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Weathering GB - 2/1/2011 - 1/31/2012

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  • From: Zephyrhills,FL
Posted by daddy1 on Sunday, March 13, 2011 8:04 AM

oddmanrush

 

As for me, the 190 is still in the same state that it was in previously. I'm on the fence about what my next step will be...this wasn't well planned so I'm not sure how to get the faded Crosses on the wings and fuselage. I was thinking of completely sinking it in a lake or something, 

 That would make for an awesome diorama/vignette . I think the crosses in the photo look more sediment covered than faded. The depth under water actually helped preserve the aircraft fairly well. 

You could try some pastels/pigments applied with a water moistened brush to get the build up of muck and sediment. Also a final mist of Future would give that just out of the water look .

Howard  

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Posted by Julez72 on Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:18 AM

Howard, excellent work on the P-38, very coolYes

Oddman, man now thats a cool pic, would love to be able to give advice on your build but i don't have a clue how to acheive that...GoodluckToast

 

 

 

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  • From: New Jersey
Posted by oddmanrush on Friday, March 11, 2011 10:32 AM

Terry, simply awesome work there! All the different tones and textures of rust is very impressive. The moss of course is a nice touch as well! It'll be great to see when it's finished!

Howard, the P-38 looks like its coming along nicely.

As for me, the 190 is still in the same state that it was in previously. I'm on the fence about what my next step will be...this wasn't well planned so I'm not sure how to get the faded Crosses on the wings and fuselage. I was thinking of completely sinking it in a lake or something, which would certainly be extreme, something like this:

Of course, I still have the Stuka to work on, which would be a bit more conventional as far as weathering goes. I just need to make up my mind about the 190...

Jon

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  • From: Zephyrhills,FL
Posted by daddy1 on Thursday, March 10, 2011 8:34 PM

 Terry- I must say that is impressive rust work and the slimy moss is a great touch. Bow Down

 Richard- The sub looks great . I also agree with the griminess. Even our US subs were often referred to as "pig boats" because of the dirt and smell . One thing I've always noticed , in combat situations cleanliness took a back seat to operational. 

  Have had a hard time finding my modeling Zen so far this year , seems things keep getting in the way. I do keep track of goings on and my hats off to everyone on some fine work. 

I have been making progress on my Lightning and currently begining to lay on the paint. Here's some pics.

First up , some nice and grubby wheel wells. I imaginr they got pretty filthy with the crude conditions at Henderson field or just about any of the other island airstrips in the South Pacific.

Weathering done with a sludge wash of red,blue, green, yellow, and black acrylic craft paint . Makes for a very dirty looking sort of black brown with a hint of grimy maroon. Followed by a dusting of various earth and sand tone pastels and pigments.

 

 

It's hard to tell from this pic, but I 'faded' the cockpit coming with some light olive and brown pastels after a wash with the same colors.

After a prewash of flat black, she's ready for paint .

These next pics show the effect I'm going for on the panel lines . Have a couple practice boards with various pastels, washes and paint mixes to get a handle on how the different colors influence the base OD/neutral gray. 

 I like to weather in layers for more depth. Dirt and wear usually don't    happen all at once , but over time and  replicating the faded finish seen in these pics will be a real challenge 

 

 BTW Doogs - I may still do Miss Virginia , but more than likely the kit Oriole markings will be my time saver and still be a Guadalcanal bird. As long as it's got some meatballs pasted on the nose .

 Howard 

 

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  • From: Dublin Rep Of Ireland
Posted by terry35 on Saturday, March 5, 2011 9:10 PM

Heart breaking news there Julez, nasty.

Terry.

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  • From: Brisbane
Posted by Julez72 on Saturday, March 5, 2011 9:07 PM

DittoLooks awesome Terry YesYesYes

I have to apologise for my lack of pics, i should have had the 190 done by now...Was attaching the canopy and ended up getting a big fingerprint in CA glue all over the clear partBang HeadI put it down in disgust for a week or so and played around with another build...I'll remask the spare bubble canopy during the week and finish it off.....

 

 

 

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, March 5, 2011 8:39 PM

Thanks Owl.

Scroll a bit down the page and I have posted a small toot about achieveing the chipping.

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Terry.

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Posted by CallSignOWL on Saturday, March 5, 2011 8:15 PM

wow. that's some impressive rusting terry. Can you go into more detail as to how you achieved that look?  I've never rusted anything before so I have no idea how to do that.

 

OWL

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, March 5, 2011 7:24 PM

Well I can't believe its been so long since I got an update done, but alas I'm making progress.

Best get on with the pics.

The seats installed.

The rudders at an early stage,

Weathering started,

And I'm calling them done at this stage,

The running gear

Oil paint used to blend all the chipping together,

In and around the props,

I started this out with a mushy mix of MIG pigments and acrylic paint stippled onto the surface.

When dry I continually washed the areas with Tamiya flat earth diluted down with alachol and water until theh paint was less than 10% of the mix.

This took several nights to achieve.

I was out last friday nightwith a few fellow modellers and one of my friends suggested adding some slime and a kind of moss effect, I completely dismissed this until I seen Rob's slimed up turret over on missing lynx.

This is only the start but I intend to work on this.

It's great to see so much progress being made. If you think I'm not looking I do check in every day on my phone, I pay extra for mobile broadband on my mobile package.

Again thanks for dropping in.

Terry.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 5, 2011 7:24 PM

Started building....just some boring build pic's for now...(sorry for the shadows)

 

 

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  • From: Netherlands
Posted by kermit on Saturday, March 5, 2011 2:46 PM

Yumm.... diesel flavored cocoa puffs...Ick! LOL. Your post cracked me up RandyBig Smile

Been working on some stuff:

The past few days i have been working on completing the sidewall:

Assembling the tower:

With visible command station and periscope:

And working on the torpedo room: (everything you see has been dirtied up with a wash except for the T2 torpedoes, they were maintained and taken good care of all the time since they were very delicate and needed round the clock care...

The type XXI had a hydraulic reloading system for it's torpedoes, enabling the crew to reload all six tubes in just over ten minutes. Crews on the workhorse type VII's would have a hard time doing that reloading just one of the tubes.

Next up will be the officers quarters and batteries... More coming soon!Wink

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, March 4, 2011 12:47 AM

DoogsATX

 kermit:

Hmmm....Hmm Your post made me think Doogs,... Were these subs really dirty at any time..?

 It is a good question to ask and to be honest i am not sure. The U-boat crews as i have it in my head (based mostly on books that i read and movies i've seen like Das Boot) were, especially late in the war not that zealous and morale was lacking.....(not that hard to imagine with like a 75% mortality rate)  so i figured the boats, under certain uboat captains, were concentrating on survival and not cleaning.

With that in mind i just started this XXI boat dirtying up the heck out of it LOL. Call it uneducated guesswork if you will....

Richard

 

I'd imagine they'd have to get dirty...between small leaks of oil, water, etc, a small enclosed cylinder full of crewmen, especially during the stresses of a mission, of dodging subhunters and depth charges...I could totally see them getting all grimy.

Humm it is an interesting question. I would think grease and soot would be the worst culprits on those subs. Especially since they were diesel fueled, and I would guess the stove in the galley burned diesel too. No wander those guys were so unhappy diesel flavored food too ??

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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  • From: Smithers, BC, Canada
Posted by ruddratt on Thursday, March 3, 2011 10:20 PM

OK fellas, we've got another update on the Pfalz. Got the prop, spinner, windscreen, some engine plumbing, and the guns assembled, painted, and attached. I'm OK with the results except for the prop - needs to be weathered up just a bit. Thing about these birds is that they could go through a lot of props in their service life so it wasn't unusual to see fairly pristine props on a weather-beaten airframe.

All that remains now is finishing the upper wing, getting it mounted, and rigging it up. It's a bit time consuming, so my next update may be a while. Anyway, enjoy the pics!

 

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, March 3, 2011 11:13 AM

kermit

Hmmm....Hmm Your post made me think Doogs,... Were these subs really dirty at any time..?

 It is a good question to ask and to be honest i am not sure. The U-boat crews as i have it in my head (based mostly on books that i read and movies i've seen like Das Boot) were, especially late in the war not that zealous and morale was lacking.....(not that hard to imagine with like a 75% mortality rate)  so i figured the boats, under certain uboat captains, were concentrating on survival and not cleaning.

With that in mind i just started this XXI boat dirtying up the heck out of it LOL. Call it uneducated guesswork if you will....

Richard

I'd imagine they'd have to get dirty...between small leaks of oil, water, etc, a small enclosed cylinder full of crewmen, especially during the stresses of a mission, of dodging subhunters and depth charges...I could totally see them getting all grimy.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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  • From: Netherlands
Posted by kermit on Thursday, March 3, 2011 11:10 AM

Hmmm....Hmm Your post made me think Doogs,... Were these subs really dirty at any time..?

 It is a good question to ask and to be honest i am not sure. The U-boat crews as i have it in my head (based mostly on books that i read and movies i've seen like Das Boot) were, especially late in the war not that zealous and morale was lacking.....(not that hard to imagine with like a 75% mortality rate)  so i figured the boats, under certain uboat captains, were concentrating on survival and not cleaning.

With that in mind i just started this XXI boat dirtying up the heck out of it LOL. Call it uneducated guesswork if you will....

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, March 3, 2011 7:40 AM

Lookin' good Richard! I can imagine those subs getting pretty ragged, even with typical naval "clean everything all the time" discipline!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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  • From: Netherlands
Posted by kermit on Wednesday, March 2, 2011 11:17 AM

Hey guys,

As i announced i will start off with Revell of Germany's Type XXI sub with visible interior. It's a crossover with the ASW2 GB here on FSM. Not much done apart from spraying the inside of the hull halves light grey, painting some dials and tubes that are molded on and adding a black wash as to simulate dirt...:

More to follow soon.

Richard

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Sir Winston Churchill

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Posted by jbrady on Tuesday, March 1, 2011 9:24 AM

Pepper: Thanks I'll send you my mailing address in an e-mail. I thought I knew how to PM group members... but apparently I don't. As for the sm,ilies I don't use them but I think you just click on the icon and choose which one you want.Big Smile

   

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Posted by pepper kay on Tuesday, March 1, 2011 7:51 AM

jbrady

Pepper: Thanks, the ones I need are the 60 degree letters and numbers both black and white. PM me with the details.

LHS didn't have either white or black but said they could order for me ... told them to go ahead and  should be here by the weekend ... $5.00 per each shee (2 sheets)t ...

If this won't work for you, I'll use 'em :-) ...

Give me a shout - pepperkay@aol.com and let me know ...

As an aside, I can't get the Smilies to work - any ideas ? ... not the most important thing in the world, but ... also, how does one PM a GB member ? ...

Thanks,

pepper

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Posted by jbrady on Monday, February 28, 2011 7:14 PM

Casper that oil thingy looks great Can't wait to see the finished product.

This is as far as I can go until I get the decals I need. I'll do some pre-shading with a darker grey on the underside but preshading the top will be a waste of time. I'll post shade, fade and highlight the center section of the fulelage as I go along.

I kinda like the looks of the Hellcat in the early war camo colors. May have to do Hamilton McWhorter's Cat in those colors at some point.

Now on to something totally different... Beaufighter Mark VI in 1940 night camo.

   

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Posted by Casper the Chihuahua on Sunday, February 27, 2011 11:18 PM

Took a fair bit of work to get to this stage

A lot of resin residue to clean off and a slightly complicated build, instructions were not entirely complete so had to work from the artwork for some of it.

But in the end came together, painted and weathered up quit nicely.

May have to add some lighter shades to the tyres.

Cheers

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Just deployed: F6F-5N Hellcat Nightfighter 1/48 Eduard

Up next: A6-E Intruder 1/48 Revell

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  • From: Smithers, BC, Canada
Posted by ruddratt on Sunday, February 27, 2011 10:46 PM

Many thanks, fellas! Yes This is (and I hate to sound redundant, but I still feel this way) an AWESOME idea for a GB. I've learned a ton from you guys.

Jules, the triplane is one kit missing from my stash, but I've heard nothing but good things about it, and like you said, very little rigging, so it's a great way to cut one's teeth on these WWI birds! Yes I'll also keep my eyes open for any info on Little's Camel.

Doogs, I know what you're capable of, and I am dying to see your work on the 'pup (ain't you done with that mossie yet?! Wink ). Not sure what WnW has coming down the pipe, but a S.P.A.D. XIII would be flippin' amazing! I could see myself getting two of 'em easily!

As an aside, I need to confess I'm still honing my photographic skills. The pics I've seen you guys post are what I hope to achieve in quality, but have not quite hit on the right combo just yet.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by jbrady on Sunday, February 27, 2011 9:07 PM

Pepper: Thanks, the ones I need are the 60 degree letters and numbers both black and white. PM me with the details.

   

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Posted by DoogsATX on Sunday, February 27, 2011 8:28 PM

ruddratt - WOW! I need to go back and re-read your weathering plan for the ribs, that looks fantastic! 

I cannot wait to get cracking on my Sopwith Pup...I'm intimidated by it, but think it'll be a great challenge/learning experience! Now if they'd just make a Camel and a Spad XIII. I'd love to do the latter up in Rickenbacker's markings:

 

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by pepper kay on Sunday, February 27, 2011 8:07 PM

jbrady

. Does anyone know if there are decals sheets with generic US Navy marking from WWII?

Yes, there are and at my LHS  besides ... I've got to run by there tomorrow and will look to see that  they still have them ... you're interested in the letters and numbers ? ... and your scale is 1/48 ? ...

If I see them and they're  not been sold, which I doubt - I'll grab 'em and mail them off right away ...

The stripes and triangles/diamonds/etc. can all be cut from a white decal sheet ... Microsoft makes that too ...

pepper

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Posted by Julez72 on Sunday, February 27, 2011 7:19 PM

Ruddrat, wow thats awesome man, i like the way the rib tape just shows through the red paint...very niceYes I'll be watching very closely how you guys work the turnbuckles for future reference, i'm doing an Eduard 1/48 Dr1 shortly as an introduction into WW1 aircraft because of it's lack of rigging...I'm hopeing Wingnut Wings will eventually release a 1/32 Sopwith Camel as i'd like to do R A Little's mount from 201sqd, provided i can find a photo or something....ANYTHING to give me a clue what it looked like, there are plenty of references for his Triplane but nothing on the Camel yet............

I Should have some finished 190 pics up within the next 24 or soYes

 

 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Sunday, February 27, 2011 3:51 PM

Looking good, fellas! Nice to see this GB moving right along! This has been an awesome place to hang out!

Rich, welcome aboard!! Looking forward to seeing that sub!

Casper, that bomb cart is aces! I'm sure the oil cart will be just as awesome-looking!

Jules, can't wait to see more pics of your 190. Sounds like you're making excellent progress!

jb, your 'cat is progressing nicely. Sure to be another stunner!

Steve, that 'cat of yours is simply superb! I love all of different weathering techniques you incorporated into the build. Really top-notch work!

 

I'm happy to report major progress on the Pfalz. All that remains is the prop/spinner, the windscreen, the guns, the upper wing decaling, and of course the rigging and all those turnbuckles. The method I used for weathering the lozenge worked out fine - I'm quite pleased with the result. Anyway, this is where she stands so far, but there's still a ways to go.

 

 

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by jbrady on Saturday, February 26, 2011 6:27 PM

terry35

J.Brady where on this earth do you get all the time to produce all this wonderful work.

Personally I have got more work done but l am not happy with my own results to date and I am re-examining my efforts to date and trying to see if I can get the results I desired from the outset of the build.

I hope to get posting again soon.

Terry.

Sleep is over rated... coffee and cigarettes.

   

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, February 26, 2011 5:41 PM

Steve, the Hellcat is both beautiful and stunning, as I look at the aircraft in this GB I feel jealous of all the talent.

J.Brady where on this earth do you get all the time to produce all this wonderful work.

Doogs, the bomb trolley is  a little beauty, the trailer looks like it has potential.

Personally I have got more work done but l am not happy with my own results to date and I am re-examining my efforts to date and trying to see if I can get the results I desired from the outset of the build.

I hope to get posting again soon.

Terry.

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Posted by jbrady on Saturday, February 26, 2011 4:13 PM

Steve thats looking great. From what I understand drybrushing was all the rage in an earlier age of modeling. Seeing what you've done with the Hellcat I can see why. Shows that there is more than one way to do things right. Great work.

   

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