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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:44 PM

Dr Fermis Stick out tongue Good I am glad the SS decals weren't as bad as you had first said, I was giving serious thought to trashing them. If they drove you to madness with your skills they would have sent me screaming into the darkness  for sure.

Julez72 SurpriseWow looks like you are well on your way to having a P-38 on your shelf. I had the very same trouble with the Revell kit I did last year, those booms are a PITA but worth the trouble in the end.

Ibuild148 Yup looks like you have the right idea for this NMF stuff. Your F-86 is lookin sharp, nice job painting the bottom YesYes Hey and thanks for posting your test panel and the little tutorial you did, thats what makes this group so much fun, and we hummmm learn from one and other too Big Smile

Hey Richard you feelin picked on yet LOL

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Julez72 on Thursday, May 20, 2010 12:53 AM

Thanks Randy, I hope to have it ready for paint by the end of the weekend....

48, please do post up another pic of your experiment, very interesting and your Sabre is looking sweetYes

Richard,  just checkingYes

 

 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:29 AM

IBuild148

Hi Frank,

Hope all is well in Badgerland.

Mano-a-mano on the F-86F's. Now I have to really pay attention to details since I know who I am up against!Big Smile

Sorry!  Missed this post before.  Don't worry about me, never built an F-86 before, and this is also my first NMF job LOL!  'Sides, you finished that stunning 115FW F-16 (LOVED that build!) and I am still working on mine.  Had it all decalled and sealed, then had to strip it back to bare plastic.  Still touching up a couple of areas which needed attention.

Thank you for the photos of your Alclad experiment, very interesting! 

Fermis- Obviously, you NEVER sleep!  Simply amazing...

Frank 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:42 AM

Almost forgot to add my humble WIP photo.  With all of the stunning progress pics and lightning speed builds, one photo seems a bit inadequate! Embarrassed

Finished the intake, and spent a good deal of time smoothing out the seams.  I had glued these parts together 13 years ago when I bought the kit, and did a poor job on it so the kit was shelved.  Have always wanted an F-86 on my shelf, so I dug this one out and am fixing the boo-boos of my youth!

Frank 

 

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Posted by IBuild148 on Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:57 AM

Hi Randy,

Will re-post better photo of the test panel. Thanks for the "positive" motivation.

Someone asked how it would handle masking tape so last night I placed a piece of Tamiya and then 3M Blue on the painted surfaces,  and "ripped" them off and no NMF was removed.

Now I only use Tamiya and when I remove masking I always remove "slowoooooooooooooly! 

Frank,

Sorry to here about the F-16. Why did you have to strip it down? Good hearing from you.

Julez,

Thanks for Yes UP brother!

I did figure out how femis is staying awake and where he's getting all is energy:  

 

          

IBuildOne48

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Posted by IBuild148 on Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:04 AM

Hmmm! Where have I seen this! Oh yea in my F-86F. Big Smile

13 years is a long time to punish a model. However I will admit the worst punishment I have given a model was a Tamiya Avro Lancaster. Horrible fit with the nacelles, fuselage and some other issues. I trashed it. Only kit I ever let beat me.

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:13 AM

IBuild148

Frank,

Sorry to here about the F-16. Why did you have to strip it down? Good hearing from you.

Since I had used the Tamiya PE reinforcement plates, I decided to prime the model (which I never do) and took a friends advice and sprayed it with Tamiya gray primer.  No matter how much paint I threw at the model after that, the primer soaked it all up.  With all of the paint on the surface, the finish was quite rough.  I sprayed it with Future, hoping it would help level the surface out.  Thought it might be OK, but after the decals and another Future coat, it looked terrible.

So, I stripped it!

Sorry for the Off Topic photos fellas! Embarrassed  I'll go back to my F-86 now LOL.

Frank 

 

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Posted by maxfax on Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:25 AM

Hello everyone,

I'm pretty close to starting to paint my P-47D. I am going to use Alclad II Polished Aluminum. I want to do some variation on a few panels. Would the flaps and/or ailerons be a different tone as well? I have Alclad II Duraluminum and thats it. I can't get anymore Alclad unless I drive 40min. I have MM aluminum also. Would it be better to paint a few panels with white or grey, and use only the polished aluminum to get some different shading, or paint it all gloss black, and use  the duraluminum and MM aluminum for variation?

Any suggestions?

Rob

On the bench:  Revell 1/72 HCMS Snowberry

 

 

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Posted by Julez72 on Friday, May 21, 2010 3:40 AM

maxfax

Hello everyone,

I'm pretty close to starting to paint my P-47D. I am going to use Alclad II Polished Aluminum. I want to do some variation on a few panels. Would the flaps and/or ailerons be a different tone as well? I have Alclad II Duraluminum and thats it. I can't get anymore Alclad unless I drive 40min. I have MM aluminum also. Would it be better to paint a few panels with white or grey, and use only the polished aluminum to get some different shading, or paint it all gloss black, and use  the duraluminum and MM aluminum for variation?

Any suggestions?

Rob

Rob, Thats not an easy question to answer and as you can see in 48's test alclad tones vary greatly depending on the undercoat........ i reckon keep it simple, i'd gloss black undercoat then cover it all in your Polished aluminum...If you want to pick out control surfaces in duraluminum i'd future coat the polished aluminum and then put the duraluminum straight over that, the duraluminum may come out too dark over polished aluminum if you undercoat with black again....

This was my first NMF, the control surfaces and gunbays were picked out with duraluminm with a black undercoat, but with polished aluminum it may be too dark.....

Hope this helps, the best thing to do maybe is to test it out on an old model....

 

 

 

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Posted by Julez72 on Friday, May 21, 2010 4:45 AM

WIP Pic......It took a little effort but i got the booms alignedYes

Actually i just heated the plastic with a hair dryer.......

 

 

 

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Posted by kermit on Friday, May 21, 2010 2:56 PM

Julez,

Great looking P38 and glad you sorted out the tail boom alignment. You convinced me that i am safe to buy a kit myself. Something i really always wanted on my shelf, a 1/48 P38.... *sniff*. Thank you so much for sharing your experiences. I really look forward to every new update.

As for my own Korean War P51 i can proudly announce the " pre black gloss stage " at this pointBig Smile I know i know, i usually build alot faster but i am particularly busy with preparations for my big USA trip, watching ashcloud reports, booking hotels, packing etc. etc..... I do apologize my friends but i can tell you i put in a few minutes wherever i can... Have to say that Fermis is even faster LOL. Hats off to you sirSmile

Looking at all the pictures involving different shades of NMF on panels i think i might try some of that myself when i get to the NMF spraying.... Looks great!Wink

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by kermit on Friday, May 21, 2010 2:59 PM

DARN... (excuse my dutch...)Bang Head

Just looking at my post i see the seam on the wings.... something i will sort out as soon as i can people....

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by Lancair IV on Friday, May 21, 2010 3:02 PM

Looks good so far Richard, but I have one observation to make.  Are the main gear legs glued on yet?  Please say their not!!!!!

 

I love this kit....

 

Cheers

Rob Byrnes

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Posted by kermit on Friday, May 21, 2010 3:06 PM

Actually...

NoBig Smile

I've been thinking about how to solve the problem on this one as the wheelbays are already finished. Was thinking about using masking tape and sticking some toothpics through as temporary landing gear legs? How do you guys do it?

Richard

EDIT: OMG... now i see it LOL, the wrong way round...Embarrassed How clumsy. I just stuck em on for the pics hahaha

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, May 21, 2010 3:11 PM

Kermit I like to use Q-tips for temporary gear legs, simply cut off the cotton on one end then thin the shaft with a pencil sharpener ( if needed) then fit them in for a nonskid gear leg. Just my 2 cents  worth.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, May 21, 2010 8:18 PM

Richard she is coming along nicely!!!Toast Yes I was going to say something about the gear legs as well hehe. Didn't notice they were on the wrong sides but what got my attention was the angle they are at. Should have a slightly forward rake to them, however, since they are just there for support and not anchored in yet, that's a relief!!Big Smile

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, May 21, 2010 8:45 PM

A major milestone achieved today. I applied a coat of Future  overall, so now she is ready for decaling. Not really worth taking pics of yet, but tomorrow when some are on, I will get some pics posted. I am finally nearing the home stretch.Propeller

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by fermis on Friday, May 21, 2010 8:55 PM

IBuild148

 

I did figure out how femis is staying awake and where he's getting all is energy:  

 

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 Negative sir!!!   That $#!T will make my heart hurt!!!!  It's pure exuberance for the hobby that keeps me awake!

 That said......I'M done!!!!!

Finished BBD this afternoon and put the finishing touches on ramjet just a bit ago.

001-2.jpg picture by fermisb

002-3.jpg picture by fermisb

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And into the stable!!!

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 They aint no show stoppers by any means, but they look ah'ite on the shelf!!!

Now I got a pair of P-47s that got shelved a few years ago....just a couple days worth of work left on them.

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Posted by jmabx on Friday, May 21, 2010 9:52 PM

Nice pair (of Mustangs) Fermis! Yes  I see that you're rather fond of them. Wink

BBD looks great! I've always wanted to build her but was afraid of those decals. And that ramjet job is a rare treat indeed. Well done on all of 'em!!! Toast

Jeremy    Propeller

    

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, May 21, 2010 9:55 PM

Wow! Nice collection of Mustangs.

I would like to share my two previous NMF builds. Both done years ago. First up is my Mustang... the old Monogram Ding Hao that I rescribed and finished in MM Metalizers. Non buffing for the wings and buffable aluminum for the fuselage. Done as Iowa Beaut with D-Day stripes.

And my first attempt at NMF/Metalizer, Monogram 1/48 F-80C, MM buffable aluminum overall. Leading edges polished to a high sheen with a polishing wheel in my Dremel. This was done about 12-14 years ago. The decals are starting to show their age as they were never sealed.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, May 21, 2010 11:35 PM

Fermis Well Done Mate!!!!!!! They are outstanding builds!!!! They look great in the lineup which looks great in itself!!!!!!!ToastBow Down

Stik those are some nice builds as well!!! Love the Mustang!!!Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Julez72 on Saturday, May 22, 2010 3:32 AM

jmabx

Nice pair (of Mustangs) Fermis! Yes  I see that you're rather fond of them. Wink

BBD looks great! I've always wanted to build her but was afraid of those decals. And that ramjet job is a rare treat indeed. Well done on all of 'em!!! Toast

Ditto Great workYes on both.....

Thats one hell of a stable dudeSurprise

Richard, Nice progress on your 51, i see your up to the fun part....Now get those little green hands moving and lay some paint downYes

Stik, nice builds both of themYes anxious to see some pics of your current WIP...

 

 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, May 22, 2010 7:14 AM

Fermis- My Gawd, those two 'Stangs are absolutely incredible, well done!  I can't believe the stunning results you are able to achieve in such a short time.  Well done my friend! Bow Down

Carlos- Love that F-80, gotta get one of those for myself!  I have wanted one for a while after seeing another one built last year, this is icing on the cake.

Frank 

 

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Posted by fermis on Saturday, May 22, 2010 11:04 AM

Thanks guys!!!!  I may be back for more, later on!

 

Very nice stang and 80 there Stik!!!

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, May 22, 2010 11:24 AM

Frank that old F-80  is a sweet little kit that really builds up nicely. It even includes a full engine and a maintenance stand for the rear fuselage half. The cockpit is well detailed and has a nice proper seated pilot. I hope they do reissue it soon.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Saturday, May 22, 2010 2:16 PM

Daywalker what seams are you talking about I cant see any, Nice work, very nice.

Julez72 looks like you convinced that plastic to straighten out its act, I bet that truckers strap came in handy too. Big Smile Well done Toast

Kermit looks like you will have the F-51 all finished up before you go pond hopping. BTW those same seams always bite me too, seems all the kits have those in the same places.

Stikpusher Ya tease !! Now we hafta wait for pictures huh Whistling Hey thanks for sharing your first NMF builds the both look great. The F80 is really sweet. I want to build one someday.

Fermis what can I say that hasn't been said already, your ability to build so fast and so well will always amaze me. Takes me over a month to build one P-51 and they aren't nearly as nice as yours are, and here you build two in less than a month a couple of weeks in fact. Bow DownToast Your builds are on the front page.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, May 22, 2010 8:19 PM

Some pic worthy progress today. I began applying the decals. I am not overly impressed with these Cutting Edge Decals. They are supposedly measured for this kit, but the nose one is too small and the tip tank arrows are too long with the slit for the fins too small. And I am finding that the kit decals are on the brittle side so far. The anti glare panel is breaking on one side and one of the fuselage stars broke as well. I should get the remainder of the decals on tomorrow. Lots of stencils on this bird.Black Eye

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by kermit on Saturday, May 22, 2010 10:24 PM

Fermis,

The only thing i can say is....WOWBow Down And they say i can be a fast builder....geez. Gorgeous ponies and a very impressive display room you got there. Simply amazingSmileYes

Well,.... i decanted the laquer based gloss black, sprayed it on last evening and was quite surprised to find out that the paint has dried overnight already.Surprise I can remember using revell enamel gloss black on the C47 and that took days and daysBang Head. Will future the lot and just might make it to the end.... 36 hours left before i come over to the other side of the pondBig Smile

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by soulcrusher on Sunday, May 23, 2010 2:26 AM

hey Randy you can sign me up for round two. I am building a old Hobbycraft 1/48 Seversky P-35 for my GB over at Swanny's called "The golden Age of Aviation and I just realised since it was an all NMF plane it would fit right in here too. So put me down and I'll be starting the build in the next two weeks or so. Thanks1

Soulcrusher:drive:

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Sunday, May 23, 2010 5:41 AM

Looking forward to anything you post SC!!!!! Bring it on!!!!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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