekendToast

 

 

 

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Posted by Clebode on Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:04 PM

Julez--I saw a review of the Italeri AR 196 in the Sept. FSM and thought it looked fantastic.  Please build one so I can see how it goes.

Stickpusher--Very nice precise work.  Keep the pictures coming.

Damon---Love the finished Fulmar. 

Well, I got a note from the postman that I think means the pit for my DO 17Z is here from Eduard.  They emailed that it shipped on 8/9!!!  Vacation time in Europe?  I will be starting it as soon as I finish the D-13 in RD III GB.

Hugh

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Posted by B17Pilot on Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:50 PM

Hey Ya'll, had a minor set back.  While attaching the rear struts to the tail plane, I broke one and half and one piece was eaten by the carpet monster.  Well, I took a 40% off coupon to Hobby Lobby and found another 109E and made a copy of the strut.  Got the replacement in place and it needs a coat of paint.  Next will come a coat of Future and then decals.

  

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, August 26, 2010 6:13 PM

More progress made today. I was able to create most of the gear wells with sheet styrene. It now looks much better. I just need to create one inner structure on each well. I also was able to get the fuselage seam sanded smooth (I glued the rear portion last night later in the evening) and replaced the lost detail from sanding. I am not sure if I will try to use some streteched sprue to replicate the raised rivets where needed or just stick with the divits I drilled.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Julez72 on Thursday, August 26, 2010 4:12 AM

simpilot34

I wouldn't see why not. You have confirmed that at least a month before the end of the BoB that they were used in theatre. I'm sure if you sweet talk Darren he won't mind, or twist his arm hehe.

Yeah i think i'll go ahead and build it, havn't heard from Darren in a bit....I'm sure he won't mind....

Stik, nice looking work on he Spit mate, very coolYes

 

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:26 PM

Beautiful Fulmar Nomad!Yes

I made more progress on my Spit today. I built up a compass for the Instrument Panel and atttached it. I can paint it tomorrow and add a decal for the face.

I also completed painting the control column, engine exhausts, and added a wash in the cockpit sidewalls. The seat I painted a week or two ago in some stippled brown shades to give an approximation of Bakelite plastic

Once the wash had dried and I did some touch up highlights, I glued the forward fuselage together with the engine in place. The rear is still loose so that I can install the tail wheel after some touching up to the construction. I put the engine access panels on for the pics but they still need to be modified to fit snugly.

While the front fuselage was glued together, I installed the wing intercooler and scratchbuilt an oil cooler out of some sprue and brass screen. Once the wing is all together one will have to look hard to see it, but like the radio and radio shelf I added deep in the fuselage I know it's there.Geeked

Next I need to work on detailing up the landing gear wells. She is starting to take shape now.Wink

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:29 PM

I wouldn't see why not. You have confirmed that at least a month before the end of the BoB that they were used in theatre. I'm sure if you sweet talk Darren he won't mind, or twist his arm hehe.

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Julez72 on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 5:02 AM

Hey Sim i think i might have a winner...Information is a pretty sparse but i've cobbled this together from 4 different sites.....

5th BFGr 196 were moved from Trondheim to Cherbourg during Sept 1940 and remained there until April 1941...they were tasked with ASW, ASR and Recon duties....

The two that were shot down were shot down in Feb 1941, one off the coast of Cornwall (6W-ON) by a Whirlwind and the other (6W-EN) in the Channel by a Hurricane...Another (Wkr.no 012) was lost off the channel island Alderney in Dec 1940

The GB guideline says end date for the BoB is 31st OCT 1940 but it's obvious the AR 196 operated in the channel for at least a month before the end date....

What do you think, is it too thin or an acceptable entrant for this GB? Do you reckon Darren would go for it???

 

 

 

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Posted by Julez72 on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 3:04 AM

Thanks Sim, it does seem to make sense that they were used hey...I'll keep digging as well...

 

 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:55 PM

Julez I had a quick stickybeek and found this bit of info. No unit info...yet. I didn't know they were used in the BoB till you asked, but would make sense as they were also used as Search and Rescue duties. Will try and sus out more later.

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=JZ9cSQNeK9cC&pg=PA374&lpg=PA374&dq=Arado+Ar-196+in+battle+of+britain&source=bl&ots=hwEgpRag1g&sig=hXg7BeHP7vpR3WtvqDd02mUZAl8&hl=en&ei=koN0TOiXIpC9ccnPyf4F&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CDoQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Arado%20Ar-196%20in%20battle%20of%20britain&f=false

HTH a bit!Yes

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Julez72 on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:20 AM

Hey Sim, your a man who's in the know, so if i can pick your brain...I'm trying to find any info i can about Arado AR196 operations during the Battle of Britain....I came across a reference that said a pair of them were shot down by Raf fighters but i can't seem to find anything concrete....Any ideas??

 

 

 

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Posted by Julez72 on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:51 AM

Damon. Outstanding build buddy very well doneYesYesYes It was very cool watching it come together, cheersToast

 

 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Monday, August 23, 2010 10:09 PM

Damon, that looks absolutely stunning mate!!!! WELL DONE!!!ToastBow Down Something that would look nice on a fture build would be some very shallow depressions sanded into the leading edges where the gunports are covered by the red doped fabric.

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by nomad68 on Monday, August 23, 2010 9:53 PM

darson I am done with my two builds the airfix anson and the Fairey Fulmar. Thank You for hosting this great GB and I will join the next one Big Smile

B17pilot nice job on the 109

Sidure Love the D024 cant wait to see it put together Yes

Damon

 

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Posted by Julez72 on Monday, August 23, 2010 9:05 AM

Darren, PM sent...

 

 

 

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Posted by soulcrusher on Saturday, August 21, 2010 9:56 PM

stikpusher

 soulcrusher:

It is a great read and I loved every minute of the book. It does have alot of very detailed info in it. It might have the info on what plane he flew that day but I am very confident that the plane would have carried the squadron code XR. Here is a picture on the plane. Tobin is the pilot to the far left in the picture. also of intrest in the picture is the amout paint worn of the wing roots. I have not seen many photos of RAF aircraft with this amount of paint worn of the wings.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q133/Stinkey1/img022.jpg

SoulcrusherPirate

 

 

Yes, when Tobin and the other Yanks were assigned to 71 Squadron, they had Hurricanes that were coded XR. But his first assignment was 609 Squadron with Spitfires that were coded PR. The three Americans in 609 were among the first to be sent to 71 in late September. (I learned all this from hours of web searching a few nights back.) That is a great pic BTW!

I thought you might like the pic! I read the book about a year ago so I have forgotten alot of the details of the story but it is one of the best book on any subject that I have read in a while. There is one picture of a Spitfire in the book. I'll see if I can post it up.

SoulcrusherPirate

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, August 21, 2010 1:02 AM

soulcrusher

It is a great read and I loved every minute of the book. It does have alot of very detailed info in it. It might have the info on what plane he flew that day but I am very confident that the plane would have carried the squadron code XR. Here is a picture on the plane. Tobin is the pilot to the far left in the picture. also of intrest in the picture is the amout paint worn of the wing roots. I have not seen many photos of RAF aircraft with this amount of paint worn of the wings.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q133/Stinkey1/img022.jpg

SoulcrusherPirate

 

Yes, when Tobin and the other Yanks were assigned to 71 Squadron, they had Hurricanes that were coded XR. But his first assignment was 609 Squadron with Spitfires that were coded PR. The three Americans in 609 were among the first to be sent to 71 in late September. (I learned all this from hours of web searching a few nights back.) That is a great pic BTW!

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Julez72 on Friday, August 20, 2010 7:19 PM

Yeah Eat it must have been a scary time to be an Englishman back then...The germans must have seemed unstoppable in 1940.....I recall an interveiw with an RAF pilot i think it was Geoff Page and he spoke of his first combat..."suddenly we saw them, a mass of ants with wings...Our leader took us just above the 110's and we dived, i closed my eyes and fired"...Imagine being in that situation, 12 Spits taking on 100+....

 

 

 

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Posted by eatthis on Friday, August 20, 2010 5:38 PM

70 years to the day since churchills famous so much owed by so many to so few speach! makes me proud to be english for a change

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 20, 2010 1:17 PM

Wow, great looking stuff all around guys!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by soulcrusher on Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:50 PM

stikpusher

Thanks Soulcrusher. I spent quite a bit of time last night doing web searches on Tobin and 609 Squadron. That book came up frequently. I would love to find it and read it. I was able to confirm that he flew Spitfire K9997 for the September 15th combat where he got the Do-17. It was damaged upon landing when a fuel truck drove across his path as he was landing and clipped his landing gear and was out of service for the rest of the day. Now to find that aircraft's code letter...Hmm

It is a great read and I loved every minute of the book. It does have alot of very detailed info in it. It might have the info on what plane he flew that day but I am very confident that the plane would have carried the squadron code XR. Here is a picture on the plane. Tobin is the pilot to the far left in the picture. also of intrest in the picture is the amout paint worn of the wing roots. I have not seen many photos of RAF aircraft with this amount of paint worn of the wings.

SoulcrusherPirate

 

 

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