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Before They Were Aces-The First Aircraft of the Aces

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, February 22, 2010 1:16 AM

After JEaton's comment, I've been looking for a 1/48 prone figure to mount on the wing.  No luck.  If anyone has suggestions, let me know.

Don

If you have a set lying around, the figures in the Monogram B-17, B-24, and P-61 have a couple of good candidates.... He doesn't have to be lying down either, plenty of them rode the wing sitting... But, the "Crawling" P-61 mech can be turned into a prone figure fairly easily, and the B-17/B-24 mech that's sitting, holding a wrench in his right hand will do as well..

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  • From: Spring Branch, TX
Posted by satch_ip on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:33 AM

Boyington's AVG P-40 is comming along.  I found some nifty vinyl paint masks from Gator at the San Antonio show this weekend.  They had the P-40 as well as both A and B Spitfire schemes.  Kinda pricy at $10 per but I was in a buying frenzy. 

Attempted to drill out the solid Monogram exhaust stacks.

Really basic kit but fits well and is accurate.  Not everything has to be super detailed.

The masks

The reference American Volunteer Group Colours and Markings by Terrill Clements.

Well i'm off to the cold garage to lay down the Green.

Satch

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:03 PM

Satch_ip Lookin good !! Those exhaust tubes are hard to drill out and get the drill centered. You did lots better than I did I tell ya, had to cheat and use my exacto knife and even mine up a bit. Your camo looks really good too so hurry up I wanna see more of your build.

 Thats the Revell P-40B/C right ?

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:00 PM

Well on the way... Drilling those stacks is a necessary evil, I'll agree, but ya gotta do it... They're just too obvious...  Yer braver than I am by putting those antennae wires in place before you're almost finished... If I did that, I'd be reatteching them over & over...

On a sie note, I wonder how many pilots ever got clothes-lined by 'em on a night scramble...

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:08 PM

Hans von Hammer

On a sie note, I wonder how many pilots ever got clothes-lined by 'em on a night scramble...

Hans my guess ( for what it's worth) would be a suprising number of pilots and ground crew found those wires at an inoppertune time.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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  • From: Spring Branch, TX
Posted by satch_ip on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:21 PM

Hans von Hammer

Well on the way... Drilling those stacks is a necessary evil, I'll agree, but ya gotta do it... They're just too obvious...  Yer braver than I am by putting those antennae wires in place before you're almost finished... If I did that, I'd be reattaching them over & over...

On a sie note, I wonder how many pilots ever got clothes-lined by 'em on a night scramble...

Ah Hans, your eyes must be going.  That last picture was of the reference book for the scheme.  No wires yet.  Over all I'm happy with the masks.  I painted the green and peeled them off and reattached them to the vinyl mat.   I think I will be able to reuse them for the Academy P-40C.  Yes this is the Monogram B model.

The brown is a little too dark so I will be toning it down with pastels.  As far as updates, you'll have to wait another week or so.  I'm off to work again.

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  • From: Louisville, KY
Posted by pordoi on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:09 PM

Wow, I leave town for a few days and there's a flurry of activity.  Thanks to all that suggested figures for the P-47 "wing" man.  I'll look into them and see what I can do.

 

Hey Satch, great job on the P-40.  I hate drilling those fiddly bits like exhausts, etc.  When I'm forced to, I take a pin and punch a small hole in the center to give the drill bit something to bite on.  Then, it's just a matter of drilling straight and true which also isn't the easiest thing in the world to do, at least for me.  But as Hans said, it needed to be done.  good job.  I never knew that one could find commercial masks for camo like this.  Really cool. 

The top views of the P-40 always remine me of Jimmy Durante... what a schnozz!!!

Don

 

 

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  • From: Crawfordsville, Indiana
Posted by Wabashwheels on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:22 PM

I've done about all the damage I can do to Gentile's Spitfire.  I finally got up the nerve to attach the antenna wire.  I think this is the first one I've ever done.  I used fishing line, but in the future I'm going to locate some lycra thread.  I'd like to get a tighter look.   I took these shots out of my attic/workshop window sitting on an old display base I had sitting around.

I picked up a Tamiya, British utility car a few weeks ago, and put it together this week.  It is a typical easy Tamiya build.  It is a little sparce on the interior, but I intended it for decoration in these photos of the Spitfire.  I set up a flight preparation shot and then a shot of Gentile himself climbing in or out of the truck, I'm not sure.

Oh, what the heck.  I've also got a picture of a pilot (in USAAF garb) posing with the nose art.

 

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:52 PM

Good work, it has the well used look.  I use E Z Line for the antennas, it will draw tight without too much tension.  Had the same trouble with fishing line.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:51 AM

Well done on the Spitfire! 

Personally, I'm a stretched-sprue guy, so my antenna wires are usually made from that inexhaustable material...  The wires are insulated, so any dark color is ok..  Also, since I ain't had a haircut in 5 years, I can use one from my head as well.. CA readily sticks and holds it better than it does with styrene...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:09 AM

BTW, those that have reached what they feel is 90% complete or better, feel free to add the Build Badge to your signature...

I'm going to finish the diorama build-log in the Dirorama Forum.

 

Also, if any of want to start on another one, go ahead.. There's no limit and I'll come up with a "device" (like an Oak Leaf or something) to show that you've completed two or more builds.. OR, if anyone wants suggest something else to denote that accomplishment, sound off... Maybe a different background color on the original badge or something..

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  • From: Spring Branch, TX
Posted by satch_ip on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:57 PM

You could add kill markings on the bottom right corner of the Gabby picture.

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, February 27, 2010 12:25 PM

Not a bad idea... Everyone could use their Paint Program to add their own personal "Kill" marks to the Badge...

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, February 27, 2010 3:38 PM

Here's what I did.  I added 3 "mission marks" using the paintbrush in MS Paint.

This badge would signify 4 builds, the first being badge, each "bomb" an addtional kit...

 

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  • From: Crawfordsville, Indiana
Posted by Wabashwheels on Wednesday, March 3, 2010 11:38 AM

Hans, I stumbled on to another"Before he was an Ace" aircraft.  I wanted to do a P47 Razorback and just so happened to do Louis "Red" Norley's RED DOG.  I posted the engine on your Gismology thread a couple weeks ago.  After a little research this morning, I found that he scored 2 1/3 kills in his Thunderbolt before transitioning to P51's and finishing with 11 1/2 kills.  So if its OK I'll do his P47C in a Hasegawa kit.   Rick

 

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, March 4, 2010 5:57 AM

Great job!  Told ya reasearch was fun..

Go for that first bomb on your badge......

 

BTW, I ordered the transfers to get the numbers and name on "Old Crow"..

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  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Thursday, March 4, 2010 6:02 AM

NOTE TO THIS GB'S MEMBERS:

CHeck the roster on Page One and make sure I still have your info right... If it ain't ,tell me ASAP..

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  • From: Louisville, KY
Posted by pordoi on Sunday, March 7, 2010 6:02 PM

Hans,

 

I'm not  on the list with Kearby's Fiery Ginger. 

Don

 

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Posted by Wabashwheels on Monday, March 8, 2010 8:31 AM

...And a beaut that Ginger is!  Rick

 

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Posted by pordoi on Tuesday, March 9, 2010 6:29 PM

Thanks, Wabash.  Thinking about doing a second for this GB.  Gotta do a little research and see what looks interesting.

Don 

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  • From: Spring Branch, TX
Posted by satch_ip on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:19 AM

Boyington's AVG P-40 is done.  Please excuse the poor Iphone pics but I left my camera in NY.  Build was straight out of the box with EagleCal decals.

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Posted by Wabashwheels on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:48 AM

Satch, the P-40 looks great.  The camo looks terrific.  The combination of a cell phone photo and my eyesight make it look like a soft edge camo.  I'm anxious to see it all dolled up in HD mode.

Don, Like Hans mentioned, this has been fun.  Go for another build!  I mentioned a week ago that I stumbled on Red Norley's "Red Dog" P47-C, which I'm nearing completion.  If you didn't know I've always been a Don Gentile fan and built his Eagle Squadron Spitfire.  Since starting Norley's P47, I came across Gentile's markings for "Donnie Boy", his P47 ride before becoming an ace in "Shangri La". If I can get a move on, I'll try to build "Donnie Boy" for this GB also..   We can't let Hans have all the fun!  Rick

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:51 AM

Satch that looks GREAT!!!! Been wanting to do Pappy's P-40!!! Read Blacksheep One book awhile back and thought it would be a good build. Got to see Pappy himself at the '85 Reno Air Races, unfortunately didn't get an autograph though.Boo Hoo

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:42 PM

Colonel-

Here's what I have been able to come up with so far.

A rendering of P-38J "Scat II".

A photo of Major (?) Robin Olds, in a P-51, more or less during WW2.

A photo of Olds with a P-38.

My model that I picked up at Ace Hardware during their "fits in a bag, it's 20% off" sale.

I'm going to start her tonight. It looks to be mostly a build, then paint type of deal.

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  • From: USA California
Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:36 PM

Satch nice job on the Revell P-40 looks great !!! I can tell ya that sharkmouth decal drove me crazy on the last one I did. You handled it very well. Pics aren't too bad either for a phone camera. YesYes

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by simpilot34 on Thursday, March 11, 2010 6:55 PM

Bill Looking forward to seeing your Oldsmobuild!!! (<sorry had to do it)Propeller When we lived in California in the '80's, my brother was in the Air Force Reserves and went TDY to Homestead Air Force Base in Florida. He got to see Robin Olds 'C' model Phantom still in service. It was autographed and still wore the kill marks.

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, March 13, 2010 6:33 AM

pordoi

Hans,

 

I'm not  on the list with Kearby's Fiery Ginger. 

Don

 

Done, Don... Sorry 'bout that oversight..

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, April 1, 2010 6:29 PM

Hans von Hammer Sir we cant have this group back on page 2 so I want to let all you know I got decals for Arval Roberson's P-51 a couple days ago, found them on evilbay. There are also enough on the sheet that I will be able to build his P-51D also, cool huh. Now being a Revell fan, Hans I have a tough decision to make at this time. You see I have a Tamiya kit for this build, however I got my mits on Revells retooled P-51B/C kit #85-5256 with all those nice recessed panel lines and added detail so what to do, which one do I build now. Confused

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, April 2, 2010 6:38 AM

Well, I've always been partial to the B/C Ponies, especially if they have the Malcolm hood...

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, April 2, 2010 10:08 AM

Hans they are both P-51B/C models but I have to admit I am leaning heavily towards the Revell kit instead of the Tamiya offering. For me I like the sleekness of the standard canopy, to my eye the Malcolm hood makes the 51 look  a bit bulky if thats even possible.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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