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Posted by Echo139er on Sunday, December 12, 2010 3:08 PM

CallSignOWL

IM trying to post the group badge, but every time I try i get the message that I reached the character limit in the signature. I see signatures with more GB badges than I have though..How do I get around this?

 

OWL

One way is to combine all your badges into one picture.

Another is to create a automated gif to cycle through your badges.

 

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Sunday, December 12, 2010 3:06 PM

IM trying to post the group badge, but every time I try i get the message that I reached the character limit in the signature. I see signatures with more GB badges than I have though..How do I get around this?

 

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Posted by kermit on Saturday, December 11, 2010 12:48 AM

....PM received...Wink Thanks Randy. Clear as chrystal nowSmile

Richard

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Posted by kermit on Friday, December 10, 2010 11:44 PM

Fermis and Owl,

YesYesYes

About the two wires....

I am basing my current attempts on this picture i googled. Hope i dont break a law or offend someone posting it:

Last night i did the back row and i was planning on doing those little ones that run from the left side of each cilinder head to the right side. Is that what you guys meant?

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, December 10, 2010 10:02 PM

Thank you all for the complements on the 190 was a fun build.

Richard I couldnt find much history on Black 10, what I did find was it was in a fighter group 2./SG4 in Northern Italy in 1943 in a ground support role. The group was sent to Russia in July 1944. This aircraft was in the same group as White 7 which I did find much more info on.

Kermit oh my you have the idea for sure, looks very good. Fermis is right each cylinder does have 2 plug wires going to it, actually I don't know of any aircraft piston engine that doesn't have two plugs per jug. To be honest Richard I am a bit afraid to try scratching on a 1/32 kit because there is so much more that can be done.

Doc Fermis man I gotta tell ya each time I see one of your pits go together its better than the last. Bow Down

CallSignOwl WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just realized that your Corsair is in 1/72 scale

I am truly very impressed, you out do your last build by miles with each now one. You rock young lady Toast

 

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Friday, December 10, 2010 6:24 PM

Thank you MrSquid2U, and I am indeed a female!  It does seem to be a bit rare for one of my species to partake in such a hobby as this  Wink

 

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Posted by MrSquid2U on Friday, December 10, 2010 5:15 PM

Seeing some great progress folks!

Excuse me if it's an odd question but did I understand that "Owl" is a female? If so I am even more impressed than the wonderful efforts/results alone should warrant. It's just so rare (for me at least) to see any female modeler let alone such an ambitious and talented one.

Kudos to you.

       

 

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Friday, December 10, 2010 6:39 AM

Vetteman: Thank you for the compliments, you really think that I will be winning contests soon? That 190 is a stunner. I still haven't gotten one for the stash and you might've convinced me to make that the next purchase...but first I'll see what Xmas brings me. Mom hinted that I am going to be getting a bunch of modeling stuff! Wink

Kermit: That engine looks like its off to a great start. Adding all those wires to the engines is still something I have not tried yet.

Fermis: those seats look excellent! don't cry too much about the instrument faces! and that gunners bit is super tiny!  Bow Down

 

I've decided on the tri-color scheme for my corsair, and because i am in a dorm (and because it is a little 'ol 1/72 kit) that I would hand paint the plane. IT was a bit difficult to get the white paint to work because I grabbed a white that was going bad!! It was all thick and chunky...but I made it work. aAding just a tiny bit of flat gray to it really helped out a bunch! I'm not done with the painting yet, but here is the preliminary base coats.

OWL

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Posted by fermis on Thursday, December 9, 2010 5:40 PM

V-man, Beautiful job!!!Toast

(in Ms. Piggy voice) Oh, Kermy,

Engine is looking good. Don't forget, each cylinder has two wires going to it. Coming out of the ring, side by side, one goes just like you have and the other to the outer end of the cylinder.

 Been busy with some more scratchin! I find that revellogram seats always seam to be pretty clunky, and seats are one of my favorite things to scratch. Didn't do a whole lot in the pit. The only things really visible are the seats and throttle area. I cut off the molded on throttles, cut grooves, and replaced with fine stretched sprue and a little ball of paint for the handles. I also scratched new yokes from stretched sprue and the co-pilots oxygen bottle. The seats were done with aluminum, wire, stretched sprue, and carved up sheet styrene for the seat pad, and Tamiya tape for the belts. The IP is just a simple drybrush with clear glue on the inst faces. Can't see it through the glassCrying

I also scratched the tail gunners controls.

 

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Posted by kermit on Thursday, December 9, 2010 2:53 PM

Randy, you really have outdone yourself on this one! Beautiful and not so often chosen paintjob. And i can see the watercolors really worked well for you. Especially the undersides look spot on to me. Bet you're pretty pleased with this one yourselfWink. Is it a mount of some particular ace? Would love to know more about your models history. Congrats!Yes

Like i said i was going to continue on the engine. Fermis's wiring looked gorgeous so i wanted to try something similar for my build. Googling pictures of the R2800 i saw that the engine had some kind of collar attached to it with a lot of tubing/ wiring coming out of it.

So i took some plastic strip and wire and fashioned myself something like a collar thingy:

Not owning a micro drill i just took a thin sharp needle and punctured the collar and engine where i wanted the wires to go. An evening later i have the front row done:

(flash:)

Sofar i really like it myself and it will only look better with the back row done as well as some other wires i see on the picturesSmile.

Wip's to follow soonBig Smile

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, December 8, 2010 9:44 PM

Mustangwillie cool your build is in I will update the front page shortly and welcome to the group.

 

I am calling the FW190 F-8 Trop finished. Turns out this is mostly a out of box build as the only scratch building was a seat harness and buckles. I was going to scratch the guns but, well it is a first for me. I didnt brake the kit guns or pittoe tube off during the build sooooooo I decided to let them stay. Anyway here are the finished pictures.

For the weathering on the bottom I dry brushed using water colors, worked out pretty well I think, I just need to get a little better at it.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by mustangwillie on Wednesday, December 8, 2010 4:11 PM

I would like to submit a 1/48 scale Italeri F-86 Skyblazer, the aircraft is covered with household aluminum foil of which I learned from Ken Friend.

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, December 8, 2010 1:29 PM

Railfan no worries my friend come back to the bench when you can, school does come first ya know.

Sorry for the double post guys

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by vetteman42 on Wednesday, December 8, 2010 1:27 PM

Miss Owl you go girl !!!!!!!!!!!! Ditto with all that Kermit and Doc Fermis have said. You are completely fearless and will be winning contests me thinks very soon. Amazing work you are doing on the Corsair Toast Oh and the Viper is a sweet build too BTW.

Fermis no wonder I am such a slow builder, I have been wiring engines the hard way it seems, one wire at a time Embarrassed. I am also going to try the Fermis method of creating lenses on my very next build. Cant wait to see what plastic magic you come up with next on this build. Bow Down

Kermit nice lookin pit you have goin there Toast I look forward to seeing some of your scratch building with great expectations.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by kermit on Wednesday, December 8, 2010 1:16 PM

Ditto I can only agree!

And here i am with some basic tamyia tape seatbelts....Zip it!

Considering the scale (my first attempt was 1/32 scale i am not displeased with it. Those buckles (tiny bits of plastic sprue with aluminum paint added) were so small...

Anyways, gonna close up the lot and concentrate on the engine and gunbay cavities next. I do not own a microdrill but i think i can come up with something...

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by fermis on Wednesday, December 8, 2010 11:30 AM

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Very nice Owl!

I dig the nav lights!...and gear.....and pit...and....

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Wednesday, December 8, 2010 7:41 AM

I performed some major surgery on y Corsair: I cut apart one of the wings to make it display in the folded position and also cut out the flaps. I added sections of the rockets that came with the kit to the ends of the flaps that I cut out to give the rounded edge. (they were not on the plane I was building and in any case were undersized) The wheel wells were open and you could see into the entire wing! I added thin strips of plastic card for the walls and other details, and some wire bent to shape.

A lot of test fitting and trimming was required to get everything to fit right! I also boxed in the wing fold area on the main piece and added details to make it look busy.  I also added detail to the main gear struts with wire. They look much better now than what the kit provided! I was in the zone and forgot to take pictures, but when I remembered, I still hadn't painted the gear struts, so you can see specific added detail on those still!

I also cut out a bit of plastic on the wing tips to add the clear landing lights, another first for me,and I also cut out the intake area on the wings (I don't know the correct term for it) and slid tiny strips of  plastic in.

OWL

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Tuesday, December 7, 2010 6:51 PM

fermis

 

 kermit:

 

Fermis,

Excellent wiring on those engines. Please do tell me... do you use CA to attach it or what? I've tried different kinds up untill now and either it snaps off easily again (after gluing my fingers in the process...) or you get those nasty white hardened glue residue after curing...



 I use a micro-bit to drill tiny holes around the ignition ring. Take a short length of fine wire, bend it in half and crimp the folded end, so it'll fit the hole. Insert into hole, and from the inside, bend the wire, then with an applicator, put a dab of CA to it. Once that's good and dry, I trim each wire to length, and just bend them into place, I don't CA them to the cylinders.

 

 

Better yet CA glue from behind or not at all! It the wire fits snug in the drilled holes (a drill bit slightly smaller than the wire will aid this) You may have to use pliers to 'push' the wire in, then clean and paint without glue! The paint will secure the wire bits somewhat as well.

 

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Posted by fermis on Tuesday, December 7, 2010 9:20 AM

kermit

Fermis,

Excellent wiring on those engines. Please do tell me... do you use CA to attach it or what? I've tried different kinds up untill now and either it snaps off easily again (after gluing my fingers in the process...) or you get those nasty white hardened glue residue after curing...

 

 

 I use a micro-bit to drill tiny holes around the ignition ring. Take a short length of fine wire, bend it in half and crimp the folded end, so it'll fit the hole. Insert into hole, and from the inside, bend the wire, then with an applicator, put a dab of CA to it. Once that's good and dry, I trim each wire to length, and just bend them into place, I don't CA them to the cylinders.

 

OWL,

Have to say it, hopefully without sounding like i'm sucking up too much but you must be my number one "newcomer" this year. No doubt in my mind you will be winning contests a few years down the line. Your fearlessnes is just mindboggling to meYes. Only busy for a couple of months and here you are foiling aircraft (well) and scratching cockpits. I take my hat of to you ma'amWink

 

Ditto Great stuff coming out of the Owl workshop!!!

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Tuesday, December 7, 2010 8:53 AM

Thank you for the compliments, guys! Toast

I have a little more work to show: I thinned out the exhaust area near the cowlings--it was solid plastic, Dropped the elevators and added a bit more detail to the tail wheel. I am also planning to cut apart one of the wings to show it folded and drop the flaps, as well as box in the gear wells. (all firsts for me!)

 

OWL

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Tuesday, December 7, 2010 5:52 AM

Kermit,

Cockpit is looking good! You have good work ethic when it comes to keeping a good pace building models.

Owl,

Agreed with the fearlessness comment, scratch building a blanked off cockpit is a challenging task! Good work and too bad the WIP's were lost!

On that note I never erase the pictures on SD cards, they are inexpensive and the three I have hold 1400 pictures each! I trust them over the computer for storage.

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Posted by Railfan 233 on Monday, December 6, 2010 4:05 PM

Man, this GB has gone far since I've been gone.

I have to apologize for my absence, Vetteman. The new school year for me brought a lot of homework, and bench time is almost zero, and will remain so untill Christmas break.

I'll try to get back into it as soon as I can.

  

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Posted by kermit on Monday, December 6, 2010 2:27 PM

Fermis,

Excellent wiring on those engines. Please do tell me... do you use CA to attach it or what? I've tried different kinds up untill now and either it snaps off easily again (after gluing my fingers in the process...) or you get those nasty white hardened glue residue after curing...

OWL,

Have to say it, hopefully without sounding like i'm sucking up too much but you must be my number one "newcomer" this year. No doubt in my mind you will be winning contests a few years down the line. Your fearlessnes is just mindboggling to meYes. Only busy for a couple of months and here you are foiling aircraft (well) and scratching cockpits. I take my hat of to you ma'amWink

As for my own feeble attempts i am basically done with my P47 pit apart from gluing stuff together and fabricating some seatbelts:

Used revells olive green for the interior dull dark green, drybrushed with aluminium and white and just added a black wash using my trusty watercolors. The latter needs some slight cleaning up but the effect is mostly there. Also i dotted with the leftover aluminum to simulate some wear and tear on the floor and seat. As said, next little sub project will be scratching some seatbelts.

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Monday, December 6, 2010 9:39 AM

I'm lovin' that camo scheme, vetteman! Very cool.

fermis, excellent tips on the lights, Ill be storing those away for future reference

the weekend allowed me to begin on the Testors corsair, but due to a camera SNAFU, I lost all the in-progress pictures!! Crying I do apologize!!  I completely scratched teh cockpit and tail wheel weel due to the original kit only having a blanked over plastic area passing off as a cockpit/wheel well. These are the only surviving progress pics, but you can see what i was dealing with before and after I cut out the plastic:

I used a salvaged "cockpit" from an old Frog Spitfire to use as a base for the corsair cockpit. I use the term "cockpit" loosely because all it consisted of was a floor and rear bulkhead. No seat, no sidewall detail, and no instrument panel. I used a landing gear cover from that same Spitfire kit and snipped and rearranged the pieces to make a passing resemblance to an Instrument panel, I built up the tub using sheet plastic, made my own seat and fleshed out the bulkhead to fit the contours of the Corsair interior and added belts made of tape. I made a control stick out of a bent paperclip with a dab of CA on the end for a grip. lost the in progress pictures, but here is the final result. It is not perfect or accurate by any means, but I am happy with my first scratch-built cockpit!

the Tailwheel well was boxed in with plastic sheet and wire, and was not as difficult as the cockpit!

 

OWL

 

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Posted by fermis on Sunday, December 5, 2010 11:39 PM

V-man!!!.....Nice!!!Yes

I'm progressing really slow, but I've finally got pretty much everything re-scribed, so things will be picking up!

Wired up the engines.

Did up the lights this evening. The left wing has 2 lights, 1 big landing light and a smaller red one. I drilled out the divets to accept some scratched lights. For the red one, I just used a piece of clear red sprue. For the landing lights, I drilled a divet into the end of a piece of sprue. I didn't have any clear sprue of the same size, so I heated up a piece of (thinner) clear sprue and pressed it to the diveted end of the grey sprue. I painted the end of the grey sprue silver and CAed the clear to it. Once dry, I snipped off the extra clear sprue and sanded to shape, trimmed the whole thing down and plugged the "bulbs" in.

The kit has nothing to represent the nav lights. It should have big clear glass with colored bulbs. I cut out the wing tip, and again, not having big enough clear sprue, I heated up some more and smashed it into the wingtip.

I scored the edges with a blade, just as a ref. point, removed it and drilled out the "bulb". Bulbs were painted red/green and the rest in silver, then CAed back in place. I used a heavy grinding disc to gring em down close to shape, followed by a finer grinding bit, then sanded and polished. No pic of the finish, but you'll see em later on!

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Sunday, December 5, 2010 7:36 PM

SuppressionFire

Konigwolf,

No AM GB can be OOB as well, sure scratch built details are nice yet not a must here...

vetteman42,

Is the above statement accurate?

...All I want for Christmas is some time to build models! Thanks SantaWhistling

Yes Sir the above statement is very true, the only scratch building on my 190 is the seat belts and I will be adding brake lines. But I think Konigwolf wanted to add some AM to his buiild.

Hey I want the same thing for Christmas Toast

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Sunday, December 5, 2010 7:14 PM

Konigwolf,

No AM GB can be OOB as well, sure scratch built details are nice yet not a must here...

vetteman42,

Is the above statement accurate? Anyhow nice camouflage on the Fw-190!

Ok I honestly have not hit the model bench sense 'weekend madness' 3 weeks ago! Its been frustrating wanting some quality bench time yet X-mass decorations, parties, honey do lists... ect have had to take priority. 

ASAP that is going to change as I wish to have Chwat finished by the 25th with the next project started before the new year!

...All I want for Christmas is some time to build models! Thanks SantaWhistling

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Posted by vetteman42 on Sunday, December 5, 2010 6:45 PM

Kermit Eats cant wait to see what you come up with on this build, I am sure you will be taking this one over the top knowing how much you like the Thunderbolts.

Konigwolf sorry to lose you and I must say I understand where you are coming from. If things change you are more than welcome to jump in here anytime.

Ok now for some WIP pictures, I painted the camo on the 190 freehand, course I had a day long battle with the airbrush trying to get it to paint a finer line that it would. So this is what I ended up with, my version of 1943 Italy  tropical camo.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Sunday, December 5, 2010 10:11 AM

Vetteman I must regretfully pull out. Due  to change in circumstance and plans there is nothing I'll be able to do anytime soon that will be pure scratch. I would of liked to of built my CH-53 GS but it would still require AM MG3's and .50 MG that I dont class myself as being able to build to the degree that I want.

Andrew

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Posted by kermit on Sunday, December 5, 2010 9:55 AM

Ok,... before i start yacking lemme just tell you all that i am very amazed what i have seen on my computer screen the past few months. To see your creativity and ideas come to life by using just a few scraps of plastic, wire and putty is mind boggling to me. I must be thinking too much OOB as i have difficulty "seeing" the stuff you can scratch Big Smile

But anyways.... P38 for NMFII is out of the way and i cleared my hobby bench for my new project: Academy's P47D in 1/48thStick out tongue

The idea to use scratched blast tubes out of syringe needles was very welcome and i intend to do that with my kit. Also my last project cured me of wanting to use academy decals ever again. The little stencils are ok but anything bigger than that has invariably and always backfiredNo Time to fire up my printer again and make me some custom stuff!Yes

Also i will put in some scratched seatbelts and whatever i can think of during the course of the build.

Lastly i intend to use the Talon paint for the first time. Not scratching but at least a first. Pictures i have seen looked amazing and i have alot of expectations about it!Wink

Soooo.... that's my big plan for now, hope you will like what i am about to attempt and thank you for watching along. Any comment and or criticism ofcourse being always welcomeSmile

Richard

 

 

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