Night Fighter Nut

I don't understand what you mean by filters.   What are filters in the weathering sense?

 

Hi Night Fighter Nut, filters are used to subtely change the tone or hue a paint.  Used correctly and in conjuction with washes and dry brushing give a paint job more depth and contrast.  Armor modellers often use filters to give paint a faded look or to replicate fuel stains.  Filters can be used by aircraft modellers to do the above and to give different panels on a plane slightly varied hues, to name a couple of common applications.

One can buy premade filters, such as those sold by MIG Productions, or you can make your own.  Both acrylics and enamels can be used to make a filter.  Filters made from colors such as red or yellow give a warm tone to the base paint.  Blues and greens give a cooler tone or hue.  Thin the paint to a ratio of about 95% thinner to 5% paint using a mild thinner like water or turpentine depending on the paint.   I normally make my own filters from enamels or oils, because I use acrylics almost exclusively and I dont have to worry as much about taking the base coat off. 

The technique is pretty simple.  Dip a broad soft brush, broadness depending on how large an area to want the filter effect on, into the filter and wipe most of the excess off until the brush is damp.  Brush one uniform coat on the area.  Matt surfaces cause the paint to spread across and seemingly work into the surface.  The beauty to this technique is that it is simple and almost impossible to mess up.   The effect is very very subtle, and you may not notice anything after the first coat is dry in 30-45 minutes.  Carefully build up coats until you have achieved the effect you want.  It is important to make sure the brush is just damp and does not leave residue filter, because it will then behave much like a wash.   

Thanks, I find that very helpful.  :)

Greg thanks and you're right thats been the only fit problem so far

Ernest that cockpit just keeps getting better ,color looks spot on

Night Fighter Nut like what you did with the seats,nicely done

Made some more forward progress got the primer on

this is my first attempt at preshading and it was a little nerve wracking

then a base of RLM76 modelmaster enamel

then I used acrylic for the RLM75 mottle,I like using the acrylic when doing complex freehand airbrush work due to the ease of fixing mistakes,just keep a clean cloth on hand damp with denatured alcohol and wipe away the errant paint

Trey thats some great work. What did you use for primer? i'm waiting for a batch of mr. surfacer to come in the mail, so i've been doing some other details like wheels, gear legs and props. Great job pre shading. i'm not looking forward to doing it on my bird simply cause of its size and my hand is bound to cramp up, but it is necessary as it gives it a good subtle look, especially under something so light as rlm 76. your mottling looks real good too.

Nightfighter nut, you got some pretty fine tuned skills there...

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got the control surfaces posed, and warmed up for alittle mottling

Nathan

Nathan thanks, I use an HB Automotive MS primer thinned down. I find it works good as it is designed to go over urethane bumpers so it has an etching as well as flex properties already in it. The problem is its high solids and needs to be thinned quite a bit to use on models or it just fills in too much and you loose details easily. You parts are looking great,what color do you use on your props and tires? The last pic is not showing for some reason

Sounds like that primer might be tough for me to airbrush with my finer tip, i'm still learning how to use it. Hope my mr. surfacer gets here soon. my tire black is a custom mix with flat black and and tamiya deck tan mixed in to lighten it abit. then i mix in more deck tan and mist it on to fade the tires. the rims are just gloss black. the prop blades are tamiya nato black, looks good for rlm 70. Heres the last pic, i'll try again.

Nathan

nice work Fellas ! Keep it up..

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Nathan yes the primer is impossible to shoot through an airbrush unless you thin it 75%. Thanks for sharing the paint mixes appreciate it! I can see the pic now looking good!

Trey, your 110 looks great!

The Horten is coming along great too.

I've got some done on the P-70.  I added a little bit of detail in the gunner's compartment.  Now I need to get some ammo cans since I made the rack for them....Hmm....  How HVH talks about Monday kits, well, I have a variation of that.  AMT decided to cut costs by moving production to Mexico in the '90s.  I had heard the Mexican kits weren't as good.  So far, that is very true.  Lots more flash, no biggie there, but some of the parts aren't completely formed, as they didn't fill the molds completely.  I have to source an engine now, and one prop is mishapen. 

Cheers,

Greg

Wow! some great working going on guys!

 Greif8, Nice work on the Aeries pit.

 Trey, Fantastic! You've done a great job on the fit and the paint work is looking good too! Closing in on the home stretch.

 P38, That Horten is coming along nicely!

 Nathan, The Ju88 looks great!

 Looking forward to seeing updates from everyone!

 Hope I didn't miss anyone, Keep posting the updates All!

 Mo

Fellas,

Some nice work going on here.

Trey what color did you use for your preshading?

Hercmech thanks, I used model master flat black cut about 30% with model master leather then thinned 50% with mineral spirits

Trey,

I like it...pure black can be very hard to cover with lighter colors. I will have to use your mix. I assume you are using enamels???

Herchmech yes modelmaster enamel

Got some work done on my Bf-110 recently. Trying to get this done while working on a few other GB's. I must say I am pretty happy with the detail in the Italeri kit. Very nice lines and cockpit detail for 1/72. The paint chart is a little off using FS color codes. The instructions called for pale green for interior parts. I ended up going with Tamiya's RLM grey. I like the dark tone and it does have hints of green in it. Here are some pics. Will post the painted pics soon.

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can't wait to see some paint on her Travis. I've been wondering what these 1 72 110 kits look like. i love the bf110 and havent' ventured off into 1 72 yet but i might have to as shelf space becomes hard to come by.

Nathan

There is some serious quality work going on here.  I have to wait till February before I get to crack open the Zerstorer Nacht Jager.  I'm still in 737 school in Atlanta.  Keep it up guys!

Satch

I got the futura on and some decals started . Hopefully wrap up the decals tomorrow and then another light coat of futura to seal them

Nathan T

 

 

Stunning finish on those wheel! Such a beautiful looking surface.

Cheers

Trey, you are on track to be the first done by far!  And you've done such a fantastic job. 

Question?  Has anybody had any experience with Verlinden Productions?  I've heard good and bad about them.  Besides Vector, they are the only ones that have the engine I need for my P-70.  They are better priced than Vector, and come with more parts.

A big thank you out to the guys who have shared some good info on weathering, filters, primer etc.

Cheers,

Greg

thanks Greg still got a long way to go yet . That sucks about the bad mold job on your P-70 wish I had some info on the Verlinden but I've not had any experience with it.

Hey Gregbear,

 I just used a Verlinden cockpit and canon set on my recently completed 1/32 Starfighter for the NMF II GB. If that was the only set I had for that kit then it would have been awesome, I also had the True Details set which was much better rendered and detailed. Verlinden had some nice bits but on the whole not the best of the resin/PE AM goodies. But if they are the only set available then it will still make that kit shine.

Hope this helps

Cheers

Thanks CTC, I am going to go ahead and order it.

Cheers,

Greg

Trey: that's plain (plane?) out awesome! You're two-thirds done and I've barely started. And she looks great too! The German mottle pattern can be difficult to pull off but yours looks like she's be spectacular!

Greg: I have limited experience with Velinden products. As Casper says they're not the best out there but a solid contender. I think you'll be very happy with what you ordered.

Gamera thanks very much really appreciate the kind words ,this is only my third attempt at this mottle technique so I was worried about pulling it off.

She's standing on her own feet!

and all those itty bitty PITA stencils are applied

belly only had a few decals thankfully,my eyes could'nt take much more. I give my props to those building modern jets with all the small stencils that goes on them .

Beautiful work all around guys.

Trey, you are moving fast on that Bf110, and maintaining quality at the same time!  Very nice indeed!

Greg, I echo what the others have said about verlinden, they are very hit and miss when it comes to quality.  I hope you hit one of their winners with your order.

P38, your Horten Flying Wing is awesome!  I really like the cockpit wiring, first class work.

I made some progress on my build today, buttoning up the cockpit, sanding seams and rescribing a few panel lines.  Not much to show for pictures, so only two of the model.  I also worked on the display base and have it 90% complete.  The base is an award plaque that I mounted Evergreen sheets to and scribed, painted and weathered them to resemble a maintenance hardstand.  It turned out ok overall, though I will probably redo the grass.

Ernest

thanks Ernest, your office looks great and I'm liking the display base as well

got some weathering done today, I mixed black & light dirt promodeller wash with some ground burnt umber pastel for a wash then after it dried sprayed with dullcoat. Next I ground up several earth tone pastels and worked them in along the wing roots ,engine nacelles and the access steps ect. then airbrushed some thinned black for the exhaust and cannon stains.

I tackled mounting the diopoles supports and its not as bad as I thought it would be. The kit would have the supports just flush mounted on and I had doubts about this being enough of a glue joint for a good hold. Especially considering how much tweaking was going to be needed to get them all aligned properly. I strectched some sprue and cut an angle on one end of each

then these were glued in place and sanded as much as possible to blend them to the support

ready for a test fit

dry fitted them for now,I'll get the diopoles on and aligned after a final test fit of the complete assembly

Trey and Grief! looking sharp !!

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Pretty sneaky getting that 229 in the camo!