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Weathering GB - 2/1/2011 - 1/31/2012

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Posted by jbrady on Sunday, February 27, 2011 9:07 PM

Pepper: Thanks, the ones I need are the 60 degree letters and numbers both black and white. PM me with the details.

   

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Posted by ruddratt on Sunday, February 27, 2011 10:46 PM

Many thanks, fellas! Yes This is (and I hate to sound redundant, but I still feel this way) an AWESOME idea for a GB. I've learned a ton from you guys.

Jules, the triplane is one kit missing from my stash, but I've heard nothing but good things about it, and like you said, very little rigging, so it's a great way to cut one's teeth on these WWI birds! Yes I'll also keep my eyes open for any info on Little's Camel.

Doogs, I know what you're capable of, and I am dying to see your work on the 'pup (ain't you done with that mossie yet?! Wink ). Not sure what WnW has coming down the pipe, but a S.P.A.D. XIII would be flippin' amazing! I could see myself getting two of 'em easily!

As an aside, I need to confess I'm still honing my photographic skills. The pics I've seen you guys post are what I hope to achieve in quality, but have not quite hit on the right combo just yet.

Mike

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Sunday, February 27, 2011 11:18 PM

Took a fair bit of work to get to this stage

A lot of resin residue to clean off and a slightly complicated build, instructions were not entirely complete so had to work from the artwork for some of it.

But in the end came together, painted and weathered up quit nicely.

May have to add some lighter shades to the tyres.

Cheers

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Posted by jbrady on Monday, February 28, 2011 7:14 PM

Casper that oil thingy looks great Can't wait to see the finished product.

This is as far as I can go until I get the decals I need. I'll do some pre-shading with a darker grey on the underside but preshading the top will be a waste of time. I'll post shade, fade and highlight the center section of the fulelage as I go along.

I kinda like the looks of the Hellcat in the early war camo colors. May have to do Hamilton McWhorter's Cat in those colors at some point.

Now on to something totally different... Beaufighter Mark VI in 1940 night camo.

   

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Posted by pepper kay on Tuesday, March 1, 2011 7:51 AM

jbrady

Pepper: Thanks, the ones I need are the 60 degree letters and numbers both black and white. PM me with the details.

LHS didn't have either white or black but said they could order for me ... told them to go ahead and  should be here by the weekend ... $5.00 per each shee (2 sheets)t ...

If this won't work for you, I'll use 'em :-) ...

Give me a shout - pepperkay@aol.com and let me know ...

As an aside, I can't get the Smilies to work - any ideas ? ... not the most important thing in the world, but ... also, how does one PM a GB member ? ...

Thanks,

pepper

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Posted by jbrady on Tuesday, March 1, 2011 9:24 AM

Pepper: Thanks I'll send you my mailing address in an e-mail. I thought I knew how to PM group members... but apparently I don't. As for the sm,ilies I don't use them but I think you just click on the icon and choose which one you want.Big Smile

   

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Posted by kermit on Wednesday, March 2, 2011 11:17 AM

Hey guys,

As i announced i will start off with Revell of Germany's Type XXI sub with visible interior. It's a crossover with the ASW2 GB here on FSM. Not much done apart from spraying the inside of the hull halves light grey, painting some dials and tubes that are molded on and adding a black wash as to simulate dirt...:

More to follow soon.

Richard

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, March 3, 2011 7:40 AM

Lookin' good Richard! I can imagine those subs getting pretty ragged, even with typical naval "clean everything all the time" discipline!

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Posted by kermit on Thursday, March 3, 2011 11:10 AM

Hmmm....Hmm Your post made me think Doogs,... Were these subs really dirty at any time..?

 It is a good question to ask and to be honest i am not sure. The U-boat crews as i have it in my head (based mostly on books that i read and movies i've seen like Das Boot) were, especially late in the war not that zealous and morale was lacking.....(not that hard to imagine with like a 75% mortality rate)  so i figured the boats, under certain uboat captains, were concentrating on survival and not cleaning.

With that in mind i just started this XXI boat dirtying up the heck out of it LOL. Call it uneducated guesswork if you will....

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, March 3, 2011 11:13 AM

kermit

Hmmm....Hmm Your post made me think Doogs,... Were these subs really dirty at any time..?

 It is a good question to ask and to be honest i am not sure. The U-boat crews as i have it in my head (based mostly on books that i read and movies i've seen like Das Boot) were, especially late in the war not that zealous and morale was lacking.....(not that hard to imagine with like a 75% mortality rate)  so i figured the boats, under certain uboat captains, were concentrating on survival and not cleaning.

With that in mind i just started this XXI boat dirtying up the heck out of it LOL. Call it uneducated guesswork if you will....

Richard

I'd imagine they'd have to get dirty...between small leaks of oil, water, etc, a small enclosed cylinder full of crewmen, especially during the stresses of a mission, of dodging subhunters and depth charges...I could totally see them getting all grimy.

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Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, March 3, 2011 10:20 PM

OK fellas, we've got another update on the Pfalz. Got the prop, spinner, windscreen, some engine plumbing, and the guns assembled, painted, and attached. I'm OK with the results except for the prop - needs to be weathered up just a bit. Thing about these birds is that they could go through a lot of props in their service life so it wasn't unusual to see fairly pristine props on a weather-beaten airframe.

All that remains now is finishing the upper wing, getting it mounted, and rigging it up. It's a bit time consuming, so my next update may be a while. Anyway, enjoy the pics!

 

Mike

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, March 4, 2011 12:47 AM

DoogsATX

 kermit:

Hmmm....Hmm Your post made me think Doogs,... Were these subs really dirty at any time..?

 It is a good question to ask and to be honest i am not sure. The U-boat crews as i have it in my head (based mostly on books that i read and movies i've seen like Das Boot) were, especially late in the war not that zealous and morale was lacking.....(not that hard to imagine with like a 75% mortality rate)  so i figured the boats, under certain uboat captains, were concentrating on survival and not cleaning.

With that in mind i just started this XXI boat dirtying up the heck out of it LOL. Call it uneducated guesswork if you will....

Richard

 

I'd imagine they'd have to get dirty...between small leaks of oil, water, etc, a small enclosed cylinder full of crewmen, especially during the stresses of a mission, of dodging subhunters and depth charges...I could totally see them getting all grimy.

Humm it is an interesting question. I would think grease and soot would be the worst culprits on those subs. Especially since they were diesel fueled, and I would guess the stove in the galley burned diesel too. No wander those guys were so unhappy diesel flavored food too ??

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by kermit on Saturday, March 5, 2011 2:46 PM

Yumm.... diesel flavored cocoa puffs...Ick! LOL. Your post cracked me up RandyBig Smile

Been working on some stuff:

The past few days i have been working on completing the sidewall:

Assembling the tower:

With visible command station and periscope:

And working on the torpedo room: (everything you see has been dirtied up with a wash except for the T2 torpedoes, they were maintained and taken good care of all the time since they were very delicate and needed round the clock care...

The type XXI had a hydraulic reloading system for it's torpedoes, enabling the crew to reload all six tubes in just over ten minutes. Crews on the workhorse type VII's would have a hard time doing that reloading just one of the tubes.

Next up will be the officers quarters and batteries... More coming soon!Wink

Richard

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 5, 2011 7:24 PM

Started building....just some boring build pic's for now...(sorry for the shadows)

 

 

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, March 5, 2011 7:24 PM

Well I can't believe its been so long since I got an update done, but alas I'm making progress.

Best get on with the pics.

The seats installed.

The rudders at an early stage,

Weathering started,

And I'm calling them done at this stage,

The running gear

Oil paint used to blend all the chipping together,

In and around the props,

I started this out with a mushy mix of MIG pigments and acrylic paint stippled onto the surface.

When dry I continually washed the areas with Tamiya flat earth diluted down with alachol and water until theh paint was less than 10% of the mix.

This took several nights to achieve.

I was out last friday nightwith a few fellow modellers and one of my friends suggested adding some slime and a kind of moss effect, I completely dismissed this until I seen Rob's slimed up turret over on missing lynx.

This is only the start but I intend to work on this.

It's great to see so much progress being made. If you think I'm not looking I do check in every day on my phone, I pay extra for mobile broadband on my mobile package.

Again thanks for dropping in.

Terry.

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Saturday, March 5, 2011 8:15 PM

wow. that's some impressive rusting terry. Can you go into more detail as to how you achieved that look?  I've never rusted anything before so I have no idea how to do that.

 

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, March 5, 2011 8:39 PM

Thanks Owl.

Scroll a bit down the page and I have posted a small toot about achieveing the chipping.

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Terry.

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Posted by Julez72 on Saturday, March 5, 2011 9:07 PM

DittoLooks awesome Terry YesYesYes

I have to apologise for my lack of pics, i should have had the 190 done by now...Was attaching the canopy and ended up getting a big fingerprint in CA glue all over the clear partBang HeadI put it down in disgust for a week or so and played around with another build...I'll remask the spare bubble canopy during the week and finish it off.....

 

 

 

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, March 5, 2011 9:10 PM

Heart breaking news there Julez, nasty.

Terry.

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Posted by daddy1 on Thursday, March 10, 2011 8:34 PM

 Terry- I must say that is impressive rust work and the slimy moss is a great touch. Bow Down

 Richard- The sub looks great . I also agree with the griminess. Even our US subs were often referred to as "pig boats" because of the dirt and smell . One thing I've always noticed , in combat situations cleanliness took a back seat to operational. 

  Have had a hard time finding my modeling Zen so far this year , seems things keep getting in the way. I do keep track of goings on and my hats off to everyone on some fine work. 

I have been making progress on my Lightning and currently begining to lay on the paint. Here's some pics.

First up , some nice and grubby wheel wells. I imaginr they got pretty filthy with the crude conditions at Henderson field or just about any of the other island airstrips in the South Pacific.

Weathering done with a sludge wash of red,blue, green, yellow, and black acrylic craft paint . Makes for a very dirty looking sort of black brown with a hint of grimy maroon. Followed by a dusting of various earth and sand tone pastels and pigments.

 

 

It's hard to tell from this pic, but I 'faded' the cockpit coming with some light olive and brown pastels after a wash with the same colors.

After a prewash of flat black, she's ready for paint .

These next pics show the effect I'm going for on the panel lines . Have a couple practice boards with various pastels, washes and paint mixes to get a handle on how the different colors influence the base OD/neutral gray. 

 I like to weather in layers for more depth. Dirt and wear usually don't    happen all at once , but over time and  replicating the faded finish seen in these pics will be a real challenge 

 

 BTW Doogs - I may still do Miss Virginia , but more than likely the kit Oriole markings will be my time saver and still be a Guadalcanal bird. As long as it's got some meatballs pasted on the nose .

 Howard 

 

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Posted by oddmanrush on Friday, March 11, 2011 10:32 AM

Terry, simply awesome work there! All the different tones and textures of rust is very impressive. The moss of course is a nice touch as well! It'll be great to see when it's finished!

Howard, the P-38 looks like its coming along nicely.

As for me, the 190 is still in the same state that it was in previously. I'm on the fence about what my next step will be...this wasn't well planned so I'm not sure how to get the faded Crosses on the wings and fuselage. I was thinking of completely sinking it in a lake or something, which would certainly be extreme, something like this:

Of course, I still have the Stuka to work on, which would be a bit more conventional as far as weathering goes. I just need to make up my mind about the 190...

Jon

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Posted by Julez72 on Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:18 AM

Howard, excellent work on the P-38, very coolYes

Oddman, man now thats a cool pic, would love to be able to give advice on your build but i don't have a clue how to acheive that...GoodluckToast

 

 

 

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Posted by daddy1 on Sunday, March 13, 2011 8:04 AM

oddmanrush

 

As for me, the 190 is still in the same state that it was in previously. I'm on the fence about what my next step will be...this wasn't well planned so I'm not sure how to get the faded Crosses on the wings and fuselage. I was thinking of completely sinking it in a lake or something, 

 That would make for an awesome diorama/vignette . I think the crosses in the photo look more sediment covered than faded. The depth under water actually helped preserve the aircraft fairly well. 

You could try some pastels/pigments applied with a water moistened brush to get the build up of muck and sediment. Also a final mist of Future would give that just out of the water look .

Howard  

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Posted by oddmanrush on Sunday, March 13, 2011 1:21 PM

Howard, you make a good point there. The crosses and even the swaztika on the tail are still visible and appear to be in good shape. I like your idea of making the picture into a vignette. I could scratch build the straps and such....ugh, now I'm gonna have to think about what I want to do...I think I'll put it aside for now and finish up the Stuka for this GB then return to the 190 when I've made up my mind.

Jon

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Posted by ruddratt on Monday, March 14, 2011 9:56 AM

Howard, the P-38 is progressing nicely! Yes Looking forward to seeing how all those weathering techniques pan out. Never even heard of a pre-wash before.

 

The upper wing for the Pfalz is complete. In the next few days, the fun starts - the way I figure it, there's about 64 more turnbuckles that need to be cut from the brass tubing and then the rigging can start to go in.

Mike

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Posted by daddy1 on Monday, March 14, 2011 10:19 PM

 The pre wash works pretty well , a bit more subtle than pre shading but still accents panels nicely and the wash will also show scratches and other defects like a primer would . I personally still need to refine my skills of top coating without covering up too much pre shade or wash. I see where I should stop, but often still give one more pass with the airbrush. 

 I'll get the lines and other shading back with weathering.

 Speaking of which, I was all set to start the process last night after touching up the camo demarcation lines . Was almost done with the touch up when it slipped out of my hand and hit nose first on the floorBang Head.

 I was lucky it broke along the seam without any chunks of filler breaking away. Made for a simple re glue , clean up, touch up. Just set me back a day. 

 

 

Another sample sheet to check how various washes and pigments are going to look. 

Not a bad recoveryWhistling. The hand brush touch up OD  came out a little darker than the airbrushed OD. A few light passes with 1000 grit  blended fairly well and any variation left will even out with weathering.

 Time to start getting it faded and dirty.

 Howard

 

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Posted by Julez72 on Monday, March 14, 2011 11:18 PM

Howard, your P-38 is looking very nice, great save on the nose coneYes

 

 

 

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:49 AM

hey, Doogs! Ive finally decided on a kit. (It took a while, I know!)  I've decided to beat up Airfix's offering of a Spitfire Mk. IX, in 1/72 scale.

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:16 AM

Terry - what can I say but Indifferent - your technique is simply stunning!

Howard - the P-38's looking great! Nice recovery from that sneak attack by the forces of gravity! 

Jon - I think the sunken 190 would be an awesome challenge! I'm contemplating doing something similar with that F4U birdcage they pulled out of Lake Michigan not too long ago.

On the subject of wrecks (and Corsairs) this would be a fun project to tackle!

ruddratt - 64...my eyes hurt just thinking about it! And I saw that you're tackling the Hisso next? Talk about a rigging monster! If I follow up the Pup with anything, it's going to be a Junkers J.1 I think...

Owl - got you down for the Mk.IX! Looking forward to it! This going to be straight RAF, or something a bit more exotic?

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:04 AM

the Spitfire was a second hand kit that was missing decals and the canopy, but it gave me a chance to use up some of my spare stuff I have lying around. It will have American markings with full invasion stripes.

 

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