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  • From: Nebraska, USA
Posted by CallSignOWL on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:10 PM

Aggieman: "...the City of Houston shuts down at the mere mention of ice on the roads..."

phhbt!!  pansies!!!  Smile

I live in freakin' Nebraska, where we can see all 4 seasons in a week!   We still have to go to go to school even with a foot or more of snow on the ground, in sub-freaking-zero temperatures!  And don't get me started on the wind-chills!  Wink

OWL

p.s.  go huskers!  :P

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Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:08 PM

In fairness, the rare ice that we manage to get in Texas is exactly that - ice. Not snow, not slush. Ice. I used to drive an old Land Rover with 4WD, a center differential, pneumatic locking differentials in both axles, and a geared transfer case (ah, the old offroading days), and even that thing would turn into Bambi on an iced Texas road. When you consider the prevalence of pickups down here, with all the power going to the rear wheels, and very little weight holding them down to the road, yeah, ice is usually disastrous.

Of course this past winter we randomly got some actual snow, and Dallas got something like eight inches of it I believe.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:52 PM

yeah, ice storms stink. My brother had to trade in his pickup for a car with 4-wheel drive. That truck was pretty much useless in the winter...come to think of it, my car is pretty useless too. But considering we got it for $500, it has done pretty well over the years.

honestly, I prefer (a Nebraskan) fall and spring. Those seasons have the best temperatures I think.

for you guys working in the garages, good luck and remember to drink plenty of water! Toast

OWL

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Posted by kermit on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 2:20 PM

OMG,

You poor sods...

Were down to 65-70-ish temperatures here again.... in fact, tonight the forecast says 5 inches of rain to fall the next 24 hours; just as much as the average august month.... Courtesy of the fact that i live just about a 20 minute bike ride to the north sea....Confused

Seriously, i envy you guys. I experienced 100 degree weather overthere and it is not nearly as humid as here. Would give anything to have another week of USA summer....

Then again, i have the convenience of an entire attic as mancave complete with fans and the privacy to be able to take my shirt off on a hot modelling dayBig Smile My better half seems to enjoy it LOL.

Just whining....Propeller

Richard

P.s GO family guy!!Whistling

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Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 2:35 PM

kermit

Seriously, i envy you guys. I experienced 100 degree weather overthere and it is not nearly as humid as here. Would give anything to have another week of USA summer....

Where at? 100 degrees isn't the same everywhere.

In my experience, Austin's pretty bad, humidity-wise, but we've got nothing on Houston, which in turn has nothing on the deep South. 

Thing that gets you in Texas, though, is the relentlessness of it all. I can take 100 degrees for a couple of days, maybe a week. But when it drags into its third month, ugh.

Thankfully, we got off easy this summer, with a really rainy July. But August has still be an oven.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

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Posted by Aggieman on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:38 PM

phhbt!!  pansies!!!  Smile

Fightin' words if I ever read 'em.  Your Huskers are coming to Texas this season.  You guys probably have your game against those commies from Austin circled but the one you should really be worried about is the game in College Station.  The Ags are improving and many believe this is the year they'll return to relevance in college football.  But unlike Austin, you'll be treated with courtesy and respect in Aggieland, even invited to share in a beer (or four) with the various tailgaters.

Ice is no fun.  We rarely get really cold weather, but as Doogs said, Dallas did get a relative avalanche this past winter.  Heck, even here in Houston we got some snow (and I have the photos to prove it).  Shoot, we even got a snow day at work.  Actually a snow afternoon, but who's quibbling?

Humidity is the big deal in Houston.  It may say 100 on the thermometer but you gotta add the humidity to that number. 

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Posted by Julez72 on Thursday, August 26, 2010 7:11 AM

Sounds pretty hot over there in Texas at the moment...I'ts still winter here in Oz so i won't be whining about 100+ temps until about Jan/Feb....I do feel for ya Guys, 100F with 80/90 humidity sucks the energy right out of you....

 

 

 

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Posted by NiceFit on Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:12 AM

Question: I'm putting the canopy on the AT-6 Texan but it's not a nice fit. What do you use to fill the seam between the canopy and fuselage that you feel works really well (i.e., quick n' easy). I've tried white glue, Testor's Contour Putty, and Bondo on various builds. Obviously, great care needs to be taken applying and sanding (if necessary) since the canopy's mask is so close to the seam. How do you get those great canopy-to-fuselage finishes? Inquiring minds want to know...

Respectfully, Dobby

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:38 AM

How about Testors Clear Parts Cement/Window Maker?

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

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Posted by NiceFit on Thursday, August 26, 2010 11:35 AM

DoogsATX

How about Testors Clear Parts Cement/Window Maker?

doogs: Yes, I have tried it. It's very runny. Putty, on the other hand, is thick and requires sanding. My plan is to go with the Clear Parts Cement (several applications of it) unless someone has another technique. 

Respectfully, Dobby

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Posted by IBuild148 on Friday, August 27, 2010 10:31 PM

Well I have finished the cockpit, cemented the fuselage halves, and engine cowl.

This is my second build of 2 in this GB. It is a P-47D with the markings of the Kansas Tornado using (BarracudaCals).

I have seen ONLINE pics of of this aircraft showing a black cowl and a blue cowl. The decal sheet shows it in blue.

Does anyone have a referance book that would solidify what the color was? Also what shade of blue to use?

IMG_4454.jpg picture by xlt2002ms

I am committed on completed this by September 15th. More to follow.

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Friday, August 27, 2010 10:41 PM

hey-o! Im home for the weekend, due to going to the Offutt Air Show ( Yes ) and I opened up the package Squadron sent here....and yeah.

The packing list says "Micro Metal Foil Adhesive" but the bottle says "Microscale Micro Flat"  Errrm, sorry, that is not what I ordered. Hmm

I'll try calling Squadron in the morning to get things figured out. This is a bit of a bummer.

OWL

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Posted by Julez72 on Friday, August 27, 2010 11:05 PM

Yeah thats a tough one 48, i can't tell whether it's black or blue but the canopy framing is the same colour by the look of it, i'll keep digging for ya...

 

 

 

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Posted by kermit on Friday, August 27, 2010 11:21 PM

iBuild,

Just found a profile drawing in my reference stuff .pdf's that show kansas tornado II having a satin black cowling and midnight blue canopy framing plus OD anti glare patch. Tail striping is black too.

Hope that helpedWink Pretty sexy finish if i might add lol.

Richard

EDIT: Owl, didn't see your post yet... Pretty s*cky to be waiting for a package only to find out that the guy working at squadron's warehouse didn't read past the F....... Do hope you will have fun at the airshow... Btw... modellers do like airshow pictures...WhistlingPropeller

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, August 27, 2010 11:51 PM

Jmabx I have been really looking forward to your P-59 progress pictures, she is looking good so far. Its one I haven't seen modeled yet.

DoogsATX  now that yellow wing F-16 picture is one to get the juices flowing I am tellin ya. I have a PT-20 I want to build soon, but I am thinking a fast mover would look way too cool. I did promise myself I would take it easy on GBs next year but this idea has me rethinking that idea. Stick out tongue

CallSignOwl that's a bummer about the adhesive. I just placed an order with Squadron for some paint I am badly in need of, hope I don't have the same trouble. Although I have never had trouble with Squadron in the past.

IBuild148 the Jug is looking good so far, thats the Tamiya kit right ? I really like the markings you have chosen too.

Julez and Nicefit I hope that little trick helps you guys out as I have had very good luck with it.

Ok got the wing roots and seams on the tail filled and ready for sanding tomorrow evening. After that its time for the canopy. I will have to go with the kit canopy, Squadron is out of stock on the vacuformed T-6 canopy, if it looks too hideous I may try thinning it, I dunno we will have to see what happens.

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, August 28, 2010 12:51 AM

NiceFit I have used white glue for most if not all of my canopies. I put just enough to squeeze out a tad and then go over the joint with a water moistened q-tip or two. HTHYes

I used to live in Georgia and when it got hot, IT GOT HOT! and sticky. Few times I remember seeing temps above 95-100+ and the humidity was above 95%!!!Dead In winter it gets COLD too. Averaging in the mid to upper 40's with cold snaps in the upper 20's at times.

48 looking forward to more pics of the Jug!!! Really looking good!!! Nice markings she will be in too. That's a nice '66 SS your building too!!!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, August 28, 2010 1:07 AM

I used to live in Boyd Texas north of DFW and let me tell the heat there was something else along with humidity. Winter was a bit scary at times, going to work in the mornings was like a demolition derby on the freeway. Seemed during the winter the bridges all had ice on them and no one seemed to remember that. I drove 40 miles into Richardson to work, It never failed I would see 2 or 3 pickup trucks hit the brakes just before going onto a bridge, instant spin time Indifferent I never knew a pickup truck could swap ends that fast. I stuck 300lbs against the tailgate of my truck and never had any trouble. Big Smile

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, August 28, 2010 2:16 AM

LOL I know what you mean Randy!! Dad told me a story bout when they lived in Quincy, CA. he had a '49 Chevy pickemup and said when it snowed he just put a bunch of cinder blocks in the bed and kept his speed down, not once ever using chains. In snow you still have a bit of traction at least, ice, forget it.

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Julez72 on Saturday, August 28, 2010 4:21 AM

Hey guys and girl....a couple of shots of Mustang no#3....She's in the paintshop and i've started the invasion stripes.....

Wet sanded with 1200grit and a coat of future to make it glassy....

Invasion stripes going on first....

 

 

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, August 28, 2010 10:04 AM

vetteman42

DoogsATX  now that yellow wing F-16 picture is one to get the juices flowing I am tellin ya. I have a PT-20 I want to build soon, but I am thinking a fast mover would look way too cool. I did promise myself I would take it easy on GBs next year but this idea has me rethinking that idea. Stick out tongue

Awesome! Turns out Hasegawa actually makes a kit of the Texas ANG 90th anniversary F-16. Saw it at my LHS the other day. Never been the biggest F-16 fan (I'll take the F-15 and A-10, thank  you), but for what it's worth and all.

Right now I'm thinking I'll probably put up a post to gauge interest around the new year. Maybe start in March or so. And now I'm hoping someone builds a yellow-wing A-10...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, August 28, 2010 10:08 AM

Julez72 - yay invasion stripes! Interesting that you've left the stabs off. I suppose that probably makes the masking a lot easier. Hmm. Might have to consider that when I start Petie 3rd, since it's got the same fuselage invasion stripes (well, the black stripes anyway)

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by IBuild148 on Saturday, August 28, 2010 10:43 AM

Hey Julez,

I have that same picture and that is why I started to question the color photo's. I did read somewhere that the canopy was in blue signifying the squadron color.

Right now I am leaning toward a Flat Black cowl and a Blue Canopy frame.

Also did you notice the "STAR" on the wheel. The decal sheet doesn't have this and now I have to search for 2 of those.

I also found this obituary on Major Curran who was the pilot of this aircraft.

Posted Sep 17, 2009 @ 10:13 AM

Aviation pioneer Howard J. Curran was born March 27, 1918, in Pratt, and passed away peacefully on Aug. 16, 2009. Flying a P-47 Thunderbolt nicknamed the Kansas Tornado, he was a highly decorated World War II flying ace and also served valiantly during the Korean War.
During the Cold War years, due to instrument failure and lack of fuel, he was forced to land in Albania. He was reported missing on Dec. 23, 1957, on a routine flight to Naples and the search was given up on Dec. 28 and he was presumed dead. The Albanian government at first denied that he had been captured, but through the intervention of French officials, eventually announced that he would be released on Jan. 9, 1958. Curran was the subject of a story in the Jan. 27, 1958, issue of Life magazine.
He retired from the Air Force in 1959 with the rank of major and worked for the U.S. Postal Service until his retirement in 1983. He had lived in Tacoma, Wash.
In his honor, the street in front of the parachute building at Pratt Industrial Airport, being converted into a Bombers on the Prairie Museum, has been named Curran Road.
He is survived by his wife of 50 years, Jacqueline; a son, Mike; a daughter, Marylou; a brother, ***; seven grandchildren and four great-grandchildren.
He was preceded in death by his first wife Joan in 1956 and his oldest daughter Pat in 1999, as well as brothers Robert and Charles and sister Catherine.
Memorials may be made to the Alzheimer’s Association.

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Posted by IBuild148 on Saturday, August 28, 2010 10:47 AM

Kermit my man you...ROCK!Music

That is what I am going with.

julez posted a picture showing the front landing wheels have a star. Anyone out there know where I might find these?

 

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Posted by IBuild148 on Saturday, August 28, 2010 10:58 AM

vetterman,

I am glad to be back at the bench and back in with the GB. It is the Tamiya kit. You can never go wrong with their Jug's. This is my 3rd P-47 and I have 8 more in the stash.

Thanks to kermit I don't need to ponder over the engine cowl color.

More to follow.

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Posted by IBuild148 on Saturday, August 28, 2010 11:01 AM

Thanks simpilot for the kind words.

I am re posting new pics on the 66 since the others where done in a rush and fuzzy.

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Posted by Julez72 on Saturday, August 28, 2010 7:20 PM

Yeah Doogs i'm kinda doing this one backwards cause of the MM Aluminum Plate, i tested it out on my test mule and found that it is very fragile, i actually buffed it back to the plastic so that colour is going on last...The stabs are gonna be alclad aluminum so i left em off....Hey march sounds good to me for the yellow wing GB, that'll give me time to get that Wellington done....

48, sounds like you had some fun researching this one, i just did two days researching Ar196 units on the channel coast...It's interesting what you can learn being a modeler...

 

 

 

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Posted by Julez72 on Saturday, August 28, 2010 7:28 PM

Oh yeah 48 the star on the wheels, i'm assuming that they are white over nuetral grey but don't quote me on that...If it were me i'd probably look to find those star stickers you give to kids and use it as a mask or buy a cheap 1/72 airfix sherman and use the decal...

 

 

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, August 28, 2010 8:06 PM

Julez72

Hey march sounds good to me for the yellow wing GB, that'll give me time to get that Wellington done....

I'm hoping it'll give me time to get the two Wildcats, two Mustangs, two Lavochkin La-5s, and now a Jug done. Oh, and a poor Eduard Hellcat that's just hanging out in the stash...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by jmabx on Saturday, August 28, 2010 10:03 PM

Dobby - Probably too late to help but if I can't fill a canopy gap by running future in the seam, then I'll use putty... carefully! I never had much luck with the Testors window maker. Hard for me to get smooth and it doesn't sand well.

Randy - Sorry I haven't made any progress on the P-59. I've been sidetracked with another kit that got put aside some time ago. Embarrassed

IBuild - Nice little history there! Yes

OWL - I love going to airshows! Have a good time!

P.S. Pics are a must! Big Smile

Kermit - Here's a pic from the last show I was at... pretty cool! Cool

 Who's going to be the first to build a natural metal B-25 for this build or has it been done??? Stick out tongueWink

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by kermit on Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:49 AM

jmabx,

Beautiful!Big Smile I would give anything to have the sound of a merlin engine roaring overhead... we just don't really have airshows like that here in holland or at least very rarely...Sad.

In fact, the most recent old bird i saw was this one... Brace yourselves because it aint pretty...:

This old dakota was standing at a museum and had to be transported to a movieset of some sorts. The people responsible however did not correctly calculate the width of the aircraft and it got stuck (and damaged beyond repair) on the highway. Sad isn't it?

Richard

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