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Posted by Julez72 on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:23 AM

Owl, very cool scheme... The invasion stripes are well done, congrats on your first NMFYesYesYes

Aggieman, looking forward to seein the finished productYes BTW luv the Arado in your sigToast

 

 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 2:33 AM

OWL, What an awesome finish!!!!! Lovely work!!!! Well Done!!!Toast

Richard, THANK YOU!!!!! That link is great!!!!! I quickly downloaded several of the files hehe!!!

Steve, nice work on the voids!! I feel the same way bout them.

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by kermit on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:35 AM

Owl,

Congrats mylady! You have chosen a very interesting paintscheme. Loved itWink Oh and does my eye spot the decals for Miss MarilynII on there? *wink wink*. Great job all around. My first planes looked far FAR worse LOL.

Aggieman,

Great scratching and good solution!

Simpilot,

Youre welcome my friend. A few months ago i was very in to custom decals for awhile and remembered that the flightsim people had the exact same problems regarding insignia and markings with their skin painting that we modellers have. Some subsequent googling revealed that website. A gem innit?Big Smile

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 6:44 AM

Thanks everybody!  That mustang was fighting me all throughout he painting stages. Im glad she came out so nice!

vetteman: I would like to try out this foil business I keep hearing about. Smile  I am moving back to the dorms Friday evening, so I wont be having a lot of sustained-building time.  But I think I can do a little bit everyday... I ordered the foil adhesive yesterday.

Take off the B-47 please. I dont think I can build such a large plane right now (we are going to be moving sometime later this year)  But can you add a MiG-21? Propeller 

OWL

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Posted by vetteman42 on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:46 PM

CallSignOwl  I have updated the front page with you build, but I am not really sure what paint you used for the NMF. Could you let me know what they were please.

Also I couldn't be happier you are going to do another build with us and foil too Yeah Just let me know what scale and kit the MiG is so I can post the right info on the builders roster. Looking forward to your MiG

Guys I havent been able to get into the mancave these last couple of days, actually it was way too hot out there today. So in the morning I will get some pictures of my Talon paint trials for you to take a look at. Gotta get that AT-6 going I want to paint it now Stick out tongue

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:29 AM

Oops sorry, Vetteman

For the mustang I used a combination of MM Acrylics and  MM Enamel for the NMF.

The MiG-21, will be an OEZ (?) kit in 1/48 scale.   Smile

OWL

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:03 AM

Owl- your pony looks fantastic! I love the white trim on the spinner, wing-tips, etc. It really sets off the invasion stripes.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Aggieman on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:04 PM

I got the Peacemaker largely completed with all the wing parts attached and the stabilizers attached as well.  When I put on the outboard jet engine pylons, there was a huge gap at the attaching point - ack!  I spent an hour or so last night dealing with those gaps and I think I did a decent job of blending my filler to make it appear to be continuous part.  In the next day or so I'll begin dealing with the seams along that huge leading edge on the wings, as well as the fairly minimal gap along the underside wing root connections.  Then it's on to the canopy frames.  Still not sure how I'm going to attack that, but have considered putting foil over the framing. 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:42 AM

kermit

Vetteman, can't wait to see the results you get with the Talon paints! You sure know how to get a dutch froggy on the edge of his seatBig Smile But seriously...... citrus smell??

Richard

Kermit I aint kidding ya one bit buddy Angel it does have a citrus smell to it, rather pleasant really. I thought it quite funny when my sister asked why I had been using the air freshener in the mancave Surprise. Also when I cleaned out the paint cup and air brush, the stuff cleaned up so fast and easily that it kind scared me, thought I missed something.

Anyway here is a picture of my little paint test, errr paint play Stick out tongue tests arent fun ya know.

These are gear doors for a Testors F-5. If you will notice the second door from the right I polished a bit with the powder applied and buffed with a q-tip. It polished up really quickly too less than 30 seconds is all that took. Also as you can see I wasn't all that careful in the surface prep on these parts, any boo boos show up like a sore thumb.

Julez72 your P-51 #3 build will be posted on the front page shortly, cant wait to see this one. Oh and yeah I think NMF can be somewhat addicting. Glad to have you back with us. Toast

CallSignOwl I will be correcting your builds and info shortly thanks for giving me the info.

Oh Oh and someone said something about being close to finished with a big ole 4 motor bomber and went and got me all excited when I saw my email an an I rushed in here and no pictures Huh? geeze

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:59 AM

Owl -- may I say how well your Mustang came out! NMF plus invasion stripes is widely recognised as a technically challenging paintjob and it was very ambitious to attempt. I've been in the hobby more than 40 years and never attempted it yet! Well done!

I'll be most interested to see the OEZ MiG-21 go together, I've had its stablemate, their Su-7 in my stash for many years, and remember reviewers saying the -21 was the first quarter-scale kit that properly captured the -21's 'aggressive stance.'  She should be a good build!

Cheers from Down Under, Mike/TB379

PS: Randy, you're whetting my appetite to try Talons again, I have the paint and powder but never got around to trying them on more than a single experiment whose experience was so radically unlike anything I'd used before that I shelved them and never got round to trying them again...

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Posted by Julez72 on Thursday, August 19, 2010 4:55 AM

Randy, very interesting watching how well these talon paints work, keep the pics comingYes I'm also trying out a new paint on Mustang 3, MM aluminum plate buffing metalizer...I've tested it out on my test model and it looks very nice so hopefully it will come out nice on the Pony...

 

 

 

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:36 AM

Thunderbolt379: It is good to hear that this MIG-21 kit has a positive review. I got it at a vendors table for 5$!!   

OWL

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:15 AM

Hi Owl -- $5?! You got a bargain! When it shows up on eBay, as it does from time to time (infrequently!), it usually commands about four times that!

My huge resin bomber is starting to come together -- as it happens, it'll mostly be NMF too!

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Thursday, August 19, 2010 5:25 PM

Just giving you all a heads up that if you don't see me for a while, it is because I am moving back to College and getting ready for classes to begin. For those of you who saw my Fulcrum build...I will again be building in my dorm room!  Wink

So thank you all for your support and helpful comments. I will be lurking around, never fear! I hope to have things settled down quickly  so I can start on my first foiling project! Propeller

OWL

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:38 PM

CallSignOWL

Just giving you all a heads up that if you don't see me for a while, it is because I am moving back to College and getting ready for classes to begin. For those of you who saw my Fulcrum build...I will again be building in my dorm room!  Wink

Wow, talk about dedication! I couldn't begin to fathom building a model in a dorm room!

Best of luck moving back and kicking off the new academic year.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, August 20, 2010 6:02 AM

DoogsATX

Wow, talk about dedication! I couldn't begin to fathom building a model in a dorm room!

Best of luck moving back and kicking off the new academic year.

Ditto Looking forward to your next post letting us know you arrived safely!Angel

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by kermit on Friday, August 20, 2010 10:27 AM

Vetteman,

Thank you for sharing your experiences with the talon paint. Looks great to me!Wink Is it a bit of a darker shade NMF or is it the lighting? Whatever it is, it looks very lifelike. Hoping to order myself some alclads next week....

OWL,

Hope the moving goes smoothlySmile You must have a great roommate too if he/ she is cool with you working on your hobby inthere. My own better half does support me although she hates the smell when i use enamels...

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, August 20, 2010 10:47 AM

So with the Dauntless stalled out thanks to the USPS taking its sweet time with my Mr Surfacer 1200 (and Talon Aluminum!), I went ahead and cracked open and cleaned the Wildcat kits last night. 

Have to say, I'm very impressed with the overall level of detail. The AM Dauntless has a pretty strong reputation for detail, but IMO it pales next to this. And after my experience with the Dauntless' ridiculous three-piece cowl, I'm loving that these use a single piece instead.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by kermit on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:27 AM

Doog,

Yes, the hobby boss f4f's are real gems, i've built the FM1, F4F late and F4F early kits now and they are really easy to build, great result in the end kinda kits; especially considering their price. Gonna build their F5F kit for the Alley cat GB and pretty sure it will be just as nice to build...Smile

One word of warning though:

You will find that the instructions want you to glue the pit to the bottom fuselage bit. Every single time i built it, the headrest bit wouldn't align with the top fuselage! Concentrate on that join and you'll be ok. After that you might find that the pit works will block the wings from sliding into the fuselage but a slice or two with your knife will solve that easily.

Also the bottom fuselage part might be a bit tricky to align with the two main fuselage parts. A tiny bit of filling and sanding might come your way there.

All in all one of the more fun kits i ever built and i am very sure you will love working with them.Toast Any idea yet what finishes you will use?

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, August 20, 2010 1:10 PM

Thanks for the build tips, kermit! Always nice to know those sort of things going in. 

As for finishes, I'm going to do one in Talon Aluminum and the other in Alclad II something-or-other. Maybe aluminum, maybe airframe aluminum. I've got a couple different bottles on the shelf, so we'll see.

The rest of the finish is going to be a mix. Tamiya Lemon Yellow + a bit of orange for the wings and yellow fuselage bands. Tamiya or Vallejo gloss black for the letter markings and wing and fuselage stripe borders.

The tails, stabs and wing stripes are going to be different on each plane. The boy's is going to be Tamiya gloss blue, and the girl's is going to be pink darkened with a bit of red (since Tamiya's pink seems really light). Probably the first and last time I will ever buy a bottle of pink paint!

As an aside, when we were gearing up before our son was born, my wife was dead against blue anything. It was all greens and yellows since she didn't want to follow the traditional color/gender thing. But when our daughter came along, it was a like pink exploded in our house. Go figure...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, August 20, 2010 1:10 PM

Looking forward to seeing the F4F come together Doog. Don't think I mentioned that Richard go to me too. At a hobby show last week I picked up the HobbyBoss F4F-4. No idea when I'll be able to get to it though but yes it does look like a really nice quality kit.

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, August 20, 2010 1:23 PM

Gamera

Looking forward to seeing the F4F come together Doog. Don't think I mentioned that Richard go to me too. At a hobby show last week I picked up the HobbyBoss F4F-4. No idea when I'll be able to get to it though but yes it does look like a really nice quality kit.

Yeah, I definitely want to build their -4 or FM-1, but I'm not even going to think about it until I get around to the Eduard F6F-3 sulking in my stash. 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, August 20, 2010 2:18 PM

CallSignOwl hope you arrive at collage with no troubles, let us know when you get there.

Kermit I comapired the Talon aluminum to MM aluminum plate metalizer and the shades are very close, so it has to be my expert photografy skills. I painted the belly scoop for a MiG -3 with the Talon and had to scrape some of the paint away for some PE detail, and let me tell ya it didnt scrape off easily at all. So I am thinking masking over Talon paint wont be much trouble with lifting. I finally had to resort to alcohol to get the paint off. We will see with the AT-6.

DoogsATX  Eats ohhhh I can't wait for your builds. The kit or kits look to be very nice, Richard had a blast with his.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Julez72 on Friday, August 20, 2010 7:24 PM

Yeah these bloody Yellow Wings are getting to me, while i'm not much of a Wildcat fan i am eyeing of a Buffalo at the LHS with NMF fueselage and yellow wings, it also has those red/white tail feathers i like so mch...

 

 

 

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Posted by jmabx on Friday, August 20, 2010 7:30 PM

 

OWL - Nice work on the P-51! Can't wait for the MiG! Yes

Randy - That Talon paint looks pretty darn good!

Doogs - It will be a treat to see another yellow wing in this group build! Beer

I haven't done much on the Airacomet lately. I've glued the wings together but that is of no real interest. Wink  I decided to busy up the forward gear bay a little with some plastic scraps and a little wire. It was rather dull before.

The aluminum paint gave it a... well... blah appearance but hopefully a dark wash will help with that.

Now I can proceed with gluing the forward half of the fuselage together. Yay! Big Smile

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, August 20, 2010 8:18 PM

Julez72

Yeah these bloody Yellow Wings are getting to me, while i'm not much of a Wildcat fan i am eyeing of a Buffalo at the LHS with NMF fueselage and yellow wings, it also has those red/white tail feathers i like so mch...

Go for it! 

Personally I wish the Navy had kept the yellow wings around, maybe as a ceremonial paint scheme or something. It would've been very cool to see a Corsair (or hell, a Tomcat) sporting the scheme!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by Julez72 on Friday, August 20, 2010 11:00 PM

DoogsATX

 

 Julez72:

 

Yeah these bloody Yellow Wings are getting to me, while i'm not much of a Wildcat fan i am eyeing of a Buffalo at the LHS with NMF fueselage and yellow wings, it also has those red/white tail feathers i like so mch...

 

 

Go for it! 

Personally I wish the Navy had kept the yellow wings around, maybe as a ceremonial paint scheme or something. It would've been very cool to see a Corsair (or hell, a Tomcat) sporting the scheme!

I couldn't agree with you more ATX, some of the nicest looking schemes i've ever seen are on prewar US aircraft...I probably will do the Buffalo, this is a long GB and i like the little Tamiya 1/48 fighters for quick builds inbetween larger projects.....

Randy, Hey i've had a change of plans with the Mirage 111 for this GB....Thanks to Frank starting the Hornets nest GB i've sorta been given the opportunity to do a history in scale of the RAAFs 75squadron so i going to paint the Mirage in the grey/green scheme instead of NMF....on the other hand to do 75 squadron i'll need an Avon Sabre so can you please add a Highplanes conversion kit for an Avon Sabre in 48 scale...Thanks buddy....

oh yeahan Avon Sabre...note the differences in the fueselage and armament from the F86 and the black and white chequers and top hat motiff of 75sqd

 

 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, August 21, 2010 12:28 AM

Looking forward to all the work being planned guys and the pics!!!!Toast

Beautiful pic of the sabre mike!!!! For those glaring at the pipe running along the port fuse, that is not standard equipment, that is the pipe for the smoke system. Got to have an up close look at her when Point Cook had their last Air Pageant. They had it parked in front of the hangar next to us.Eats

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Saturday, August 21, 2010 12:38 AM

Julez -- I have some detail closeups of the Sabre at Fast Jets Fighter Museum here in Adelaide, I don't recall if she's an Avon Sabre but much of the engineering should be in common with other types -- I'd be delighted to post some shots to assist.

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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Posted by Julez72 on Saturday, August 21, 2010 3:32 AM

By all means post em up, any pictures i can get i'll gladly accept...especially the undercarriage and that pipe that Sim mentioned....Cheers JulesYesToast

 

 

 

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